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FPS drops is it my system, do I need to upgrade?

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November 30, 2013 11:34:29 AM

I currently own this setup.

GTX 670 Gigabyte 2GB
AMD 1090T 3.712ghz OC
8GB Corsair Vengeance
Hyper 212+ EVO
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO USB3
OCZ Stealth X2 700w


Right now, it seems to be running most games no problem. But, I've been having frame rate drop issues in a lot of more depending games. Such as, Battlefield 4, METRO, Crysis, Rome 2 Total war. I've been told many times it's a CPU bottle neck. But, then others with the same CPU have said no because they're getting great smooth game play on the same games with similar GPUs.

In short, I'll be playing Battlefield 4 for example. I usually get a solid 85fps+. Then suddenly I'll get a drop to 35fps-45fps. It usually happens during the more intense action parts. But, it lasts for about 30 seconds and while still lots of stuff happening on the screen it will fix it self. This happens for all the other higher end demanding games also. But of course not for source engine games or older games.

If it is a CPU bottleneck. What is a good alternative that will last me into the new generation of gaming for a bit. Like two years or so. I don't wanna spend too much money on it but I'll be willing to because I may be able to get a good deal for boxing day (Canada black friday). And might be able to get higher end CPUs for a good price. Maybe give me a list of the best of the best to the lowest I should go before it wouldn't even make a different upgrading from my 1090T.

I've been debating on going with AMD to the 8350. I would first go buy a AM3+ motherboard and then transfer all my parts over too it. Then on boxing day I'd buy the 8350 or if I find it on a good price somewhere. I'd probably SLI my GTX 670 in the future also to continue adding more power.

In conclusion. What is causing my FPS drops? Is it really my older socket 1090T? Maybe my over clocks are hurting my hardware? I have ran prime95 for a bit and had no issues or crashes and good temperatures. As well as my GPU stress testing it and getting its make temperatures and they are low also.



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November 30, 2013 12:07:54 PM

Your cpu is really old,i would say cpu bottleneck! :p  I would go with 6300 or 8350!
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November 30, 2013 12:12:55 PM

Cyber Monday is coming up and I would go for a FX 6300/8320/8350 along with a good AM3+ mobo.
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November 30, 2013 12:19:05 PM

RazerZ said:
Cyber Monday is coming up and I would go for a FX 6300/8320/8350 along with a good AM3+ mobo.


Agreed!
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November 30, 2013 12:25:31 PM

Okay, so I was honestly thinking of the 8350. Will that be a good CPU over the next few years? Will it keep up with new games? Also, to back it up as I said I do plan on going SLI gtx 670 eventually.


The reason I ask is because I have done a lot of looking up such as 1090T vs 8350 and I came across a thread here that showed this..

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=146

After looking at that, it seems my 1090T is still good and what I'd be seeing is maybe a 5-10% upgrade but is that really worth $200?
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November 30, 2013 12:29:24 PM

thedude300 said:
Okay, so I was honestly thinking of the 8350. Will that be a good CPU over the next few years? Will it keep up with new games? Also, to back it up as I said I do plan on going SLI gtx 670 eventually.


The reason I ask is because I have done a lot of looking up such as 1090T vs 8350 and I came across a thread here that showed this..

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=146

After looking at that, it seems my 1090T is still good and what I'd be seeing is maybe a 5-10% upgrade but is that really worth $200?


Yep it should last a few years. Also it seems there is a huge improvement almost 40% according to passmark, but these benchmarks could be wrong.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X...

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eig...
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November 30, 2013 5:03:08 PM

Is the amd route a good way to go or should I switch too Intel?
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November 30, 2013 5:24:10 PM

To me intel has better processors. It doesn't have a big difference though.
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November 30, 2013 6:49:44 PM

Which Intel in particular I don't want no go ivy bridge as it seems older now to me maybe the 4670k or is that expensive
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November 30, 2013 7:20:49 PM

thedude300 said:
Which Intel in particular I don't want no go ivy bridge as it seems older now to me maybe the 4670k or is that expensive


Its about $30 more, I would go with the 8350 as games start to use more cores, however it seems that am3+ might be a bit of a dead socket, since steamroller doesn't seem like it will be on it. They are both good choices however. I'm going with the 4670k, since i know there will be an upgrade path for me.
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November 30, 2013 7:21:38 PM

thedude300 said:
Which Intel in particular I don't want no go ivy bridge as it seems older now to me maybe the 4670k or is that expensive


Ivy bridge is better performance wise due to the circuit bound by solder rather than thermal paste. It also is around the same price as the 8350 right now.
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December 1, 2013 5:10:54 PM

I'm thinking of this combo.. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 and 8350 I can get it for $289.99 plus tax by Dec 4th. Should I go for it? or is there a better board I should go for instead?
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December 1, 2013 6:51:17 PM

thedude300 said:
I'm thinking of this combo.. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 and 8350 I can get it for $289.99 plus tax by Dec 4th. Should I go for it? or is there a better board I should go for instead?


I wouldn't go for a 8350 but get a i5-3570k and an ASRock Extreme 4 board. It'll come to around $300. Even though it may seem old the i5 3570k performs nearly the same as the new 4670k. It's $20 more for the 4670k but in the future you can upgrade to broadwell where as your upgrade path ends with the 8350 and you can upgrade to the i7 with the ivy.
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December 1, 2013 7:29:10 PM

So, if I get a 3570, I can no longer upgrade to the next generation. Which also goes for the 8350. But, if I get a 4670k, I can upgrade to the next generation of intel processors?


Also, after that question. What is your opinion of games being utilized/optimized more for multi core processors? Wouldn't the 8350 be good for that kind of thing? I don't always game, I also convert a lot of movies. But, gaming is my main concern. I'm not biased to AMD by any means if Intel is the way to go then so be it. I just wanna make sure I make a good decision and not regret it a year down the road.
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December 1, 2013 7:42:04 PM

thedude300 said:
So, if I get a 3570, I can no longer upgrade to the next generation. Which also goes for the 8350. But, if I get a 4670k, I can upgrade to the next generation of intel processors?


Also, after that question. What is your opinion of games being utilized/optimized more for multi core processors? Wouldn't the 8350 be good for that kind of thing? I don't always game, I also convert a lot of movies. But, gaming is my main concern. I'm not biased to AMD by any means if Intel is the way to go then so be it. I just wanna make sure I make a good decision and not regret it a year down the road.


Even though AMD has eight cores, they're not that powerful each. You could say two core equals one core on the 3570k. The 8350 and 3570 battle has been going on before the Haswell and the only instance the 8350 won was due to it being $50 less than the i5 and it worked better for video editing, rendering ,etc.

Here's a comparison between the two:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=701

So if you plan to upgrade to a broadwell get the haswell cpu, if not then get the ivy bridge.
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December 1, 2013 8:17:07 PM

Any information on Broadwell on how well it will preform? It seems that I rather have a motherboard ready for the next generation so it's one less part to buy. But, of course this will be far in the future.
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December 1, 2013 8:24:49 PM

thedude300 said:
Any information on Broadwell on how well it will preform? It seems that I rather have a motherboard ready for the next generation so it's one less part to buy. But, of course this will be far in the future.


Well Cyber Monday is tomorrow all three of those CPUs will be on sale. Broadwell is estimated to be about 5% faster but with 2x better intergrated graphics...
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December 1, 2013 8:34:35 PM

I'm in Canada, I don't know if I can get good prices from the states during Cyber Monday. I'd have to wait for our version of that which is the day after Christmas.

What's a good haswell board to get?
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December 1, 2013 9:10:04 PM

Look for a board near $100. As rock extreme 4, gigabytes udh, and Asus z87-A and z87-pro are all good boards. Gigabyte has the best ability to overclock. Sorry for the bad descriptions but I'm on my iPhone now :p 
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December 2, 2013 8:58:34 AM

I was considering going the gigabyte route as I have a gigabyte gtx 670 and will be over clocking
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