please help me homebuilt a Assembled Desktop PC 20000Rs (350 to 400 $)

Jiten_ihm

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I want to assemble a pc desktop in around 20000 INR
(exclude - computer case, monitor - as i have full HD led TV, mouse & key board)

Points to consider
1. low in power consumption
2. Hard Disk only 500gb
3. if possible no additional graphic card.

Usage -
1. extensive Net surfing specially You tube.
2. in future i will add a graphic card in it for gaming.

i will be buying components from either through online sellers or through lamington computer market in mumbai.


 
Solution
I can't vouch for prices and availability in Mumbai, but here's a nice idea of where to start.

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $374.92

If you want low power consumption, Intel is the way to go. Their integrated graphics aren't as good an AMD's, but it's more than enough for heavy web surfing and office productivity. This power supply will be enough for any mainstream GPU, up to a single 6-pin PCIe connector.


PCPartPicker part list

CPU: AMD A8-6500 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.24 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M EXTREME4+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $386.72

Here's an alternative AMD build. It will eat a little more power, but the integrated graphics means you can do some light gaming without a discrete GPU.

A side note on both builds, A 640GB or 750GB HDD is only a couple dollars more than your requested 500GB.
 

Jiten_ihm

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above configuration looks good but In India above parts total to above 500$, request you to kindly suggest something in bit lower price range.
as of know i would prefer system without graphic card for extensive internet surfing, with future option to add graphic card after 1 year to convert it to a more of gaming pc.
 

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if possible motherboard & processor should be future proof to support high end graphic card for gaming, as i will be adding a 5000 indian rs to 8000 indian rupees graphic card after 1 year.

total budget is around 20000 indian rupees excluding - computer case, Graphic card, monitor - as i have full HD led TV, mouse & key board.

Snapdeal.com
Flipkart.com
Niki Shop.com
hardwire.in

thanks in advance
 

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To be honest bro, if you want gaming build, there would be nothing at 20,000. I too live in India. Hardware here is more expensive than outside India.
For a good, future proof build, I would advise you to extend your budget to 30,000.
 

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You sounds right let it be 30000
Request you to suggest me whatever best you can suggest below 30000, better if you can touch 25000 (i will be buying from lamington market mumbai or from online shopping sites)
Points to consider
1. (25000 to 30000 budget should exclude - computer case, mouse, key board & monitor - as i have full HD led TV, Graphic card as i will be adding one in 5000 to 8000 budget category after 1 year)
2. (i am ok with 500gb hd as i will be using a additional external HD for my data storage, still if you suggest 1tb i willbe ok with 1 tb)
3. (Till one year it will be used for net surfing & after that for gaming once i will add graphic card to it)
4. ( if possible power consumption lowest during internet surfing)
 
I've been looking through hardware.in for some ideas on prices. So far I've been able to get something like this:

i3-3210 CPU - ₹7500
HDD Caviar Blue 500GB - ₹3950
G Skill 4GB Value 1333 RAM - ₹2950
SeaSonic ECO 400W PSU - ₹2650
Asus or LG DVD Drive - ₹1300
Total - ₹18350

What kind of external drive are you using: USB or eSATA? If you don't need eSATA on your mboard, then any H77 or B75 board from Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, or MSI should be good enough for you ( those look around ₹6000 or less. ) If you do want eSATA, you might need to pay around ₹7500 for that ( and you might to to get a Z77 chipset board. )

A similar build could be done around AMD A8-5600K, but that will likely use a little more electricity than the Intel.
 

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With this build, you could do slight gaming at medium-high settings, with games like fifa 13, crysis 3 etc.
For motherboard, go with the MSI FM2 A75MA E35. 4500RS.
Ram, RipjawsX 2x4GB 2133mhz: 6800RS
You can get any 8gb but it must be 2133mhz like this
http://www.flipkart.com/g-skill-ripjawsx-ddr3-8-gb-2-x-4-gb-pc-ram-f3-17000cl11d-8gbxl/p/itmd2rysxxtuvfhy?pid=RAMD2RYREMKEFFSR&otracker=from-search&srno=t_1&query=2x4gb+ram&ref=3f515315-2d71-4ef9-b414-87147bd110b4

For processor , has a good integrated graphic card too, AMD A10 5800K. 9,000RS.
This can play games like Battlefield 3, FIfa 13 without a graphic card as it has a good graphic card already inside it

Power Supply, Go with the VS 450 for 2000.

For hard drive, WD caviar Blue for 500GB. 3500.

For Optical Drive, I would recommend any one which is 1000.
All adds up to 24000. Its more then the RedJaron's build but you can do slight gaming with it and it will run those games like GTA IV,Hitman Absolution etc.
I would recommend you the CX 430 Power supply which is 1000RS more but its totally worth it. It has sleeved cables and its bronze certified. I would Highly recommend you to buy it.

Hope that helped.
Hope that helped.
 
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And also this will be a overclock so I would highly recommend you a cooler,
preferably the cooler master Hyper 212 Evo for 1500. It will make your pc stable cooler. As you are going to overclock the motherboard. I would highly recommend you to get that one.
 

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i was expecting processor without much inbuilt graphic power as after 1 year when i will add a graphic card the inbult graphic will be a waste i hope.
i hope i am looking for a better future proof mother board & a processor good in other things & good in supporting a external high end graphic card instead of having inbuilt graphic options. as graphic power issue will be taken care once a graphic card is added after a year..
 

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Ok go with the same parts,but make changes in the motherboard and processor.
For processor, go with the FX 6300 for 8000. And motherboard, MSI 970A G43 5500.
As it has Crossfire capability which can handle 2 graphic cards.Save money for now and buy r9 270x in future.
 

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finally it seems like i am done, great help from you, now one more thing, kindly clarify with all this input output options in my samsung UA32F5500AR led 1920 x 1080, i hope it can be connected as monitor/display.
Audio Out (Mini Jack) 1
Component In (Y/Pb/Pr) 1
Composite In (AV) 1 (Common Use for Component Y)
Digital Audio Out (Optical) 1
Ethernet (LAN) 1
HDMI 3
RF In (Terrestrial/Cable Input) 1
USB 2
 

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There's no way to connect it. Do you have a VGA slot on your TV? If yes,It can be done.If no,you have to get this mobo
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-usb3-motherboard/p/itmdegddysfvzuqm?pid=MBDDEG8JWXZJAP4F&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=am3&ref=ae0dbd92-96ec-4b32-b3f7-474740d95c21

but its not a future proof board as it has no crossfire support.
I would recommend you the MSI 970A G43(the previous one)
and get this cheap ass graphic card temporarily which will help you to connect your pc to your tv

http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-synergy-210-tc1g-ddr3-512-mb-graphics-card/p/itmdpxrfhvczwmtz?pid=GRCDPXQRGVFXCDKU&otracker=from-search&srno=t_8&query=at+graphic+card&ref=5acf7d9f-10e4-4a9b-9d1c-ad4139b12493
 

Jiten_ihm

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it seems like it requires real brainstorming to assemble a PC for desirable usage.

now my last query is whether this graphic card you suggested http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-synergy-210-tc1g-ddr3-512-mb-graphics-card/p/itmdpxrfhvczwmtz?pid=GRCDPXQRGVFXCDKU&otracker=from-search&srno=t_8&query=at+graphic+card&ref=5acf7d9f-10e4-4a9b-9d1c-ad4139b12493 will this be of any help in crossfiring when i will be adding a additional graphic card later.

thanks in advance
 
First, Miit, I don't think you're doing any favors here. It's like you didn't bother reading his initial request outside of his budget. Jiten has specifically asked for low power consumption and web use first. Gaming is NOT a priority right now. So why are you recommending overclocking an AMD, which not only raises power consumption, but also requires more expensive cooling parts? He's already said he'll be adding a discrete card later up to ₹8000. I'll be shocked if the 270X you mentioned will ever go below ₹16,000 in the next two years. Why would you recommend an nVidia 210, a card that's arguably weaker than the integrated graphics in an Intel i3? And you need to check your parts better before recommending someone a CPU and mboard that has no video output.

Jiten, you're simply not going to get a "future-proof" system for ₹30,000. The budget is basically limiting you to parts that are already at least one year old. If the parts are already significantly dated, then future-proofing is simply impossible. However, that doesn't mean you can't get a very capable system for your intended use ( lots of web use and light gaming ) that will last a few years at the very least.

I strongly recommend you stick with the i3-3000 right now. The FX-4300 is a little stronger than the i3 in heavy computing tasks, but you won't be running into any of that web surfing. The FX also has no graphics of its own so you'd have to buy an add-in card or get a motherboard that has integrated video. The A8-5600K is also around the same price of the i3, but it isn't as strong a processor. The trade-off is you will get slightly better graphics to enable some mild gaming from the start rather than waiting a year. With all that considered, I say get the fastest i3-3000 series chip you can afford.

Next, running multiple graphics cards is not a requirement. While a lot of people talk about multi-GPU setups, it's actually much more common to run a single powerful GPU. You said you plan to add a GPU next year. When planning GPU upgrades, you need to make sure your PSU can power it, mainly that the PSU has the proper PCIe power cables to power the card. Most cards in your listed price range either don't need an auxiliary power cable or only need a single 6-pin cable. In your case I'd recommend getting a PSU that has a 6-pin connector, just in case you're able to get a good deal on a stronger GPU. If you can find a PSU that has two 6-pin cables for a similar price, all the better. However I think a second GPU for you is unlikely. By the time you need to upgrade your graphics, chances are you can get a single better card for close to the same money as buying a second card.
 

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FX 6300 will be not be bottlenecked by any good new graphic card. It can be used to fix in a good graphic card on later.And the MSI motherboard, it had crossfire support, so later on after adding another graphic card,you can add another graphic card and crossfire.
 



Again, it's like you didn't bother reading the original question. He wants a computer with no discrete card and low power consumption, yet you keep bringing up performance/gaming parts. If a single GPU is going to be the upgrade down the road, why are you even bothering with XFire/SLI now? By the time it becomes necessary or feasible to add the second card ( which sounds like it's at least two years out, ) it would be better, and likely just as cheap, to replace the card with whatever newer mainstream cards are available at that time.

And any comparison that relies almost exclusively on Passmark is near pointless. An i3 won't be a bottleneck for any activity proposed here.

Finally, 40W may not seem a lot to you, but to others around the world who have to pay their own expensive utility bills, it gets pretty significant.
 

Neither XFire nor SLI have anything to do with "future-proofing," nor were they mentioned in the original request. You're the one who originally even brought up that topic. Multiple cards make excellent sense when you have current GPUs driving the most advanced games across multiple displays, or one very high resolution display. They make zero sense in a web browsing and casual gaming machine that's concerned about power consumption. It's much more practical to get a single, reliable card now and then simply replace it when it gets too old and slow to keep up with the games you play.
 

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to red jargon
Request you to suggest a fresh configuration after going through below sites as above suggested most of the parts are either not available in India or are way beyond my revised 25000 to 30000 Indian rupees budget.
Snapdeal.com
Flipkart.com
Niki Shop.com
hardwire.in

To Red jargon & Miit123
skip that power consumption point as i realised now that power consumption really dosent matter much.
now i believe i want best combination of mother board & processor which can support best of graphic card in 5000 to 8000 indian rupees.

To red jargon & Miit123
i kindly request both of you red jargon & Miit123 to suggest me a final configration in budget 25 to 30k indian rupees.

motherboard
processor
Ram
hdd 500 gb
optical drive
power supply
Cooler fan or case fan if require.
 

miit123

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If power consumption really matters for you, you can go with the intel i3 3200, or 3210, it wont bottleneck any graphic card in 8000RS.
You can go with the FX 6300 if you want, it will have 40watts more power, its 3.5ghz and much overclockable.And it won't bottleneck any thing you throw at it.And for board you can go for this one:
http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-usb3-motherboard/p/itmdegddysfvzuqm?pid=MBDDEG8JWXZJAP4F&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=am3&ref=a8776b11-eb27-4fd8-a512-fc9a4f8716c5

RedJargon was actually right from the point of upgrading graphic card instead of crossfire.
This board doesn't have crossfire support,but has USB 3.0 and the best thing, DVI-D, HDMI, and VGA ports. A graphic card is needed for this ports, but this motherboard already has these slots.