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First, I would like to get out of the way that I already have a mobo for this build, so I'm not considering outside of LGA 2011 even though this is primarily for gaming.

At first I was going to just get a 4820k since it's right around the same performance/price of a 4770k. But then I noticed that the older generation 6 core (3930k) was marked down a good chunk.

I'll be running a dual monitor setup with a GTX 780, and I plan to have two seperate games running at once, on a fairly regular basis.

Now I know most people say an i7 is overkill for gaming anyway, but then I got to thinking that maybe with two games running at once (and some other light background tasks) maybe a 6 core could make a difference? For an actual example, I might want to run BF4 on one screen with WoW in the other, or maybe Civ 5.


If so, do you think being the previous generation is too much of a negative? Only real difference I see is that the single core performance is lower and the RAM speed is 1600 vs 1866. I just don't really know if that will matter for what I'll be doing so I figured I'd ask for some input! :D

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I read it perfectly clear... but that should be an indication of how much of a bad decision the 2011 socket is.

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WHY are you going 2011, its just a waste.

The 3930K is the faster CPU. But not in gaming. The 4770K/4670K are faster at stock than BOTH those 2011 CPUs and the platform is cheaper too.

Do you REALLY want to pay 250$ plus for decent 2011 board while the 4770K + 150$ board can give you BETTER results.


Don't be a fool. Just get the 1150 socket CPUs. It frees up A LOT more cash for the GPU, which is what REALLY matter when gaming.

Just for the record, there is almost no benefit from the previous 2011 gen to the current one.

 
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Was the first sentence really not clear enough? =/ I figured if I put it at the top maybe people would read it instead of launching straight into "ZOMGzz WHY WOULD YOU EVER BUY 2011!?!? WAAA"

Guess not ^_^

Not going to buy another mobo when I can just use the one sitting right here and potentially spend that part of the budget on a better CPU.
 
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I read it perfectly clear... but that should be an indication of how much of a bad decision the 2011 socket is.

 
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running 2 games at 1s is unlikely unless there very basic games. the problem is games tend to take exclusive control of the gfx and will often disable 2nd monitor output. so while 1 game is running the other will likely be minimized to the background. theres also the problem of received input even if the games work they will take there input from the mouse and keyboard press the a key to move left and both games would move left unless you can select keyboard 1 and keyboard 2 (or controller 1 or 2) and most games dont have this option.
 
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"Do you REALLY want to pay 250$ plus for decent 2011 board while the 4770K + 150$ board can give you BETTER results."

If you read it perfectly clear, why would you suggest I need to buy a mobo? I said I already had it. If you must know, a friend changed direction on their project and I ended up with a free board. So I'm going to use it. So yeah. Enough of you.

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Hexit, there's a program called Actual Multiple Monitors that solves that problem, and the 3GB 780 should handle multiple games alright if I don't try and overdo the settings. I'm just wondering if there would be a performance gain on the CPU side under those conditions. Thanks :)
 
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doesnt solve the multiple inputs though mate. watching a video on 1 screen and a game on another is a typical use for that app but like i said if the games dont support specific inputs from keyboard/controler 1 and 2 or mouse 1 and 2 then its a pointless exercise. i gave it a shot earlier today. with ac3 and farcray 3. farcry 3 crashed as soon as i ran ac3. ac3 disabled the screen and minimized fc3, as soon as i maximized it both crashed.
but hey if you can manage to get it to work then please make a tutorial as i have always wanted to have this kind of ability on my system as i 2 have 2 screens.
 
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I talked to my friend today and confirmed that my plan will work. Actual Multiple Monitors allows you to disable the OS settings that you mentioned. My friend was able to run two full screen games at once side by side. You simply move the mouse to whichever game you want to input to and click once to set it as the front program and then all input goes to that game and the other waits. Only thing you have to watch for is some games have settings within the game that are separate from the OS stuff that will also stop you from moving the mouse outside the screen. It's usually easy to disable in game though.

That's exactly what I need it to do. I'm not trying to have two people playing games at once with separate input. I simply want to be able to have a game of Civ5 or something like that going on in one screen while I play WoW or a FPS. During downtime I can take a turn on Civ.
 
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clock for clock the 4770k will never ever be as good as a 3930k in gaming, its plainly mathematically impossible... not to mention probably 90% of every 3930k ever made is capable of 4.8ghz and do it at a lower temp than the majority of 4770k's@4.4ghz. if you already have the mobo... just get the $450 3930k... it will still be faster than the 5670k/5770k when they come out.... sandy bridge was the best by far... low temps.... best overclocks.
 
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