NEED HELP (Major Problems) !!!!! MSI P67A-GD55

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Note: Please do note that the thread will have big wall of text here, its about my PC and I'm trying to fix it, while i will try to keep it short and understandable please do read it anyway.

Now I don't usually put names in threads like this or wanting a attention to minor problems, this is a serious one and i need all of your guys help.

The thread will be split into First and Second Time the problem has occurred so it will be easier for you guys to understand.

First Time
Okay before a month ago my computer was running fine and i played games constantly checked for viruses (nothing detected) and the PC was in perfect shape.

Then after a few days it for an unknown reason started to BOOT UP everytime i turn it off, this wasnt a problem, only a minor annoyance.
But the thing is, i had to turn it off always through electricity switch, or plug out cables.

Then after reading for a couple of while in the motherboard manual it said that if system has some problems that it's best to update your BIOS for performance improvement.
Then after visiting the official MSI website (for my motherboard), i downloaded the latest BIOS version and followed the instructions CAREFULLY.

So after i plugged in my USB and ran the BIOS update it said it will restart my PC a FEW times and that i should not plug out my USB stick because it will cancel the BIOS update, and if it fails that it may cause system instability.
So after it shutdown, the main problem of this thread began to start.

The PC kept restarting CONSTANTLY, meaning that I know that it should restart a FEW times, so I left it for my PC for a full hour thinking it was all part of the BIOS update.
After an hour the PC still kept restarting, so i thought that the problem causer is that whole "Restarting after a Shutdown" thingy.

Then the next day, I turned on my PC to see will it boot up, then next thing you know it started to boot and it said "Updating BIOS please do not remove the USB stick", yes it was already removed, so i panicked that it would work if the USB is unplugged.
Then i quickly plugged in the USB and guess what, the BIOS update stopped immediately as i plugged it in.
Then i waited a bit thinking that it may continue, but again after a hour it did not work so i shut it down now.

Now the problem was when i turn my PC on it starts the fans (meaning it turned on) and then immediately shutdowns following the same "Reboot when Shutdown" procedure, so it turns out in an endless loop of power on/off, unless i plug out the cables.

So after a while my friend knows a guy who is a PC Expert, and then later i sent the PC to him while also putting a note that said "BIOS Update Failed, Please RESET CMOS and try again".
After a couple of days i asked my friend how does he do it, he said he has some BIOS recovery/repairing tool that fixes it.

So after about a week i got my PC back and guess what, it works flawlessly with no reboot when shutdown, the only thing that i needed to fix was the date and clock, since it was back on the day i installed my PC.
And that is the end of this "First Time" thing.

Second Time
Now after a couple of days the problem began to appear again, that "Reboot after Shutdown"

But now its worse, because once i started my PC normally, it was going all the way up to Welcome screen with sound on and then suddenly black screen on monitor.

I checked my GPU and guess what, the fans are not working but it was being a little warm on that main board of GPU the one where it has connectors to PCI-E slot.

Now the thing is I know that GPU is working fine because i tested it with other GPU i have, but the thing is it still doesnt show the screen picture but it fans are working, so once again i think that it's the motherboards fault.

But i tried everything, clearing CMOS battery air-dusting the GPU and motherboard changing the PCI-E Slot, but the thing is now the whole "Reboot after Shutdown" thing became worse because, as soon as the cable is plugged in or there is electricity going on, it instantly boots up and then instantly shutdowns following the regular boot, unlike at First time when i could boot it up myself.

So i took it at my friends friend which he currently is trying to fix the whole "Reboot after Shutdown" thing, and he said that there is a electricity problem, and that he is trying to identify the problem.

But at first time i didnt even mention this reboot problem because as soon as he repaired the BIOS the problem was gone.

So should i tell him to do it again ?
I know its alot of text and i wouldnt blame you if you were confused , but please try to help me guys, i have not been planning to buy any other PC component until next year because i will upgrade it whole so if it is avoidable to buy a new motherboard, i would be very grateful to you guys.

Please help me.

Thanks.
 
Indeed the problem by the look of it has to do with your PSU.

It depends on the brand and quality of your PSU.
A cheap one will cause you all sorts of problems like you describe.

A half decent PSU should provide power features.
Over voltage, protection.
Ripple protection.
Auto shutdown fault protection
Overheating protection.
Short circuit protection.

If for example you shut the system down and it fails to power off fully, it is a sign that one of the circuits is faulty or failing.

You have to remember that the PSU is the root component of any system.
So start from the route.

Unstable power output or glitches in smooth power feed can lead to all manner of problems.

PSU`s degrade over use and time.
So if you factor it was fine, then degraded it is likely the route cause.

Its logic if the system was stable for a set time.
Then it became more evident and more pronounced as time when by during use.

If it has not been tried then, test with a good known working PSU.
See if the problem goes away.

If it fails to get a result, then the possible other cause is bad capacitors that are on the motherboard it`s self.

You can tell if you have bad caps by looking at them if the electrolytic type because they will be domed on the top of them.

It means they are leaking and failing.
Were if fine all of the top of the caps should be flat.
The causes can be excess heat, causing leakage of the fluid inside.
They can be replaced if you know what you are doing.

But if the case then the board needs to be replaced as it is the cause of improper power distribution.


 
You may not have to buy a new motherboard.
Try the system with another PSU first.
Get your friend or some one to test it with a spare or another good known working one first.
Confirm it is the problem.

Then move on to the motherboard it`s self.