Looking for a new graphic card.

Socloseagain · Dec 4, 2013

Umm hey there guys , so I'm kinda looking to get a new graphics card for Christmas on which i can kinda play the new games ( like Assassin's creed black flag for example ) in high-ultra settings at least on 720p resolution and I'm twisted between a few of them : Radeon HD 7750 1gb ddr5 , Radeon HD 7790 1gb ddr5 , NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1gb ddr5. My Rig : Processor : AMD Athlon II X4 620 2.60 Ghz,4 GB RAM . U could suggest other cards aswell around that price if u think that they`ll perform better. Thanks for your answers from now!

Tom Tancredi · Dec 4, 2013

Ultra / High are normally 1080p (aka 1900x1080), not 720 (that is medium). In ANY case you need to also purchase a powerful enough PSU to power the card. That said, your CPU will let you play HIGH settings (http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html) but these new games tend to only favor, with high end video cards, i7 cores best for ULTRA settings.

Socloseagain · Dec 4, 2013

Tom Tancredi :

Ehmm,excuse me for being newbie,but my point is that i want to upgrade my graphics from an old nvidia 9600gt to some of my listed cards above , or something similiar so I could play at least as u say 720p decently.What your saying is there is no chance for that happening or what ? Thanks. Edit : My PSU is 420W.

Tom Tancredi · Dec 4, 2013

First off you have to upgrade your PSu as well (min $99 for 600W) PLUS the cost of the card. If you tried Assassin's Creed 3, BF4 etc. your processor is at the low end of the spectrum and would cause the bottleneck (why I linked the benchmarks to give you a example) which was tested with the HIGHEST end video card sold, the R9s.

Now if you select those card, you get these results http://cdn.overclock.net/9/9a/9af3fa9a_index.png which if you guage the 650 with a 660, which is the best of your selection your still only 29FPS when the video cards were tested on a i7 Core CPU. So you add the low score video cards, with low score / bottleneck CPU, and well NO you won't do well.

a1blaster · Dec 4, 2013

7790 and get yourself a 450W psu

Sangeet Khatri · Dec 4, 2013

420W PSU is enough for the low end cards like 7750,7770 and 7850 since they don't consume so much power. Hence you should be fine with 420W in my opinion.

Anyways as for the GPU. What is your budget for the GPU? For about $130 you can get the 7850 2GB GPU which is very powerful.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($127.55 @ Newegg)
Total: $127.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-04 07:27 EST-0500)

If you cannot afford the 2GB Version, then you can get the 1GB version of the same 7850 GPU for a lot more less :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $89.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-04 07:28 EST-0500)

If your budget is around @140 mark, then you can get the 7870 which is a very powerful GPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $139.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-04 07:31 EST-0500)

I hope this helps.

Socloseagain · Dec 4, 2013

Presler :

It says it's RoHS.95.ec on it , but I'm not quite sure how to answer on your second part of the question "amperes delivered on 12v rail ?", how do I check it.

Socloseagain · Dec 4, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Hello,first of all,thanks for the detailed comment!And on a second note , I dont think I can afford either of those cards becouse I was planning on buying the card from a local store in my country.Lastly , I gotta ask , is a gtx 650 1gb ddr5 gonna suit me fine for 720p gaming since it has discount from the store I'm planning on buying the card, and also does anybody know what's PSU requirements for gtx 650 since I cant find anywhere on the web.

Sangeet Khatri · Dec 4, 2013

Both 650 and 7750 perform about the same. Hence the 650 is a good GPU. It can do 720p at high @30 FPS and 1080p at Med 30 FPS. So, both are nice budget cards.

But the 7750 has a little bit advantage. The 7750 has stock configuration around 800mhz and hence it can be overclocked to upto 1Ghz to get 20% more performance increase.

So, if you are overclocking, then the 7750 is a better choice. But if you are talking about the stock speeds, then the 650 is just a little bit better. But it comes at 1.1 Ghz at stock.

Also both 7750 and 650 are very low powered cards @ just mere 50-70 W power consumption. Hence 420W PSU is going to be easily enough for them.

So let's sum it all up :

--> Both 7750 and 650 perform about the same.
--> 7750 which comes @ 800 Mhz has higher overclock potential whereas 650 comes @ 1.1Ghz (1100 Mhz) and has almost no overclocking potential.
--> Overclocking 7750 would offer performance increase upto 15-20% which is a good performance boost.
--> Both are very low powered cards, hence 420W PSU should be enough.

I hope this piece of information helps.

Socloseagain · Dec 4, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Alright ! Thanks for the vast comment once again ! One last question that I have is : Will radeon HD 7790 1gb ddr5 be slightly better than those 7750 and gtx 650 and will my PSU handle it (420W) ? Thanks in advance!

Tom Tancredi · Dec 4, 2013

Socloseagain :

Google GTX 650 Power supply gives the first result http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650/specifications which says min of 400W.

Now if you google computer watt calculator, you will find several links to input ALL the components into the calculator because your not just powering the video card, but the CPU, the memory, the mouse, etc. So this would give you the real usage. Always do NOT go Minimum, as that is usually just a 'it will turn on' only answer, not a 'yeah it works as expected' answer. You should always use recommended or add a little to the numbers (next level up) to ensure your not going to undervolt

Sangeet Khatri · Dec 6, 2013

7790 is significantly much more faster than the 7750. Hence if possible, then go for the 7790. It is really much faster than both the 650 and 7750.

Socloseagain · Dec 6, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Yes,as it would seem , I would be heading into that card's direction!Thanks for answers everyone!

hypergon · Dec 6, 2013

Your PSU is probably not good enough and rather cheap... 420w can be peak power only which would result in continuous power of something like ~300w

Sangeet Khatri · Dec 9, 2013

A 400W with 80% efficiency means that it would still deliver 400W, but take 500watts from the wall and convert only 80% of it to DC. Hence it would be and still remain 400W

Hence if a PSU says that it is of 420W, then it is of 420W unless it's capacitors are of really crap quality, then that is another thing.

But for the most part, a PSU delivers what it promises. Efficiency has nothing to do with maximum wattage possible. It is just it would waste more electricity from the wall, that is all.

hypergon · Dec 9, 2013

But for the most part, a PSU delivers what it promises. Efficiency has nothing to do with maximum wattage possible. It is just it would waste more electricity from the wall, that is all.

Not true with cheap PSU...

Sangeet Khatri · Dec 10, 2013

hypergon :

I believe, that you did not read the line above the line which you quoted. Now read it again, especially the bold part. I already mentioned that case.

A 400W with 80% efficiency means that it would still deliver 400W, but take 500watts from the wall and convert only 80% of it to DC. Hence it would be and still remain 400W

Hence if a PSU says that it is of 420W, then it is of 420W unless it's capacitors are of really crap quality, then that is another thing.

But for the most part, a PSU delivers what it promises. Efficiency has nothing to do with maximum wattage possible. It is just it would waste more electricity from the wall, that is all.

I believe, this removes the confusion.

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