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Can I upgrade motherboard and processor without reinstalling Win. 8.0 and other programs?

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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 11:01:36 AM

Hey, guys!

I have seen several posts here, including post from the administrator of the forum, claiming that Windows 8 is not "motherboard-bound" as it used to be with Windows 7 and can be moved and run on another system. I have OEM version of Windows 8.0 installed. Once I wanted to use the same serial/key on another build. It accepted it at first and was working, but a week later- it told me that this key was already in use and asked for another key.

Now the issue: I have i7 3770K with Asus P8Z77- V Pro Thunderbolt build. It is my music production computer and it has many software, such as VST plug ins installed with sound libraries and samples installed over 3 hard drives. All together it has 2 SSD drives and 2 HDD drives. I have 2 problems with it:

1) It is Win. 8.0. I am afraid to upgrade it to 8.1, because some of my MIDI controllers and audio devices do not have 8.1 drivers. But I know that with time I may have problems because everything will be made for 8.1.

2). I have one midi controller (NI Maschine) that prevents Windows to boot when it connected before Windows loaded. It puts Windows in restart loop and them attempts to start repair. After working with NI tech support for 3 months and reinstalling drivers and software and even deleting the keys in the registry, we were not able to resolve this issue. NI claims that this happens only on my computer and refuses to fix it or take the gear back. My Haswell build with Win 8.1 has no problems to load windows when this controller is connected. It has Z87 Deluxe motherboard.

During thye Blackfriday events I was seduced in to starting another build. I justify it as a build for my son, also it is 3rd build this year. It was supposed to be a budget build but then I bought I7 4770K and now it is stronger build than my main music computer.

I want to take the 4 drives (2 SSD and 2 HDD) and move them in to this new Haswell build (have not decided on motherboard). Why? I hope that this would resolve the controller issue of Windows failing *IF* it was motherboard-related. If it was error in Windows 8.0 installation, then moving it to another MoBo and processor would not solve anything, but I will have stronger hardware. It bothers me that my 9 years old child would have better build than my professional recording studio. So I want to give him this 1 year old 3770K build and move my drives in to the new build. Another reason to move is that I like to make my music computer a dual boot and run Mac OS on it and I can not do it with Asus P8Z77 board- it has to be Z87 or Gigabyte brand.

Sorry for all this reading. But can I just move the drives on to another motherboard/processor build, or will it freak out and ask for another key?

If it does as for another key, can I just give it another key without reinstalling anything?

Can I use the old key on the new SSD that I would put in to older Z77 3770 K? If it is motherboard0 bound, it should accept it, right?

Thank you for reading and your input.
a c 422 * Windows 8
a c 224 V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 11:07:50 AM

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I have seen several posts here, including post from the administrator of the forum, claiming that Windows 8 is not "motherboard-bound" as it used to be with Windows 7 and can be moved and run on another system. I have OEM version of Windows 8.0 installed. Once I wanted to use the same serial/key on another build. It accepted it at first and was working, but a week later- it told me that this key was already in use and asked for another key.


You can reuse Win 8, but only one system at a time. If there is an activation issue, try the activation via the phone robot. Worst case, call and talk to a human.
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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 12:31:04 PM

Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?
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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 12:32:47 PM

Also- if I had Asus Motherboard, would it make any issue, if the new motherboard is Gigabyte?
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a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 12:33:27 PM

Astralv said:
Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?


If you call Microsot they might let you transfer the key, so long as you aren't using it on the other computer at the same time.
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a c 422 * Windows 8
a c 224 V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 12:33:34 PM

Astralv said:
Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?


Moving the drive to another system won't deactivate the OS install, but there may be other issues with drivers, etc.
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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 12:58:51 PM

Thank you for your great replies!

One way or another, I would need another key. If it is motherboard-bound, it would make sense to give new key on the new build and old key- on the new SSD with old Motherboard/Processor. I guess I would have to see how it behaves.

USARet, you made me think. The drivers. Motherboards are not involved in chipset, but if I had 3770K chipset installed, I would have to install new chipset for the 4770K, right? I would be also moving AMD 7850 graphic card, so that driver would not be affected. I can not think of any drivers affected by Motherboard/Processor. can you?

And generally speacking... should I move it or not? The reason I wrote this long first post... I can not decide. This is very stable system. With music production, sometime little things make audio software unstable. I read posts on Cakewalk forum where guys with good hardware contiuously experience freezes, clicking, audio drop outs for unknown reasons. Yes, it is almost a year old (10 months old), but I doubt- I would be using it full lifecycle. I know Bradwell is expected by next year's July, and then I cant remember what they were planning. When do we expect Windows Blue? Or was the 8.1 "blue"? If I keep using older build, I would have excuse to rebuild it earlier, lets say- in 2 years...Or may be they will stop making desktops? May be I should not disturb it? I wanted to turn it in to CastoMac, but most of my music plug ins run on Windows just fine. Despite common opinion that music is done on Macs, I am yet to find software synth that would not work on Windows... I know- moving things around is not good idea. How do you all feel about it? Thank you.
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a c 422 * Windows 8
a c 224 V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 1:14:32 PM

If it is stable and working, do not fsck with it. Win 8.1 provides some minimal benefits over 8.0, but I have not seen need to upgrade on my main PC. I shifted a secondary laptop over to 8.1, and for my use...is not that much different.

There is no new key needed to upgrade a single machine from 8.0 to 8.1. Only if you want to create a whole new PC.

Despite various blog ramblings, there is no danger of desktops not being built anytime soon.

(The upgrade codenamed "Windows Blue" is 8.1.)
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a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 1:16:14 PM

USAFRet said:
Astralv said:
Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?


Moving the drive to another system won't deactivate the OS install, but there may be other issues with drivers, etc.


so..OEM is or isn't tied to the motherboard? only once have I gotten an error message saying too much has been changed hardware wise, and windows wouldn't let me past the logon screen. Other times with a laptop drive I switched hdd (with OS) jto a different laptop and it worked fine.
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a c 422 * Windows 8
a c 224 V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 1:21:45 PM

Beezy said:
USAFRet said:
Astralv said:
Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?


Moving the drive to another system won't deactivate the OS install, but there may be other issues with drivers, etc.


so..OEM is or isn't tied to the motherboard? only once have I gotten an error message saying too much has been changed hardware wise, and windows wouldn't let me past the logon screen. Other times with a laptop drive I switched hdd (with OS) jto a different laptop and it worked fine.


For Windows 8 and 8.1, no. Win7 and previous, yes.
The licensing changed significantly.
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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 2:12:04 PM

Yeah, I feel it is like disaster waiting to happen if I start moving it.

What is your experience/impression with Gigabyte motherboards? I have 2 builds with Asus and it works with minor issues (sleep, not able to remember screen resolutions/dual monitor settings, IE crashing and acting like it got a virus (no viruses here). But for CustoMac they only recommend Gigabyte. I am not asking how it would work with MacOS, I am asking how Gigabyte handles Windows. I am reading horror stories on the review section about USB 3.0 failing and all kind of drama.
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a c 422 * Windows 8
a c 224 V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 2:44:06 PM

Astralv said:
Yeah, I feel it is like disaster waiting to happen if I start moving it.

What is your experience/impression with Gigabyte motherboards? I have 2 builds with Asus and it works with minor issues (sleep, not able to remember screen resolutions/dual monitor settings, IE crashing and acting like it got a virus (no viruses here). But for CustoMac they only recommend Gigabyte. I am not asking how it would work with MacOS, I am asking how Gigabyte handles Windows. I am reading horror stories on the review section about USB 3.0 failing and all kind of drama.


2 out of my 3 main daily use PCs have a Gigabyte motherboard. No problems.
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a b V Motherboard
November 30, 2013 3:25:37 PM

USAFRet said:
Beezy said:
USAFRet said:
Astralv said:
Thank you for your reply. So if Windows 8.0 is already installed and activated, and then I move the same SSD to another system, it should work, right? Ot will it lock itself and say- the serial is already in use? I never used the phone robot. If it fails to activate online, wouldn't the robot use the same digital information and fail too?


Moving the drive to another system won't deactivate the OS install, but there may be other issues with drivers, etc.


so..OEM is or isn't tied to the motherboard? only once have I gotten an error message saying too much has been changed hardware wise, and windows wouldn't let me past the logon screen. Other times with a laptop drive I switched hdd (with OS) jto a different laptop and it worked fine.


For Windows 8 and 8.1, no. Win7 and previous, yes.
The licensing changed significantly.


Well XP was the one that didn't work. Windows 7 did work.
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a b * Windows 8
November 30, 2013 5:54:51 PM

Thank you, I guess I will think about it more and probably leave it alone. :) 
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a c 417 * Windows 8
a b V Motherboard
December 1, 2013 12:32:32 AM

Can give you benefit of recent experience regarding Activation on different machines. I clean installed W 8 on an HP dv7 which is several generations more recent than the failed TX2000 from which I used the Product Key to Activate. Was met with the usual greeting pointing out that the key was invalid, go buy another etcetera, but all I had to do was choose the option to phone M'soft and was led down the usual Robot path to enter multiple groups of ever increasing numbers, which resulted in Activation. The salient question is 'On how many PCs is this installed' to which the 'One' answer seemed to satisfy the Robot... So I guess the answer to your question is 'yes', another key will be asked for, but the Robot will be happy with your old one...
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a b * Windows 8
December 1, 2013 12:41:46 PM

Thank you for the info, may be handy :) 
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