Will my GFX Card fit my PSU
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 2:37:27 AM
I was wondering will it fit my psu..
CURRENT RIG:
Pašreizējā sistēma
AMD Phenom II X4 965
ASRock 970 Extreme3
2x4gb Kingston hyper PC3-10700 667mhz
Nvidia GeForce GT 240
XILINCE Redwing Series 500W R3
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200
Video card that i want: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650TIBDC2OC2GD5/#...
Used online calculators and wattage went from 300-650..
CURRENT RIG:
Pašreizējā sistēma
AMD Phenom II X4 965
ASRock 970 Extreme3
2x4gb Kingston hyper PC3-10700 667mhz
Nvidia GeForce GT 240
XILINCE Redwing Series 500W R3
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200
Video card that i want: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650TIBDC2OC2GD5/#...
Used online calculators and wattage went from 300-650..
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LordPonce
December 1, 2013 2:42:19 AM
laviniuc said:
you can use a molex to 6pin adapter. most gpu will come with on in the box.That cheating can be done only if u know its a good psu. The 420W model only delivers 80%
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&rurl=transl...
The 500W model seems to be dodgy
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IAmSpencer
December 1, 2013 3:01:24 AM
chimera201 said:
laviniuc said:
you can use a molex to 6pin adapter. most gpu will come with on in the box.That cheating can be done only if u know its a good psu. The 420W model only delivers 80%
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&rurl=transl...
The 500W model seems to be dodgy
at worse it will be a bit unstable and he gets a new psu too after that if he has issues. but the psu should be ok to drive the gtx650
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chimera201 said:
laviniuc said:
you can use a molex to 6pin adapter. most gpu will come with on in the box.That cheating can be done only if u know its a good psu. The 420W model only delivers 80%
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&rurl=transl...
The 500W model seems to be dodgy
nice find. however a 650boost won't run a rig higher than ~250 watts.

http://www.eteknix.com/asus-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-oc...
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 3:25:54 AM
Fidycent said:
Uhm, lookin at images n stuff it takes 2x 4 pins to get 6 pin, i got 2 free 4 pins, so that should work?ya know -maybe you should just get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 3:43:30 AM
qbsinfo said:
Fidycent said:
Uhm, lookin at images n stuff it takes 2x 4 pins to get 6 pin, i got 2 free 4 pins, so that should work?ya know -maybe you should just get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Newegg doesnt ship to EU, im from Latvia, so my options are pretty limited.
Wow, misspelled ship to shi*... Sorry
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laviniuc said:
chimera201 said:
laviniuc said:
you can use a molex to 6pin adapter. most gpu will come with on in the box.That cheating can be done only if u know its a good psu. The 420W model only delivers 80%
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&rurl=transl...
The 500W model seems to be dodgy
at worse it will be a bit unstable and he gets a new psu too after that if he has issues. but the psu should be ok to drive the gtx650
I said the 500W model appears to be dodgy because i can't find the combined amperage on +12V rail(It has 2 +12V rails). So worst case it might even explode.
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chimera201 said:
laviniuc said:
chimera201 said:
laviniuc said:
you can use a molex to 6pin adapter. most gpu will come with on in the box.That cheating can be done only if u know its a good psu. The 420W model only delivers 80%
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&rurl=transl...
The 500W model seems to be dodgy
at worse it will be a bit unstable and he gets a new psu too after that if he has issues. but the psu should be ok to drive the gtx650
I said the 500W model appears to be dodgy because i can't find the combined amperage on +12V rail(It has 2 +12V rails). So worst case it might even explode.
funny
and we could all be hit by a meteor tomorrow and the world would end
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chimera201 said:
I said the 500W model appears to be dodgy because i can't find the combined amperage on +12V rail(It has 2 +12V rails). So worst case it might even explode.
you looking for this?

http://www.pclabs.com.tr/2010/10/02/400-500-watt-aralig...
yeah i know -it s a400 watt PSU
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laviniuc said:
funny
and we could all be hit by a meteor tomorrow and the world would endU don't know about power supplies exploding?
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cougar-RS-650-W-...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Huntkey-Green-St...
http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/psu-lemon-lis...
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 4:02:33 AM
qbsinfo said:
chimera201 said:
I said the 500W model appears to be dodgy because i can't find the combined amperage on +12V rail(It has 2 +12V rails). So worst case it might even explode.
you looking for this?

http://www.pclabs.com.tr/2010/10/02/400-500-watt-aralig...
yeah i know -it s a400 watt PSU
It might be a 400W psu but usually psu's like these have bad capacitors and capacitors age over time and it will shutdown or explode after months of heavy load. They must have tested on a new stock psu. An old one wouldn't even withstand i guess 200W
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Fidycent said:
So thats it, it simply knocks out? Will it kill rest of my pc or just the PSU? I was afraid if it does that i might have to get a whole new pc, and my new video card would be good for 10 minutes...Yes. It's best to buy a decent quality psu. U don't have to buy an 80+ Platinum or 80+Gold psu. U can just buy a cheap decent 80+certified psu. U will also get better performance and lower temperatures with a decent psu
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 4:15:36 AM
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
So thats it, it simply knocks out? Will it kill rest of my pc or just the PSU? I was afraid if it does that i might have to get a whole new pc, and my new video card would be good for 10 minutes...Yes. It's best to buy a decent quality psu. U don't have to buy an 80+ Platinum or 80+Gold psu. U can just buy a cheap decent 80+certified psu. U will also get better performance and lower temperatures with a decent psu
Im on a really tight budget, stuff here costs like 1.5 it does on newegg..
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chimera201 said:
It might be a 400W psu but usually psu's like these have bad capacitors and capacitors age over time and it will shutdown or explode after months of heavy load. They must have tested on a new stock psu. An old one wouldn't even withstand i guess 200W
caps don't age but they do dry out from heat. hey, at least it has PFC.

actually thats the 420 but the same OEM.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page2829.ht...
and you know the OCP works if it shut down - so no explodie!
but btw, i did suggest a very budget oriented rosewell stallion before . . .
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Fidycent said:
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
So thats it, it simply knocks out? Will it kill rest of my pc or just the PSU? I was afraid if it does that i might have to get a whole new pc, and my new video card would be good for 10 minutes...Yes. It's best to buy a decent quality psu. U don't have to buy an 80+ Platinum or 80+Gold psu. U can just buy a cheap decent 80+certified psu. U will also get better performance and lower temperatures with a decent psu
Im on a really tight budget, stuff here costs like 1.5 it does on newegg..
Do u have any online sites and what's your budget in local currency.
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 4:24:22 AM
qbsinfo said:
chimera201 said:
It might be a 400W psu but usually psu's like these have bad capacitors and capacitors age over time and it will shutdown or explode after months of heavy load. They must have tested on a new stock psu. An old one wouldn't even withstand i guess 200W
caps don't age but they do dry out from heat. hey, at least it has PFC.

actually thats the 420 but the same OEM.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page2829.ht...
and you know the OCP works if it shut down - so no explodie!
but btw, i did suggest a very budget oriented rosewell stallion before . . .
Paying that should be no problem, but as i mentioned its on newegg, im from EU, isnt possible to ship and here it would cost me around 70$
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 4:38:06 AM
Fidycent
December 1, 2013 4:50:39 AM
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
So thats it, it simply knocks out? Will it kill rest of my pc or just the PSU? I was afraid if it does that i might have to get a whole new pc, and my new video card would be good for 10 minutes...Yes. It's best to buy a decent quality psu. U don't have to buy an 80+ Platinum or 80+Gold psu. U can just buy a cheap decent 80+certified psu. U will also get better performance and lower temperatures with a decent psu
Im on a really tight budget, stuff here costs like 1.5 it does on newegg..
Do u have any online sites and what's your budget in local currency.
http://shop.balticdata.lv/
Thats the site i use, the video card goes for 120 LVL
I dont really know about my budget talking about the psu.
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Fidycent said:
qbsinfo said:
but btw, i did suggest a very budget oriented rosewell stallion before . . .
Paying that should be no problem, but as i mentioned its on newegg, im from EU, isnt possible to ship and here it would cost me around 70$
where at in the EU?
http://pcpartpicker.com/
upper right hand corner to switch for UK, germany, france, spain and italy . .
to answer your other question - though i doubt anything terrible will happen - with facts found, it is probably best to be cautious, get the card but wait until you have a more reliable PSU before using it.
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 5:01:32 AM
qbsinfo said:
Fidycent said:
qbsinfo said:
but btw, i did suggest a very budget oriented rosewell stallion before . . .
Paying that should be no problem, but as i mentioned its on newegg, im from EU, isnt possible to ship and here it would cost me around 70$
where at in the EU?
http://pcpartpicker.com/
upper right hand corner to switch for UK, germany, france, spain and italy . .
to answer your other question - though i doubt anything terrible will happen - with facts found, it is probably best to be cautious, get the card but wait until you have a more reliable PSU before using it.
Latvia, nothing from EU even really ships here..
And dont get me wrong, but whats point of buying a new card and leave it sitting at home, it wont be used, the warranty will keep going etc
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Fidycent said:
http://shop.balticdata.lv/
Thats the site i use, the video card goes for 120 LVL
I dont really know about my budget talking about the psu.
Google translate isn't working for the site
Could u list PSUs around 25 LVL
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 5:07:55 AM
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
http://shop.balticdata.lv/
Thats the site i use, the video card goes for 120 LVL
I dont really know about my budget talking about the psu.
Google translate isn't working for the site
Could u list PSUs around 25 LVL
Uhm, theres quite a few, if you go to the site on the left theres ''Datoru sastāvdaļas'' click that, then ''Korpusi barošanas bloki'' and then press Visi to see all of em
Also, i can defo take a new PSU if i do the other card (2nd link)
https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650TIBDC2OC2GD5/
https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX650_TI1GD5/
Is there a huge difference between them, since the price is 4/3 of the other one.
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I think u should buy this one. This is the cheapest one and good enough for your system
Corsair CX 430 (75-001666 / CP-9020046)
http://shop.balticdata.lv/ArticulInfo.php?ArticulNumber...
The 650 Ti Boost is much better than the 650 Ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/782?vs=781
Also GTX 650 Ti Boost is the highest card u can go with. Higher than that then the cpu will become a bottleneck
Corsair CX 430 (75-001666 / CP-9020046)
http://shop.balticdata.lv/ArticulInfo.php?ArticulNumber...
The 650 Ti Boost is much better than the 650 Ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/782?vs=781
Also GTX 650 Ti Boost is the highest card u can go with. Higher than that then the cpu will become a bottleneck
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 6:14:14 AM
chimera201 said:
I think u should buy this one. This is the cheapest one and good enough for your systemCorsair CX 430 (75-001666 / CP-9020046)
http://shop.balticdata.lv/ArticulInfo.php?ArticulNumber...
The 650 Ti Boost is much better than the 650 Ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/782?vs=781
Also GTX 650 Ti Boost is the highest card u can go with. Higher than that then the cpu will become a bottleneck
Uhm, could i try running my current psu with the card for a few weeks, then get that one?
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Fidycent said:
Uhm, could i try running my current psu with the card for a few weeks, then get that one?
Well that is really upto u. U will have to use a converter cable. Does it have a 6-pin pcie connector? Because the lower wattage models 420,450,480W have a 6+2 pin connector but the 500W model doesn't have any. That is what bothers me.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page2829.ht...
It's better to be safe than sorry. U don't want a costly gpu to underperform or worst case get damaged
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 7:14:41 AM
Fidycent said:
Well, the connector costs about 0.. GPU underperforming will have an effect on the gpu later or its just meanwhile?And it would get damaged by too low power or what?
Well, I really can't answer that because i never went cheap on the PSU for my build
But if the PSU does burn out , then it will surely take down some other components with it.
hardwaresecrets.com and jonnyguru.com are one of the first websites to review psus properly and professionally
http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/sunbeam-xilence-redwi...
In this thread u can see jonnyguru says "This one is tricky because it is neither a Sunbeam nor is it a Levicom" , "I would say that this is a unit to stay away from."
This is an article posted by TomsHardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-ma...
"After many tests and inspections of budget models (by us, our readers, and friendly computer stores), we would advise you to steer your piggy banks clear of the labels Rasurbo, Inter-Tech (Sinan Power, Coba), Tech Solo, LC Power, RaptoxX, Tronje, Xilence, Ultron, World Link, Q-Tec, etc."
How do you identify a bad power supply before buying it?
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Fidycent
December 1, 2013 1:21:51 PM
chimera201 said:
Fidycent said:
Uhm, could i try running my current psu with the card for a few weeks, then get that one?
Well that is really upto u. U will have to use a converter cable. Does it have a 6-pin pcie connector? Because the lower wattage models 420,450,480W have a 6+2 pin connector but the 500W model doesn't have any. That is what bothers me.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page2829.ht...
It's better to be safe than sorry. U don't want a costly gpu to underperform or worst case get damaged
i think we really aught to stop scaring him with stories from the crypt. the chance of a psu dmg-ing stuff or exploding are just minimal. yes, i agree that a better psu will help him but there's simply no reason not to try the new gpu. at worse even if the power that the gpu will require pushes the psu overboard it will be unstable (blue screens, restarts) and only during games or power intensive stuff.
for it to crash and burn instantly you would have to hook it up to some monster config that draws a lot more of what the psu can give even during idle. all the wattage s we consider are max or typical power draws. it's hard to get to that.
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laviniuc said:
i think we really aught to stop scaring him with stories from the crypt. the chance of a psu dmg-ing stuff or exploding are just minimal. yes, i agree that a better psu will help him but there's simply no reason not to try the new gpu. at worse even if the power that the gpu will require pushes the psu overboard it will be unstable (blue screens, restarts) and only during games or power intensive stuff.
for it to crash and burn instantly you would have to hook it up to some monster config that draws a lot more of what the psu can give even during idle. all the wattage s we consider are max or typical power draws. it's hard to get to that.
I never experienced it first hand, but one of my office colleagues tried a mid range gpu on a 550W psu that came with the cabinet. It blew. He went to a shop and the shopkeeper gave him same brand psu but with 100W more- 650W psu. That also blew and smoke came out. He came to me and told the story. He said himself that he was just plain lucky that none of his other components got damaged.
The official website doesn't list any protections
http://www.xilence.de/en/products/power-supplies/red-wi...
If u want a 100% sure answer u can go to hardwaresecrets.com and ask. I'm sure they will help and they are experts that actually load tests psus.
I think i'll ask SR-71 Blackbird to give his suggestion. I hope he doesn't ban me for asking him directly
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