Which CPU should I choose for battlefield 4

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One thing you should know, I'm building a gaming desktop.
I am looking at this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

I am going to mainly use this computer for bf4, I would like to keep it at about 70 fps on ultra. My GPU is the r9 280x. For the 64 man servers, I would like to be around 60 fps on ultra. If you know of one, what is a recommended RAM and motherboard? My CPU budget is no more than $400 (preferably lower). Thanks
 
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Hello,
That CPU is perfect for playing battlefield 4 multiplayer, you might also take a look at these Multiplayer benchmarks
www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/4/ ( Ultra-HD )
www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/8/ (Full-HD)
so with your FX 8350, You are going to need 8gb of ram and a mobo if you don't have them
RAM: CORSAI 8GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233309
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851 or if you want to keep down your expenses go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873
The first mobo is better if you plan to overclock other wise go with the second one,
Don't forget to close the post, if you feel you don't have any other questions
 
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For $10 more you can get a I5 4670K for gaming i'd recommend that over a FX-8350. One because it can overclock typically 4.5-5.0Ghz which would put it miles ahead of the FX-8350 in terms of gaming performance. Two because it is more efficient and better at single tasks, and not far off in multitasking which would be unoticeable
 
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An FX 9590 Clocks in 5GHz
 
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Whats wrong with the FX9590 ?
 
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Here are the rest of the parts
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAJ0ZGK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOUNSTZSIH5KN

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008S8WA18/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CRSM4I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0092ML0MY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Is there anything I should change? And I will be going with the fx
 
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Sangeet Khatri

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Well.. if you are looking at any 70 FPS at Ultra then I suggest that you better up your GPU to a Nvidia 780 or wait for the R9-290 with custom coolers to launch.

The 280x would simply not give you Ultra at 70 FPS. It would be like 50 FPS with everything upped.

As for the CPU, better go with the i5 or i7 from Intel. They have awesome Single Threaded performance which will get you through gaming pretty good. The i7 would perform better than the i5 for BF4 because it is able to utilize the extra power of the extra threads more than 4.

I don't know what specifically your budget is, but looking at $400 budget for just CPU with $300 for GPU. I guess your overall budget is around $1200.

Hence for $1200, this is what you should get. This would be one of the best rig for now :

A word of advice : If possible, then try waiting for the AMD R9-290 with custom coolers by the Graphics Cards manufacturer. The 290 is a very good GPU for $100 cheaper than the 780. Despite being cheaper, it is faster than the 780. Hence if possible, then wait for it, otherwise the 780 is the best choice right now. But I would still suggest waiting for custom R9-290.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1061.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-29 09:51 EST-0500)

I hope this helps.
 
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you should change the motherboard that is not compatible with the fx cpu, get ASUS m5a99fx pro or m5a97
 
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Hello Sangeet, how are you? he wants to go with fx-8350 I presume
 
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I know he might be wanting to go with the 8350. But I would recommend the i5 4670k because of its better Single Threaded performance.

I am a big fan of AMD, but let's face it, when it comes to Single Threaded performance, the 8350 is still 15% behind, hence the reason for me recommending the i5 4670k.

Looking forward to the next gen CPU's from AMD, but as for now, I would suggest him to go to Intel path. They are currently better for gaming right now.
 
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And let's face it when it comes to multi-threaded i5-4670k is 15% behind, currently most games are multi-threaded gone are those days of single threaded processing or raw performance, as you can see in bf4 there is no difference between these cpus also you might take a look at these benchmarks
http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfighter-benchmarks/page6.html (MOH warfighter fx 8350 performs as well as i7-3960x)
http://www.techspot.com/review/601-black-ops-2-performance/page5.html (call of duty black ops 2 fx 8350 performs as well as i7-3960x)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Crysis-3-PC-235317/Tests/Crysis-3-Test-CPU-Benchmark-1056578/(crysis 3- fx 8350 better than i7 3770k and just below i7-3950x)
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1598/pg6/amd-fx-8350-processor-review-battlefield-3.html(BF3 )
www.hardwarepal.com/call-duty-ghosts-benchmark-cpu-gpu-performance/5/ (COD ghost Identical performance)
www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/4/ ( battlefield 4 ultra HD FX 8350 equal to i7-4770k)
www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/8/( battlefield4 full HD the same scenario)
www.hardwarepal.com/batman-arkham-origins-benchmark/8/ (batman Arkham Origins fx 8350= i7 4770k after AMD's catalyst release)
so where is the superiority in these current AAA tittles?
 
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I know the FX 9590 clocks in at 5Ghz it is nothing more than a overclocked FX8350. the FX 9590 at stock speeds requires a decent cooler and overclocking? well you can forget that 5.2Ghz wasn't stable with a Noctua U14S a very high end air cooler couldn't keep the temps down and stable. And for the premium OF $279 it just isn't worth it when a I5 4670K is $70 cheaper and can be overclocked to around 4.8Ghz if we push it would surpass the FX 9590 in gaming. If you want to compare a FX 9590 compare it to a I7 4770K which is $10 more expensive and when overclocked annihilates the AMD counterpart in everything.
 
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No you wont need to get fx 9590, fx 8350 will do the trick for you, fx 9590 is not worth it.
go with this rig
CPU: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-FX-Series-Edition/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
MOBO: http://www.amazon.com/M5A99FX-PRO-R2-0-990FX-Motherboard/dp/B008B6ONXK/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
PSU: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Watt-EPS%C2%A0-CX600/dp/B0092ML0OC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1385738160&sr=1-1&keywords=600W+CORSAIR
RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10/dp/B005T63BJM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385738230&sr=8-1&keywords=8gb+corsair+1600
HDD: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD1002FAEX-Internal-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385738267&sr=8-2&keywords=1tb+wd+black
CASE: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAJ0ZGK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOUNSTZSIH5KN
Total= 580$
 
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In that case I would go with the i7 4770k, which is the best of both world. It has got better Single Threaded as well as Multi Threaded performance because in last gen games, the Single Threaded performance is still an important factor.

Not that the 8350 is bad, but the 4770k is just a little better when it comes to little older games, so it would be little better on older games than the 8350.

But at the end of the day, it is OP's call. We are here to suggest. Let the OP decide what he is comfortable with.

If you are more comfortable with the 8350, then you should go with the build I suggested, just change the CPU with 8350 and change the Motherboard with Asus M5A99X Pro motherboard. That is a sweet motherboard.

Nvidia 780 will back anything up pretty well, so no worries either way.
 
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Anyways if you are going with the R9-290x, then just don't go with the reference model.

Wait for the models with Custom coolers to launch. The reference cooler is very inefficient. Very loud and not so much cool with temps around 90-95 degree Celsius. The GPU can bear the high temperatures, but it increases the heat build up in the case which is not a good thing.

Hence wait for the models with custom coolers from Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA and other manufacturers and then buy the R9-290x. It is a very good GPU. Better than both the 780 and R9-290. Go for it.

I just would not recommend the models with reference coolers. Wait for the best.
 
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Good choice your rig will be somehow like mine, but a little bit stronger I have fx 8350+r9-290 my uncle the same day my uncle bought i7-4770k+r9-280, we benched some games, It took us a week, it is worth looking at these benchmarks as well, we benched at 1080p
Metro last Light very high
fx 8350+r9-290= 68.5 fps
i7 4770k+ 280x= 51.8 fps
Bioshock Infinite ultra quality+ DDoF
fx 8350+r9-290= 91.6
i7 4770k+ 280x= 71.4
Battlefield 3 ultra quality+ 4xmsaa
fx 8350+r9-290= 87.4
i7 4770k+ 280x= 71.3
crysis 3 high+fxaa
fx 8350+r9-290= 78.4
i7 4770k+ 280x= 58.6
Bioshock Infinite ultra quality+DDoF
fx 8350+r9-290=91
i7 4770k+ 280x=73
Hitman Absoloution
fx 8350+r9-290=79.8
i7 4770k+ 280x=76.2
Grid 2 Maximum quality+ 4xmsaa
fx 8350+r9-290= 106.6
i7-4770k+280x= 91.7
Any how play hard mate
 
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Sorry but two different GPU's here is STOCK I7 4770K vs AMD FX-8350 @ 4.8Ghz Overclocked. I7 destroys it no contest AMD is good but intel is the better chip no matter what you throw back at me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qvsL8YRUCw

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=836

 
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we are talking about gaming the reason why I mentioned those two rigs is that they cost the same, my uncle's rig ended up a little bit more expensive than mine, but let's neglect that, my combination destroyed his like it or not, the thing is we have all budgets, 330$ cpu without a decent gpu is trash, the other day one of you team mates was mentioning the same thing that was his rig: i7-4770k, 32GB 2666 and r9-280x!!! it is sad, it is really sad, that advertising companies have managed to gull people to this extent to buy overkill CPU, overkill ram at overkill clock and a mediocre gpu!!! no wonder my fx8350+r9-290 and 8gb ram 1600 will run over his rig in any AAA tittle... my uncle's rig was a failure, and now doesn't matter how hard he will kick himself, he doesn't get the fps I get in games. and once more with games starting to become heavily threaded, like this one http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs
fx8350=i7 4770k or we might even see crysis 3 scenario fx8350>i7 3770k ... and you might ask yourself twice, why hasn't Ubisoft recommended any i5 for this game!?
 
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The i7 intent is not for gaming purposes it is for multi-threading hence the HT cores. If you want a gaming system the I5 4670K is the better chip and it costs $10 more than the FX8350. The I5 4670K performs same as i7 4770k in games. So if we talk about spending a lot of money its $10 more and at 3.4Ghz vs 4.0Ghz its faster and the fact in can be clocked at 4.5-4.8Ghz and the AMD FX8350 4.5-5Ghz makes the $10 more worth it as the intel will waste any AMD in gaming to date at 4.5Ghz in the majority of games. Unless you prove otherwise debate over. Intel is generations ahead of AMD and thats why it's priced higher.
 
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