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What the best componentes for a PC gamer?

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December 4, 2013 7:30:33 AM

hello. I'm new here and my english is not the best. lol
I would like to know what the best components for a pc gamer. this is the 2 parts:

Intel
- PROCESSADOR INTEL I5 4570 3.2GHZ 6MB SKT 1150 BOX
- MSI RADEON R9 270X TWINFROZR GAMING 2GB GDDR5
- MSI B85-G43 GAMING SKT 1150
- SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III 3.5
- AEROCOOL STRIKE-X ONE ADVANCE USB 3.0
- SAMSUNG DVDRW 22X SATA SH-224BB
- KINGSTON PC3-12800 1600MHZ 8GB XMP BEAST CL9 (2X4GB) DDR3
- CORSAIR CX-600W 80PLUS BRONZE

or

AMD
- PROCESSADOR AMD FX-6300 3.5 GHZ BULLDOZER 6-COREBLACK EDITION SKT AM3+ 95W BOXED
- ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0
- G.SKILL PC3-14900 1866MHZ 8GB SNIPER CL9 (2X4GB) DDR3
- COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 EVO
- MSI RADEON R9 270X TWINFROZR GAMING 2GB GDDR5
- CORSAIR CX-600W 80PLUS BRONZE
- SAMSUNG DVDRW 22X SATA SH-224BB
- SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III 3.5
- AEROCOOL STRIKE-X ONE ADVANCE USB 3.0


These are the two options I have.
The PC is for games like BF4, and other new games. I want a PC at least for 3 years, on hight/ultra sttings or only high after 3 years.
Which do you think is better to gaming?
You can switch to other components if better to play.
The price is around 700 euros.

Thanks

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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 7:34:30 AM

The i5 will be better for gaming.
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December 4, 2013 7:42:18 AM

But you change any component or not?
And I with that CPU and mobo can do oc later? Small oc, not extreme. i cant do that on non-k CPU.
And for games like BF4 and games that will come out next year, its not better a CPU with more cores like fx 6300?
And its to play on 1920x1080 full HD.
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 7:49:28 AM

The i5-4670K is still better than the FX-6300 and usually better than the FX-8350 even in games where more cores are used. You cannot overclock on that i5 but you could change out the CPU for the 3570K if on a Z77 motherboard and 4670K on a Z87 motherboard. Without changing parts, the second build is the only one able to be overclocked.

The biggest problem with these builds is the 270X, which is not nearly as powerful as some of the latest cards.

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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 7:52:52 AM


BF4 is all about the video card.

Presumably, with the FX-6300 you should have additional funds to put toward your graphics card.

As the systems are currently built (each with the MSI 270X), the performance will be almost identical.

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December 4, 2013 8:03:31 AM

But the problem is the price that increase if change the graphics card. LOL that GPU not best i know but in reviews all said its a good card for the money and a big suprise for the price thats why i chose.
The intel parts already is more expansive then amd parts so if i switch for a i5 3570k and a z77 mobo that will increase the price even more.
The only parts i can siwtch are CPU, Mobo.
on current build - AMD - about 200euros (CPU and mobo)
Intel- about 270 euros (CPU and mobo)

If oc is it worth the money you pay, you can tell cpu and mobo to choose?
Or if without doing OC i have a computer for 3/4 years what CPU and Mobo can i chose?

Sorry but iam very confuse about that to parts.....:/
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 8:13:26 AM

Get a 7950 if it is available at your store. If the price drops were applied to your country as well, then you can find the 7950 for about the same price as the 270x. The 7950 is a much better GPU.

It all depends on luck. If you are able to find the 7950, then that is fine, otherwise the 270x is also a nice card. I would recommend the i5 build more. i5+270x would perform better than the FX 6300 + 270x.

i5 is a better CPU for gaming than the FX 6300, whatever game that might be.

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- PROCESSADOR AMD FX-6300 3.5 GHZ BULLDOZER 6-COREBLACK EDITION SKT AM3+ 95W BOXED


Anyways, one thing does not look right in that build. The FX 6300 is not a Bulldozer CPU. It is based on the Piledriver architecture. Bulldozer architecture sucks. Either it is the Piledriver in the name in place of Bulldozer or otherwise it is the Fx 6100 in place of FX 6300.

Fx 6100 - Bulldozer
FX 6300 - Piledriver.



Hence make sure that the CPU is not based on Bulldozer as Bulldozer architecture is one of the most inefficient and bad architecture which was a complete failure. The Piledriver on the other hand is a much better architecture than the Bulldozer.
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December 4, 2013 8:22:51 AM

That must be a mistake because all fx 6300 are piledrive and fx 6100 are bulldozer. So maybe a mistake from the store.
Also the store only have the HD 7970 not the 7950 LOL

If the i5 better for gaming even then a fx 8320, then can tell me what Cpu and mobo for ate least 3/4 years and that can handle a better GPU if i change mine after a while.
Can tell me a OC CPU and mobo - good for the price.....if i OC is normal OC not extreme.
And can tell me for no OC Cpu and mobo - good for the price.

Thanks
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 8:40:30 AM

8320 is a nice CPU if you are intending to overclock. An 8320 is just same as 8350, it is just clocked lower. So, you can manually up the clock speeds. Hence if you are intending to overclock, then the 8320 is an awesome choice. In newer games, the 8 cores are starting to show some advantage. Hence if you are overclocking, then the 8320 is a better option.

But if you are not overclocking, then nothing beats the i5. It is better to stock speeds.

So, the answer depends on whether you are overclocking or not.
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December 4, 2013 8:53:56 AM

If i get a fx 8320 i think to OC i need a better PSU also and cost more and the CPU cost more.....lol
So i put the fx 6300 because its the case with fx8320/8350 (fx6300/6350) lower clock only, but the fx 6300 is 95w and fx 6350 is 125w, so i heard 95w is better to oc, less power, less heat.

But if i OC the fx6300 (air cooler) it will beat the intel parts that i chose?
If not beat a i5 at stock speeds then its better get an i5.
The other thing is the cores, i5 in one year for exemple will be able to do the same job (better the fx 6300) or not?

My big question is about cpu and mobo....i dont want SLI/crossfire, and that graphics card is good for now, if after 1 year or 2 years it can not handle games on resolution and settings that i want i will buy a new one.

Iam very confuse about the Cpu and mobo to get, for a 3/4 years computer, and able to handle better graphics card if i take a better new one.
If you guys can help me to chose these parts i I was grateful.
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 9:03:00 AM

No, i5 at stock speeds is better than the overclocked FX 6300. Better stick with Intel rig if you are getting a FX 6300. Intel rig would perform better.

Also, you won't need to get a better PSU for overclocking. 600W Corsair PSU is plenty for Overclocking.

As for the GPU. Yes, you might need to buy a new one after 2 years. But later then you can have more powerful GPU because the Graphcis only evolve.

No, you would not need to buy a new PC. Some upgrades would make your rig good for another 2-3 years whenever you upgrade in the future.
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December 4, 2013 2:07:14 PM

so if the i5 at stock speed is better then a fx 6300 OC i can buy a i5 with a mobo and dont do OC.
The AMD parts are right if i want OC right?
So if i go to Intel side what CPU and Mobo i must buy? For not OC.
And about the PSU if i dont do OC a 500w is enough for Intel i5 and r9 270x? And it is enough if after a year i put for exemple a r9 290x?
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December 4, 2013 4:15:12 PM

No one help?
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 4:32:41 PM


It's your video card
It's your video card
It's your video card
(is there an echo in here :) )

My advice is to choose the FX6300 and put that extra 70 euros toward your video card.

In the US, that is roughly the price difference between the R9 270X and the R9 280X, or, a rough (estimate) improvement of 25+% with your 'eye candy' turned up.

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December 4, 2013 5:05:48 PM

Iam on Portugal LOL...
A fx 6300 with r9 280x or a gtx 760 the PSU (600w) is enough, even doing OC?
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a b 4 Gaming
December 4, 2013 5:27:37 PM


600w with 2 x 6+2-pin is great.

Anandtech R9 280X review (with GTX 760)

The 280X pulls 15-20 more watts, but runs 15-20C cooler. Beats up on the GTX760 quite well (except in games that favor nVidia where it pretty much runs even).



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December 4, 2013 5:33:23 PM

I sugest the Gtx 760 because its better then r9 270x and less expensive then r9 280x....but i will think about it....lol
The diference in price between the r9 270x and 2780x is around 90 euros, more then 100 dollares....:/
If i can i will go with r9 280x but between r9 270x and gtx 760 its better the gtx 760 right?
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a b 4 Gaming
December 6, 2013 5:16:25 AM

Go with FX 6300 + 280x. It would be about the same price as the i5 + 760 but the AMD one would perform better.

The 280x has many advantages over the 760, mainly due to it's better performance and more VRAM and of course a 50% wider memory bus. Also 280x has a lot of overclocking potential. So, you can overclock the hell out of that Tahiti GPU to yeild ever better performance.

Hence FX 6300 + 280x would be my pick (if you can afford it.)
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