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November 28, 2013 5:34:53 PM

Hi,

I have used this site 3 other times over the years to build a non-gaming pc for family and now i have a friend who wants to build a non-gaming pc for his wife. He has bought two other computers in the past from the big manufacturers and he is just not satisfied any more with those......so i told him we could build one together.

i was thinking i would like to have a SSD so the computer boots up fast, which is one of the issues they have currently with their computer.

THey already have a monitor so dont need one of those. Would need a wireless card as they dont have a hard wire connection. Would probably install windows 7 unless you guys suggest other wise.

Any suggestions?

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November 28, 2013 7:47:59 PM

Price? Country?
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November 29, 2013 3:12:06 AM

hi , i live in USA and i am hoping to spend around 300 to 450 dolllars......if possible
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November 29, 2013 7:52:35 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3330 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 530 Series 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $510.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-29 22:52 EST-0500)
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November 29, 2013 7:52:36 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3330 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 530 Series 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $510.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-29 22:52 EST-0500)
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November 30, 2013 4:56:54 AM

well......$510.00 is slightly more than i had thougth about spending

any other soln?
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November 30, 2013 3:39:00 PM

mastrom101 , that pcparticker is really really cool!!!!!!!!

do you have any other suggestions?
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November 30, 2013 3:52:29 PM

the person i am building this for will use it to do things like check email, skype, surf the web.......does this help?
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November 30, 2013 5:47:47 PM

would this be a good cpu?

Athlon II X3 450
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November 30, 2013 8:46:55 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($21.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $401.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-30 23:46 EST-0500)

Cut back the performance and cost, switched to a hybrid drive.
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December 1, 2013 3:58:26 AM

hi, so the Athlon II X3 450
is not a good cpu to use? can you tell me why you picked the I3-4330?
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December 1, 2013 11:12:49 AM

Doing a little research i am deciding between these two

AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz

and

AMD FX-6300K

any suggestions and keep in mind this is for a home office computer......

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December 1, 2013 4:02:47 PM

any comments about these two cpu?
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December 1, 2013 6:31:00 PM

I wouldn't take the Athlon. The A10 has a GPU in it, while the FX offers more CPU power but no graphics.
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December 1, 2013 6:50:37 PM

ok...thanks.

what about the A10 or the FX. Again, this is just a home office type computer
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December 1, 2013 7:01:24 PM

is there another location on the forum that i should be asking these questions.......i dont want to bother anyone just trying to figure out what to do.......
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December 1, 2013 7:05:54 PM

welchs101 said:
is there another location on the forum that i should be asking these questions.......i dont want to bother anyone just trying to figure out what to do.......


Give me a sec I can help you :) 

And you're in the right place on the forums.
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December 1, 2013 7:16:21 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($11.25 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $399.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-01 22:15 EST-0500)

If it needs to be lower you can always drop down to a A6 or A8 or even an A4.
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December 2, 2013 3:41:14 AM

RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($11.25 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $399.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-01 22:15 EST-0500)

If it needs to be lower you can always drop down to a A6 or A8 or even an A4.







hi, thanks........

just curious.........again I am not an expert.............

Why did you pick the A10-5800K over the AMD FX-6300K?

My reasoning was that with the A10 I did not need to buy an additional graphics card ..........

also, would you get the SSD? Someone I talked with said even for "office" stuff that getting a SSD really helps out..........
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December 2, 2013 4:26:04 AM

welchs101 said:
RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($11.25 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $399.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-01 22:15 EST-0500)

If it needs to be lower you can always drop down to a A6 or A8 or even an A4.







hi, thanks........

just curious.........again I am not an expert.............

Why did you pick the A10-5800K over the AMD FX-6300K?

My reasoning was that with the A10 I did not need to buy an additional graphics card ..........

also, would you get the SSD? Someone I talked with said even for "office" stuff that getting a SSD really helps out..........


Well they're almost the same speed and with the A10 you don't need to buy a graphics card. Also the A10 is uses a lot less power. And yes I would get the SSD it reduces loading times and can make windows boot in around ten seconds.
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December 3, 2013 3:49:42 AM

did not get a chance to work on this yesterday but hoping to today..........boy the price jumped up a lot just since you sent this out.

I may have some additional questions like how you determined the mother board to use.........but thanks again
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December 3, 2013 1:57:13 PM

what about the A10-5800k.......
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December 3, 2013 2:09:32 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($26.98 @ PCM)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($11.25 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $384.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-03 17:09 EST-0500)

New build better for office use and is a bit cheaper ;) 
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December 4, 2013 3:46:20 AM

RazerZ.........can you tell me why you think its better. I really like the lower price but why is it better? Thanks a lot!
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December 4, 2013 3:06:24 PM

welchs101 said:
RazerZ.........can you tell me why you think its better. I really like the lower price but why is it better? Thanks a lot!


Answer is really simple, the CPU is faster and can multi task better.
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December 5, 2013 4:25:28 AM

but isnt the A10-6800k/A0-5800k run around 3.8GHz and have 6 cores or 4 cores.......and the I3 I 3.5GHz and only a dual core..........again I am not an expert...........

thanks again for answering my questions.......I really appreciate it.
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December 5, 2013 5:21:19 AM

another question for you.........prices seem to fluctuate a lot more than I remember........do you expect prices to come down again or keep going up........I know you probably don't know but just in case you had an opinion I thought I would ask.........
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December 5, 2013 3:48:41 PM

It doesn't matter how many cores the cpu has, it's the performance of the overall CPU that matters. The i3 is a bit faster than the a10 when it comes to uses such as office but it is worse for gaming because the A10 has a stronger integrated graphics card. Since you say your building a non gaming pc then the choice would go to the i3. If you do decide to game later you can always add a graphics card and it will beat the a10 in performance. Also regarding the prices they really do fluctuate a lot, so I would buy a major part of the component as soon as it goes on sale.
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December 10, 2013 4:30:50 AM

ok Razer, I have been watching the prices of things and well prices are good nowfor the A10-5800k......could you take a look at this and see if this an ok build........anyone else want to comment please feel free........again this is for an office computer build.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2i5rw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2i5rw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2i5rw/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 ATX FM2 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $320.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-10 07:29 EST-0500)
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December 10, 2013 4:37:38 PM

Looks great, my only suggestion would be to swap the case for a Corsair 200R/300R. It's a bit cheaper and arguably better.
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December 12, 2013 2:57:44 PM

Not really.
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December 16, 2013 3:57:27 AM

any other good cases that might be recommended......the 200R is one I would like to get but it just wont go back on sale it appears......

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December 16, 2013 4:06:13 AM

mastrom101 what was "not so good" about the cougar case I want to use this knowledge as I look for other cases but not sure I understand whats not so good about this case......
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December 16, 2013 4:17:23 AM

what about this one!?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Encore ENEWI-1XN42 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($8.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($22.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $355.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-16 07:15 EST-0500)
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December 16, 2013 4:20:50 AM

looks fine......but I have a question............

some cpu/mob combinations don't require one to purchase an additional graphics card........ie...they cpu/mob combination has "on-board" graphics..........how to tell if a certain cpu/mob has on board graphics or not..........

the reason I ask is ......one: I would like to know....... two: I did not think th e6300 had on board graphics and if it doesn't then don't I need to buy one for the build you mentioned?

thanks.
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December 16, 2013 4:28:02 AM

another question..........sorry for so many..........

is front side usb 3.0 a must-have? Ok , I know you don't "have to have it" but should I get it or just go with usb 2.0..........

again, this is an office compute rbuild...............thoughts?
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December 16, 2013 5:23:32 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lb4F
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lb4F/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lb4F/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $494.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-16 08:13 EST-0500)

Here you go, good sir. I think your friend's wife will be happy with this. It has one of the best SSD's out there, 8GB of RAM as 4 is no longer enough, a quad-core processor with built-in graphics is very suitable for more casual users, a motherboard that isn't the best but it gives you the features you need (i.e. hmdi port, sata 6gb's ports, and a pci express 16 slot in case your friend ever wants to buy a dedicated gpu), a reliable PSU from a well known brand and thus it isn't likely to backfire, a basic optical driver in case you might need it and finally, windows 8.1 because it's the latest and the start button is coming back!

Any question, just ask!
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December 16, 2013 7:34:15 AM

thanks............but was there something wrong with the build I originally put together...........please let me know what you tink........thanks
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December 16, 2013 1:30:21 PM

How about this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $338.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-16 16:30 EST-0500)

the i3 is faster than the a10
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December 17, 2013 4:19:43 AM

hi all,

If someone can provide insight into an answer for this question I would appreciate it.

Case: When selecting a case one option is the front side usb connections. There are plenty for sale with usb 2.0 and usb 3.0. I know usb 3.0 is "faster" but they tend to be more expensive as well.........I keep finding "cheaper" cases go on sale that have te usb 2.0 but not so much the usb 3.0.

Do I really need usb 3.0 if I am doing an office computer build?

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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December 17, 2013 6:39:03 AM

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hi all,

If someone can provide insight into an answer for this question I would appreciate it.

Case: When selecting a case one option is the front side usb connections. There are plenty for sale with usb 2.0 and usb 3.0. I know usb 3.0 is "faster" but they tend to be more expensive as well.........I keep finding "cheaper" cases go on sale that have te usb 2.0 but not so much the usb 3.0.

Do I really need usb 3.0 if I am doing an office computer build?

Thoughts? Suggestions?


No.........but if you buy a case nowadays for a fair price it'll come with usb 3.0 ports anyway.....yeah cheaper cases might have fewer 3.0 ports but so what?......you know

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December 19, 2013 7:00:22 AM

question:

I never have fully understood the memory spec stuff............

when I look up stuff I for PC3-1600, PC3-1866, and others. Of course there is this latency thing which I am sure is important somehow but don't really know.


I am just trying to determine if my office build would really know the difference between pc3-1600 and pc3-1866.........and what latency should I get .......again office build.

I want to get 8G of ram.............
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December 19, 2013 2:00:51 PM

welchs101 said:
question:

I never have fully understood the memory spec stuff............

when I look up stuff I for PC3-1600, PC3-1866, and others. Of course there is this latency thing which I am sure is important somehow but don't really know.


I am just trying to determine if my office build would really know the difference between pc3-1600 and pc3-1866.........and what latency should I get .......again office build.

I want to get 8G of ram.............


Doesn't matter just get the cheapest 8gb ram with 1600mhz and up
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December 20, 2013 4:12:37 AM

thanks Razr
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December 23, 2013 5:38:19 PM

got a question about the mother board.

the board i originally selected............"MSI FM2-A85XA-G43"

is this too much board for an office build?

also, what kinds of things should i look for in a MOB. Is this a good board or should i consider a different one? the cpu is the a10-5800k......hey how do i know this board will work with the cpu.........

thanks again!
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December 23, 2013 5:47:18 PM

another quick question.....i see for the a10-5800k........it says this cpu is a trinity..........do i need an fm2 trinity or will just an fm2 work?
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December 23, 2013 5:48:14 PM

also this msi board is not a micro-atx board......is this an issue?
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December 24, 2013 3:19:41 AM

can anyone help?
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December 24, 2013 4:25:35 AM

also if i want to put a SSD in my system will this board be good........
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