Basic 4K Video Editing system only....no gaming

Trone · Dec 5, 2013

Just want to edit 4K footage from a Sony FDR-AX1 4K camcorder using Sony Vegas Pro 12 which came with the camera. Any thoughts on building a budget system from scratch to edit and someday use a 4K monitor? Have a 2560 x 1440 monitor now. Don't do any gaming at all, just video editing in 4K now in place of HD for personal use.

mastrom101 · Dec 5, 2013

It really depends on your budget:

Expensive-Recommended-Budget
4930K - 4770K - 4670K
32 GB - 16 GB - 8 Gb

How much are you looking to spend?

iceclock · Dec 5, 2013

whats ur budget and country of origin

anbello262 · Dec 5, 2013

Also, how much patience do you have?
If it's only for personal video editing, maybe you can handle waiting a couple of hours for a video to be ready, or maybe you want the video to be finished in less time than it's playtime.
How fast do you want the PC to be?

Trone · Dec 5, 2013

I'm in the U.S. My budget is around $1500 or so. I have been going through hell with my old system just trying to play back the files from the Sony FDR-AX1. Pretty damn choppy regardless of what PC Video player I try, and then I need to edit those 4k files.

Trone · Dec 5, 2013

I've been editing for many years so I have a lot of experience using several NLE's. I can walk away from a project as it renders even if it takes and hour to use Twixtor in Sony Vegas Pro to get 20 seconds of super slo mo video.

My current system is a Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz 4 GB of RAM 64-bit operating system. Using a Nvidia GeForce GT 440 graphics card. Also using Windows 7 Home premium.

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

alright do u need windows. keyboard. monitor?

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($157.52 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($167.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.13 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($350.50 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1428.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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here u go mate.

mikerockett · Dec 6, 2013

Ice clocks build is nice but i think it's terribly lacking in space. 4k videos will eat through that 1tb pretty damn quick. I'd consider a bigger storage drive.

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

alright will do that.

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($157.52 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($167.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($264.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1442.33
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Trone · Dec 6, 2013

I appreciate all the feedback for my setup for 4K video editing.

iceclock, I do not need windows, keyboard, monitor.

You feel confident that setup will be able to handle the 4K files using Sony Vegas Pro 12 then?

I did live chat with a nvidia rep last night and the rep said to use the Quadro lineup of video cards. Differing opinions on what to use I see?

Or should I just go for broke and use the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti? I only want to do this once, and make it last for at least 3-4 years as I've had my current system for 4-5 years.

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

well quadros are nice but will kill ur budget.

u could get the 780ti or 780 and be happy with that.

how much more u ready to invest on the 1500.

Trone · Dec 6, 2013

$2000 is my limit. I just need to know the new setup is not going to choke while editing the 4k files. I made the move to HD camcorders almost 8 years ago, and now want to future proof by going 4K.

I find the 4K to be sharper than HD in this photo I took.

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

it wont choke 4physical cores+4logical cores is the stuff my man. nice camera.

heres a better one with 6 cores. 80$ over but we.

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CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.26 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($244.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($157.52 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($167.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1995.59
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Trone · Dec 6, 2013

iceclock,

Thanks. Hoping to get some great footage this weekend shooting track & field with the new camera.

I really appreciate your feedback. This is the info I was after by coming to this site, since the PC stuff is not my top expertise. After checking those video card recommendations I will make sure that my choice includes the ability to output 4K video and not 2560x1600 as the max output. Might as well have that covered since I know I will pull the trigger on a 4k monitor this year as Dell announced the lower pricing on their new 4k monitors.

iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

well the 4 gig 680 is a powerful card and will get that done

mastrom101 · Dec 6, 2013

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($539.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($162.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($255.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1656.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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iceclock · Dec 6, 2013

thats discontinued the 7950 and nvidia known for better processing power in video editing.

also best do 2x8gb so later can add another 16 gigs of ram.

and gonna require more power sir.

but good try

mastrom101 · Dec 6, 2013

iceclock :

The 7950 is actually a great card for the price, definitely a better value than the 680.

The X79 platform is optimized for quad channel RAM, and since there are 8 slots, an upgrade is still possible.

Also both PSUs are adequate. There's only a 4 amp difference on the 12V rail

iceclock · Dec 7, 2013

Nvidia is known for quadro sand high end cards. Also the 680 is stronger in video apps than the discontinued 7950

Trone · Dec 9, 2013

I'll be trying to put something together this month with all the info that has been provided.

sportfreak23 · Dec 9, 2013

Editing the 2 builds I would go with something like this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($576.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($244.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1965.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Did the 4930k jump in price when i made this build or is it just me o.o

Quad channel set for memory at 1866mhz is nicer with a x79. And I think wouldn't a gtx 770 be better then a 680? And this case has a window. I think WD blacks would be better and more reliable as with a samsung EVO SSD

wshinn · Dec 9, 2013

I would also consider playback after your project. If your editing a 4k video that will be played for a presentation on another computer, that computer will also need to have a nice setup. I love shooting 4k video projects but technology hasn't quite caught up to its resolution yet at the consumer level. You can edit/shoot a beautiful project and chances are you will only have 2k resolution out of. So you need to measure your return on investment to see if your actually receiving what your goal is.

Trone · Dec 9, 2013

Well, couple things just came up so my budget will be no more than $1500 again.

I already have a couple of external drives with 1TB each which is enough to get me going unless there needs to be a particular brand that works better with 4K files?

iceclock: I'm going to concentrate on the processor and the video card, so I can't really say I'm going with one build or another.

wshinn: I understand what you are saying, I know most of the time I will be dropping down to 1080p for presentation, and I knew that going in before I bought the camera. Just want to be future proof for down the road.

iceclock · Dec 9, 2013

alright.

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($162.95 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1548.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-09 18:43 EST-0500)

closer to ur budget

Basic 4K Video Editing system only....no gaming

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