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I purchased an HP 110-194
~i3 3220T processor
~8gb ram
I was going to purchase a Radeon 6670 GPU so that I can play most games
I then saw that it is recommended to have a 400w power supply
The computer comes with only 90w? Am I reading something wrong here? If not, which seems absurd, could you recommend me a power supply?
I am not tech savvy, many thanks.
 
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oh i hate HP with a firey passion, i do. lol they suck, period. I looked into this and i see a picture of the motherboard that came with your computer. I know you arent savvy with this stuff so ill try to make it easy to understand. The motherboard is a flat board that all the PC components connect to and communicate through, essentially (mind the cables). The monitor, hard drive, usb ports, cd drive, ethernet port, power supply, EVERYTHING hooks up to the motherboard. to support any sort of modern graphics card (GPU) you need what are called "expansion slots" on your motherboard...
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essentially an internal laptop power brick,yes.
heres a review i found from bestbuy...this pc is essentially a laptop in a tower case.

"Having said that, buyer beware. Be sure this machine meets your needs. Laptops have ran over the desktop market as their prices have gone down because of their mobility. There are still are a few reasons why a desktop makes sense for some people. You still can get a little more bang for your buck with a desktop if you don't need the mobility. Also, for power users, they allow you to create a more powerful machine that you can expand and upgrade as your needs change. You can add a more powerful video card, sound card, power supply etc. as required. This system provides you with almost none of that ability. It seems to use a laptop motherboard with an external 90watt power supply like a laptop uses. This has a 1T hard drive, but it you wanted to add another hard drive for some reason, there is no place for you do that. There seems to be no expansion slots, plus no knockouts on the back plate of the case to add additional cards. You need to be wired in to the internet, since there is no wireless. One reviewer said he bought a wireless solution, but I am not sure what that would be. Basically, what you see is what you get."
 
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That's correct. It's nothing more than a cheap laptop in a large case sans display, keyboard, and trackpad. No one with any IT knowledge would actually call that a desktop.

If you want to play games, you need to buy something better
 
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oh i hate HP with a firey passion, i do. lol they suck, period. I looked into this and i see a picture of the motherboard that came with your computer. I know you arent savvy with this stuff so ill try to make it easy to understand. The motherboard is a flat board that all the PC components connect to and communicate through, essentially (mind the cables). The monitor, hard drive, usb ports, cd drive, ethernet port, power supply, EVERYTHING hooks up to the motherboard. to support any sort of modern graphics card (GPU) you need what are called "expansion slots" on your motherboard. They are called PCI slots, and your motherboard does not have ANY. This means you cant add a wireless network card, a GPU, or any sort of "upgrade". Even if you could upgrade the power supply, you couldnt upgrade anything else to benefit from that new power supply :[ . Looks like the only sort of extra slot of any kind i see on that board, is another SATA port (Hard drives connect through this like the 1TB HDD it came with). So you can add another Hard drive, woopdeedoo lol...
 
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sorry to be the bearer of bad news man, but this is the upper limit on "limitations" when it comes to a PC. start saving up for a new build and well help you put it together! In the mean time you can enjoy flash games endlessly on your PC :p
 
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I'm going to have to take it back immediately, and at that point the black friday sales will be over and I'll be unable to buy any computer what-so-ever. Pretty furious at HP. Thanks for the help however.
 
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The black friday deals are good, but unless you need that very same money, you can still get ahead with cybermonday and buying some parts for your new build (will you build? or will you try your luck again with a pre-built?). Deals come and go, and ive seen some better ones during the normal year than i do on black friday, just keep your eyes peeled. With a pre-built i feel youll never really get your moneys worth, the manufactures need meat on the bone. When you buy part by part and build the whole thing you will save a lot of money..
 
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I was going to get an H535 Lenovo before it sold out with very similar specs
it was oddly only $300 on sale and had multiple expansion ports for whenever I would be ready to get a decent gpu
however it sold out on thursday :(
Previous to this post I was unaware that you could buy a "desktop" with zero expansion ports, at least without it being stated?
My friend was telling me I should not buy a prebuilt. Urgh. I suppose I won't, and will listen to you guys. I was just hoping to get a comp that I could play most 2000-2010 era games on. Nothing fancy. How little money do you expect I'd be able to come out of this spending? Also, thanks a bunch. Wishing someone would have pointed out this for me before I bought it
 
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Well if your willing to build, vs if you need a pre-built the recommendations will vary. Dont hate HP because honestly the value is there, but its alllll in that processor, and that single drive, and windows OS (in terms of value). They never planned on you wanting to upgrade anything, it was supposed to serve its purpose out of the box. With that lenovo the processor is slightly better, and wouldve been the much better choice. If you do go down that route again i like Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, I do everything i can to avoid HP/Compaq.
 
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I've always heard of Dell being unreliable, what do I know
I really wish I could have gotten that Lenovo now

You've sold me on building it myself
The thought of buying another prebuilt gives me a headache
 
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Its fun and im sure you will be fine, Tom's will help you each step of the way. Its really quite easy to put together if you are willing to learn a thing or two. And itll be your baby lol. You can build it to satisfy your needs while cutting out the crap manufactures want to get rid of. like a 90watt power supply, yikes.
 
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I have a friend who somewhat recently built a slightly higher budget gaming rig and will be able to assist me with physically building it, the main concern for me is being able to pick out compatible components at a good value. (Being a broke teenager is hard :) )
I also won't need to purchase the OS, which makes building it even more of a better choice.
 
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oh my youre in for a treat then, at Tom's we can only help you so much with the physical putting together so good thing you have your buddy... We do excel however in the technical knowhow, and functionality of parts, and their functionality when combined. Just figure your budget, max budget, and post a new thread stating your budget and what you would like to get out of your PC and youll have people building different configurations for you with links to the most popular/trusted online retailers for each part. :] . it was nice, when i got 80% of my build through newegg, i bought it all at once (one checkout) and it was shipped in one big box with all the stuff in it, so i could get to its construction right away.
 
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Thanks, bud. I opened another thread a couple of nights ago to determine an ideal build for $400. Going to return the computer. I used cyber monday deal's to purchase an a10-5800k, fm2 motherboard, 2x4gb, 1tb, 500w powersupply and case.
 
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send me a PM with a link to that thread
 
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