[AMD or Intel] Planning an upgrade, any advices are welcomed [~430$]

Ficiani

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Alright guys, I am planning an upgrade for my PC for Christmas, and I've been searching through the Internet a lot but I still can't make up my mind.
I'll try to make this post very readable and not just some wall of text. Thanks for your time and help, in advance.

What I have right now: (Everything's from 2008 except the GPU)
1. ASUS P5QL Pro 775 socket Motherboard
2. RAM 4GB Corsair
3. Intel Q9400 2.66GHz
4. Radeon HD5870 1GB
5. Spire Jewel 650W (Its one of those heavy ones, I don't know its true power nor efficency but I know it was pretty expensive back in 2008)

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Since I live in a "second-world country" I will ONLY list the prices of the parts at the stores in my country and nowhere else. Please note that I'm looking to build as cheaper as much PC, with a decent performance. If you can find some else/similar products such as new RAM or Mobo that you think its a good deal, please share.


* Possible new build #1.
• AMD FX8320 AM3+ socket - 139 EUR. / 190$
• Gigabyte 970A-DS3P, AM3+ - 61 EUR. / 83$
• Patriot DDR3 2x4GB RAM - 53 EUR. / 79$
TOTAL: 267 EUR. / 365$

* Possible new build #2. (No overclock)
• Intel i5 - 4670 LGA 1150 socket - 202 EUR. / 276$
• Gigabyte H87M LGA 1150 socket - 78 EUR. / 106$
• Patriot DDR3 2x4GB RAM - 53 EUR. / 79$
TOTAL: 333 EUR. / 455$

* Possible new build #3. (Overclock possible)
• Intel i5 - 4670K LGA 1150 socket - 206 EUR. / 281$
• Gigabyte Z87M LGA 1150 socket - 92 EUR. / 125$
• Patriot DDR3 2x4GB RAM - 53 EUR. / 79$
TOTAL: 352 EUR. / 480$


Now, I want to use my PC mainly for gaming AND for rendering in the future. As well as some editing (Adobe programs, PS, Illustrator, Indesign, After Effects and Autodesk Maya).

Since I don't know much about hardware, I will list some of my thoughts and understandings about the stuff and I'm looking forward for your opinions, feedback and suggestions.


+ Advantages of using AMD configuration: Fairly cheap price for the performance that it gives. Would last for at least 3 years without having problems to run latest stuff out there. Cheaper then Intel but gives similar performances (a bit lower). I'd call this configuration a perfect road with a dead end.

- Disadvantages of using AMD configuration: Pretty old and somewhat "dead" AM3+ socket, no more production of FX CPUs, when I'll want to upgrade in future I'll be having a hard time with selling the products (price will be very cheap). If I'd want an upgrade, I'll have to buy new mobo for the new socket and of course a new CPU.

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+ Advantages of using Intel configuration: Pretty new 1150 socket that will last at least 1-2 years more. Keeps the price about the same even if it gets older. In the future, I could sell it for ~60% of the price. If I'd like to do an upgrade in the future, I won't need new mobo, most likely (i7 CPUs). Easier to find buyers, generally better architecture.

- Disadvantages of using Intel configuration: Fairly more expensive configuration for almost similar performances AT THE MOMENT. (costs 117$ more).



Now its up to you guys to tell me what you think, and after, we should discuss about the PSU.
 
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Rendering is one of the few applications at which AMD can match or outperform Intel. Games are generally more dependent on the graphics card, so even a slower AMD CPU is able to perform adequately in ALL modern games.
The $85 difference between Build #1+cooler and Build#3 will provide significantly more money for a better graphics card, so even in games, Build#1+cooler+graphics card is likely to outperform Build#3+cheaper graphics card.
It is true that the AMD system will run warmer and use more power. Unless your electric rates are extremely high though, worrying about that difference on a single PC (an office building full of them would of course be different) is an example of what we call "penny wise and pound foolish."
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Since you specifically mention rendering, you may find that the AMD build can match the Intel system. Considering that it is the only one of the three that is within your stated budget of $430, I think you will be satisfied with it. For games, you might want a graphics card upgrade sooner rather than later (even a GTX650Ti Boost or HD7850 are each slightly better than what you have), so saving money toward something like a HD7870 makes more sense from a performance perspective.
You may want to add a $30-$40 cooler like a Xigmatek Gaia so you can overclock.
 

Ficiani

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Alright, thanks for the answer buddy. However, I'd like to ask you what you think about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 cooler? Can it "fit" into AM3+ socket?
 

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In a long term I think you should get build No.3. You will save money in long term and have a upgrade to your system without any problems. Not to mention that if you overclock i5 k you will get uncomparable performance. I love AMD but at the moment Intel has a better processor with better technology.
When you do rendering CPU is used 100% that = heat you will need cooler CPU and that is Intel. If you use AMD you should buy a better cooler and there is the difference in the price.
 
Rendering is one of the few applications at which AMD can match or outperform Intel. Games are generally more dependent on the graphics card, so even a slower AMD CPU is able to perform adequately in ALL modern games.
The $85 difference between Build #1+cooler and Build#3 will provide significantly more money for a better graphics card, so even in games, Build#1+cooler+graphics card is likely to outperform Build#3+cheaper graphics card.
It is true that the AMD system will run warmer and use more power. Unless your electric rates are extremely high though, worrying about that difference on a single PC (an office building full of them would of course be different) is an example of what we call "penny wise and pound foolish."
I don't mean to sound like an AMD fanboy; my primary system is Intel, and 3/4 of my working systems are Intel. Given that the OP has stated a budget however, the AMD option is the only one that meets it; and it will perform adequately in the intended tasks. A similarly-priced Intel option, using an i3, will likely perform as well in most games and better in some, but will be beaten silly in rendering. Do consider this choice if a future upgrade to an i7 is a likely possibility, for superior gaming and similar render performance to the AMD rig.
 
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This is basically what I wanted to hear, especially the bold thing. If nobody suggests anything else by tomorrow, I will choose this answer as the solution.
EDIT: Thanks all of you for the answers! Appreciate it.