Upgrade for dell xps 8100 i5 750 and gtx 260.

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Hello guys,
I'm currently upgrading my 2009 dell xps 8100. Factory specs is standard xps case, which is pretty nice looking but kinda cramped inside, I5 750 2.6ghz and 4ddr 3 1066 ram.500gb 7200 hdd and gtx 260 dell underclocked version. PSU is a feeble 350w that came with the system. It ran fine games up until 2012, this year games are starting to lag. I prefer games such as civ 5, xcom, starcraft, skyrim but do enjoy BAttle field and some FPS now and then. Recently upgraded ram to 12gb (had 2x2gb, ended up buying 2x4gb more) since I love multitasking and use photoshop lightroom alot. Starting to use premiere as well. I also recently bought a dell u2713hm 2560x1400 monitor for photo editing and found out that games at that resolution takes a lot more to process. I also recently added a samsung 840 250gb evo ssd. Now I was looking foward upgrading the GPU for something a little more powerfull, but mid ranged priced. Would like to run games at monitor native 1400p but not too crazy for ultra or 50>fps. was playing sleeping dogs at 30 fps and was a-ok. Would not like to buy a whole new system since I live in Brazil and stuff is way overpriced here. What would be a reasonable gpu upgrade for games and maybe adobe suite performance without giving up my cpu and mobo? I dont think I can overclock cpu in my currrent dell bios. I was aiming something at the price of r9 270x or gtx 760 but afraid of bottlenecking from my cpu/ old mobo.a gtx650 ti is pretty cheap here but may not be an awesome upgrade for gaming. I am aware i'll probably have to upgrade PSU as well, just wondered if I could keep this mobo+cpu for a couple more years. A gtx 760 here costs about 450-470 usd. Sucks, huh? Athough I do have some dough to spend, I'm much too frugal to overspend when not needed, specially considering the country I live in, where evertyhing is so overpriced. Thanks in advance!
 
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The good news is that Dell always put high quality (no name) PSus in their sytems back then. So, I imagine that 350W PSU has a faily strong +12V rail(s). That would be the first thing to check. You may be able to keep it if it is decent and has a PCIe 6 pin aux power cable. What is the +12V rail rating?

Here is a Graphics Card Performance Hierarchy Chart: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
It will allow you to get an kidea of where your existing gfx card stands and where you may want to move up to. Let me know what your PSU's +12V rating is.
 

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Thanks for replying. I could not post a pic but found an eBay link with the exact identical product:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-K159T-Studio-XPS-8000-8100-350-Watt-Power-Supply-Chicony-CPB09-001B-/171173347391?pt=PCA_UPS&hash=item27daba003f
Actually found a pic someone posted in another forum:
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=55963
I realize I'll probably have to upgrade psu, but wondered if I could keep the CPU and MB since I have original windows 7 eom bundled with it.
 

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yeah, that's the PSU I was thinking it was. About 30A of +12V capacity. But I'm amazed it is handling the GTX 260. That old gfx card draws as much power as a GTX 760! http://www.hwcompare.com/14889/geforce-gtx-260-216sp-55-nm-vs-geforce-gtx-760/
It must be right at its breaking point. Either that or you don't play very demanding games with it. That must have been a darn good PSU they put in there.

Here is a gaming CPU hierarchy chart you can use to see where your i5 falls. Still a good gaming CPU. Up there with the big Phenom IIs. I'd just upgrade the gfx card to something with more capability. You may even get by w/o a PSU upgrade if you don't get a card that needs 2 PCIe aux connectors.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
 

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That i5 should be fine with the gpus you mentioned but upgrading your psu to atleast a 600w would be best for those gpus mentioned.
The gtx 760 is more along the line of performance of a hd 7950. The r9 270x and gtx 660ti would be the same in performance so if your willing to spend the money for the 760 you will get more performance but the r9 270x and 660ti are still very nice cards and will play everything on high/ultra settings
 

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Is gtx 760 or r9 270x ok for 1440p gaming at high or ultra? I'm ok with 40fps. Gtx costs about 440-450usd here and found a reasonable priced r9 270x for 340usd. Is the difference of performance worth 100usd from 760? What about gtx 650 ti boost? I can get them for 300 usd here.
 

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I know. The GTX 260 I was comparing the GTX 760 to is the GTX 260 216SP 55 nm. That's the slowest 260 I'm aware of being made. http://www.hwcompare.com/14889/geforce-gtx-260-216sp-55-nm-vs-geforce-gtx-760/

As to your question about 40fps+ @ 1440p with those cards, I have to plead ignorance. I haven't moved on from 1080p yet. But if this chart is any indication, the drop in frame rate you get going from 1080p to 1440p looks to be about the same as the drop in frame rate we got from 720p to 1080p: http://www.audioholics.com/hdtv-formats/audioholics-hdmi-1-3-q-a/hdmi13resolution.gif/image_preview ...about 70% more pixels and texels to render per frame.

So my guess would be on graphically simple games, plenty of card. Of graphically demanding games like Crysis 3, not so much.
 

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The Gtx 760 would be a better card at 1440p but the r9 270x will play at that resolution but not as fluent as the 760 its really up to you and your budget are you willing to spend the extra $100. And the 650ti is below the 280x and wont be good for 1440p
 

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Yeah, I think I~m gonna go for the R9 270x since it's a bit cheaper and not much slower. I'm not crazy for fps and just want a gpu to hang on to my old computer for maybe two years. Thank you guys for your help!
 

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Sounds good mate best of luck and glad to help, Happy gaming :)
 
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