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Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA and G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB compatibility. QVL??

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December 2, 2013 4:28:14 AM

Hey guys, need expert advice here.
Getting a 2400 G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB ( it is a 2 x 8GB)
Memory Model: F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Tried to make sure it will be compatible. Read on the forum that this ram was actually recommended for the board bit when I went to double check it is not on the QVL list...how big of a deal will that be? Kind of breaking my head trying to find more explanation on the net.

I tried to find similar (read color and speed) GSKILL ram with 2x8g on the list, but I cant...see a lot of 4x4G rams, made me curious too about compatibility...

Basically what I am trying to figure out is: will it be a horrible idea to get this particular ram even if it is not on the QVL??
I am shooting for this 2x8 in particular because I do not need more than 16 and I like the speed of the ram and the color as well as manufacturer (goes with the build, however, the heat-sinks will have to go [for now, for a few months, till watercooling] due to large CPU cooler)

I looked at 1600 sniper series too on the QVL (actually I think it might be a better idea due to stability and not a huge difference in speed but I am not too limited on the budget so gravitated towards 2400, open to criticism on this one), but did not see anything with 2x8 for ram...confused

Open to any recommendation or soothness of paranoia lol

Build so far for those who are curious
Spoiler
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($305.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($177.89 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($186.34 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($748.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($148.00 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($179.79 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2293.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 00:58 EST-0500)

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December 2, 2013 7:48:40 AM

Your board (Z87) is an LGA 1150 socket, and the RAM is designed for an (Z77) LGA 1155 board; however, on the Gskill website it lists several Z87 boards which it is compatible with, so there doesn't seem to be an overall problem with that socket. Maybe they haven't updated their website. I would be more interested in why you are going for 2400MHz, unless you are into benchmarking or some exceedingly heavy multitasking, I don't think you'd need more than 1600-1866, and even then more GB's and a lower CAS latency would be worth more than higher speed. It looks like your motherboard only supports dual channel architecture even with the 4 RAM DIMM's so 2x8GB would be better than 4x4GB since it won't be running quad channel anyway and it puts less stress on the memory controller to only have 2 sticks, plus the further away sticks can sometimes perform less well, though that is a matter of opinion. What will you be using this computer for? If budget isn't an issue, why not save a little on RAM by going with a good quality 1600/1866MHZ 2x8GB setup and then put the money somewhere else. TridentX is really good RAM and it is designed more for LGA 1155 and LGA 1150 boards, it works well with Haswell processors, and for the same price you can get TridentX 1600MHz at a much lower CAS (7) or go with something else. You'd also have to be careful that at RAM with a hertz that high that your CPU can handle it and that you won't have to tweak it in BIOS to run stably on that motherboard. I'm sorry I can't say for certain, I looked around on the web and didn't find anything definite either, just people saying 'it should work' and so on. You can always look at another manufacturer if you really want to, or e-mail the manufacturer directly and ask them.

Lastly, I would point out that the G.Skill Ripjaws X are a Z87-specific RAM, they have excellent reviews and they are very well priced. They are not quite the same quality as TridentX, but they are on the QVL for the the motherboard that you have, at least on G.Skill's website.

http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-1600c9d-16gxm
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-12800cl10d-16gbxl
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-1866c9d-16gxm
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-14900cl10d-16gbxl
http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-2133c10d-16gxm

Though as always, you'll have to make sure they are compatible with your CPU and all that.

By the way, why get a 120GB and 250GB SSD, when for almost the same price you can get a 500GB HD of the same series?




Amoun said:
Hey guys, need expert advice here.
Getting a 2400 G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB ( it is a 2 x 8GB)
Memory Model: F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Tried to make sure it will be compatible. Read on the forum that this ram was actually recommended for the board bit when I went to double check it is not on the QVL list...how big of a deal will that be? Kind of breaking my head trying to find more explanation on the net.

I tried to find similar (read color and speed) GSKILL ram with 2x8g on the list, but I cant...see a lot of 4x4G rams, made me curious too about compatibility...

Basically what I am trying to figure out is: will it be a horrible idea to get this particular ram even if it is not on the QVL??
I am shooting for this 2x8 in particular because I do not need more than 16 and I like the speed of the ram and the color as well as manufacturer (goes with the build, however, the heat-sinks will have to go [for now, for a few months, till watercooling] due to large CPU cooler)

I looked at 1600 sniper series too on the QVL (actually I think it might be a better idea due to stability and not a huge difference in speed but I am not too limited on the budget so gravitated towards 2400, open to criticism on this one), but did not see anything with 2x8 for ram...confused

Open to any recommendation or soothness of paranoia lol

Build so far for those who are curious
Spoiler
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($305.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($177.89 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($186.34 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($748.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($148.00 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($179.79 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2293.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 00:58 EST-0500)


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December 2, 2013 10:07:26 AM

Very informative answer phyneas.
I agree with you on the 1600 ram. To be honest the only reason I went for 2400 is due to budget allowance and possibility of less frequent upgrades.
Definitely will go for the 2x8g ram and will take you advice on the better CAS with 1600. The computer will be used for intense graphics gaming mostly with some "hobby-like" video editing and Photoshop.

The reason for two SSDs is I like to keep things separate. I would want to use the 120 for some software and O/S, 250 for games and the mechanical drive for storage but very open to any and all suggestions (I was out of the loop in the technology for about 3-4 years so I am playing catch-up.
I really appreciate the links.....as much as I hate to admit it, it looks like I need to be taken by the hand and pointed to things due to my lagging knowledge, even if one considers my system building experience.
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December 2, 2013 10:59:09 AM

You're welcome. The build looks quite solid. As far the mechanical storage 3rd hard drive, I usually go with Western Digital as they are a bit more highly rated than Seagate, but, of course also a bit more expensive. 7200RPM and 64GB cache at SATA3 6GB/s as you have selected is just fine.

Your CPU is good if you are not planning on overclocking, if you are then I would suggest the i5-3570k - however, and it's a big however - that would require you to change the motherboard and probably the RAM as well, and I'd only suggest that if you were planning on overclocking the CPU. Your CPU should work just fine for both heavy gaming and some media work - I am presuming that you work on only one monitor.

As long as the CPU doesn't bottleneck anything, and your CPU won't, the CPU generally isn't the most important part of your graphics, that would be the GPU, and you've got pretty much the best single card GPU already, so no worries there, and with one x16 PCIe slot on your mobo it will drop in there and perform very well.

The cooler that you have is an air cooler, and the best one pretty much, but it is a bit bulky, so you have to make sure that everything else will fit in your case. Your options with water cooling would be the Zalman LQ-310/320 for around the same price, or at a higher price but not too much better performance, the Corsair H100i. They are self-contained water cooling so assuming they don't break you don't have to really do anything with/to them.

If you want to split up the SSD's then that is your preference; I do the same with 1 or 2 SSD's, a 10k RPM drive and a 7200 RPM larger drive, but the price point consideration is there for you to consider.

Cooler Master make good cases, along with Corsair, Lian-Li and Silverstone; I don't know anything about optical drives. If you add in the TridentX (assuming it works) or the Z87-specific Ripjaws X, you've got a pretty awesome build there. Enjoy.


Amoun said:
Very informative answer phyneas.
I agree with you on the 1600 ram. To be honest the only reason I went for 2400 is due to budget allowance and possibility of less frequent upgrades.
Definitely will go for the 2x8g ram and will take you advice on the better CAS with 1600. The computer will be used for intense graphics gaming mostly with some "hobby-like" video editing and Photoshop.

The reason for two SSDs is I like to keep things separate. I would want to use the 120 for some software and O/S, 250 for games and the mechanical drive for storage but very open to any and all suggestions (I was out of the loop in the technology for about 3-4 years so I am playing catch-up.
I really appreciate the links.....as much as I hate to admit it, it looks like I need to be taken by the hand and pointed to things due to my lagging knowledge, even if one considers my system building experience.


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December 2, 2013 7:24:39 PM

Thanks a lot phyneas, took both suggestions into consideration :) 
Ordering the parts tonight!!!
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December 2, 2013 8:02:42 PM

For info purposes: 2x8GB is preferable over 4x4GB there's less stress on the MC (memory controller), Trident X sets are aimed at the 1150 and Haswell, (side note you can run the sticks in slots 2-4 and also with the Tridents, if needed the upper fin is removable...could also look at the Hyper 212 EVO, costs less and cool=s on Haswell quite well up to about 4.4 at 24/7 (and the fans are height adjustable so DRAM size doesn't matter, also Ripjaws X have been around for awhile and were originally brought out for 1155 and the P67/Sandy bridge, also for info purposes the mobo QVLs are pretty worthless, see here:

http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10566

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