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Intel Core i5-3570K vs Intel Core i5-3470

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November 30, 2013 11:17:47 PM

On Amazon it's just a $10 difference, besides the price I want to know how well they perform against each other. I'm mainly going to be gaming with these cpu's and I want to know which is better. I'm new to hardware so I probably won't know what you guys are saying when you have a mixture of letters and numbers together, I just want to know which is better. Thank you.
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November 30, 2013 11:21:37 PM

The 3570K can be overclocked on a motherboard that supports it. It's also very slightly faster, but when gaming you're not going to notice a difference, nor when you overclock it.
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November 30, 2013 11:28:13 PM

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The 3570K can be overclocked on a motherboard that supports it. It's also very slightly faster, but when gaming you're not going to notice a difference, nor when you overclock it.


please don't spread misinformation - of course you will see a difference when cpu is overclocked - you'll get higher fps, as long as your videocard is not bottlenecking,
get the "k" no doubt... it's much more futurproof even if you don't need the overclock now, just get a decent motherboard
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November 30, 2013 11:36:31 PM

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as long as your videocard is not bottlenecking,


Exactly. The GPU is almost always the bottleneck, unless you're dealing with a 144Hz display or something.

And from the OP, I'm guessing he's not the kind of person I'd want to let near an unlocked chip.
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December 1, 2013 12:31:44 AM

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as long as your videocard is not bottlenecking,


Exactly. The GPU is almost always the bottleneck, unless you're dealing with a 144Hz display or something.

And from the OP, I'm guessing he's not the kind of person I'd want to let near an unlocked chip.


i wouldn't say that's entirely the case, and if you buy a cpu this expensive surely you can afford a decent videocard as well... still - for a 10$ difference i cannot recommend a non overclockable cpu, the op will have years to learn about it and stretch the cpu's abilities later on...

And in general: better or worse i really want people to buy amd chips, amsd needs help with their marketshare...
intel has already been getting lazy because amd can't keep up... we need more software and game optimizations for amd cpu's to keep the battle going, therefore i say - get the AMD
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December 1, 2013 1:20:30 AM

It's another $50 for a Z-series motherboard, though.

Both are currently quite overkill for gaming on anything but a HFR display (and some very multiplayer games). CPU usage doesn't change much with resolution or game settings.
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December 1, 2013 2:06:30 AM

they are not overkill ... i switched from a overclocked q6700 to a fx-6350 a few days ago and it's noticably smoother even on my 60hz 1080p screen,
far cry 3 is much happier with this cpu...
anyway... let's leave that for the OP to decide
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December 1, 2013 2:19:04 AM

Yes. And a Q6700 is quite a distance away from an i5, isn't it?
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December 1, 2013 3:00:20 AM

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Yes. And a Q6700 is quite a distance away from an i5, isn't it?


so what? name an i5 below 3570k (apart from sandy) that you would recommend to a gamer - thought so.
and you wouldn't recommend a 2 core i3 either (well there are some of those nutcases still out there, it'll have the longevity of a samsung phone model) for anything below a i5 - fx6300/6350 and atleast 970 chipset board
i'd take a haswell 4670k anyway ... why buy old technology?
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December 1, 2013 3:28:13 AM

3350P.

Longevity of a Samsung phone? My mum has a hand-me-down Galaxy S. It's running great. My Galaxy nexus is still pretty good.

No, I wouldn't recommend an i3 for gaming. Games are slowly going multithreaded.

If you already have an LGA1155 board lined up, why buy a new one to get something very marginally better?
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December 1, 2013 3:41:46 AM

there's absolutely no reason to get a non-overclockable cpu if you want it to last... in 2 -3 years you WILL want more from it even if it's enough today...
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December 1, 2013 3:48:49 AM

And many people would prefer having cash in hand now to having the possibility of gambling their chip in a few years.
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December 1, 2013 3:53:40 AM

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And many people would prefer having cash in hand now to having the possibility of gambling their chip in a few years.


that's what AMD is for ... so if intel - then 3570k
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December 1, 2013 4:04:15 AM

Not necessarily. Many games are still quite single threaded.
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December 1, 2013 4:20:58 AM

goddamn can you stop trolling me? f*"# single threaded games, stop recommending useless cpu's to people if there's only a 10$ difference between them ... the increased price of mobo should be no problem, - if it is he needs to get AMD in the first place and drop the saved cash in a better GPU
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December 1, 2013 4:31:57 AM

I'm not trolling you. What gave you that impression?

Many people still play poorly-threaded games.

I'm not saying that the 3570K is a bad chip, but if you don't intend to get a Z-series board and OC it, there's no point in the extra $10.

Has it crossed your mind that people might both want to play poorly-threaded games and not OC? For which a non-OCable i3 or i5 is the best option.
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December 1, 2013 12:49:36 PM

so what? - even if i didn't get the z-series board i would still pay the extra 10$ just because that cpu will have a much better aftermarket value ... just because... you know... it's overclockable, there are so many reasons why to choose the k in this situation...
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December 1, 2013 8:08:45 PM

I tend to hang onto old tech and use it for increasingly low-power uses until it's completely obsolete. Besides, I highly doubt you'll get an extra $10 for a chip that would only be worth about $40 in five years time.
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December 1, 2013 11:13:25 PM

you would think that... but i don't live in a country with great economy - core2quads sell for $80 here at the cheapest and the good ones go even over a $100... and my point was not it's money worth but the fact that it'll be much easier to sell because people buy only the best things 2nd hand,
and also why 5 years? ... maybe you wanna sell it in a year or two and upgrade to the newest tech? - that's where you will see the real difference,
- congratulations to us for successfuly hijacking this thread.
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December 1, 2013 11:56:52 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
The 3570K can be overclocked on a motherboard that supports it. It's also very slightly faster, but when gaming you're not going to notice a difference, nor when you overclock it.


Someone Somewhere said:
I'm not trolling you. What gave you that impression?

Many people still play poorly-threaded games.

I'm not saying that the 3570K is a bad chip, but if you don't intend to get a Z-series board and OC it, there's no point in the extra $10.

Has it crossed your mind that people might both want to play poorly-threaded games and not OC? For which a non-OCable i3 or i5 is the best option.


I don't mean this offensively, but are you just messing with this guy? Or do you actually believe these things. Just to set some things straight because i question many of your answers as I think most here would, "gaming you're not going to notice a difference, nor when you overclock it."

That is actually the entire point to overclocking, If it had no effect then such a thing would be completely pointless and nobody would ever do it. The difference in frame rates between for instance, my 3570k at stock 3.4 and overclocked to 4.4 is an average jump of about 10 FPS. Which as anyone who does a hefty overclock will tell you, is very noticeable.

"CPU usage doesn't change much with resolution or game settings. "

When changing graphics settings, the CPU usage doesn't fluctuate as much but when lowering the resolution, The system uses less CPU. That is actually the method that many use to test for a CPU bottleneck.

"The GPU is almost always the bottleneck"

Again, not true. We're entering an era of very CPU reliant games which is why the recommended CPU for Battlefield 4 is an AMD 6 Core or a second or third gen i5 or i7. We're now noticing the CPU dependency that these newer games now have. The point of upgrading your system is not just to run what's out there at the moment, But to future proof your system to run future games so you can at least go a few years without having to upgrade, and $10 is not a difference at all, when it comes to gaming. Sparing 10 bucks for a better CPU is an obvious decision.

That's less than the price of a few bags of potato chips, ofcourse go for the 3570k. When it comes to gaming, there is no such thing as overkill because with when it comes to how multithreaded these next gen games are, I guarantee every ounce of it will be put to use.
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