First Time Builder, High End Gaming Rig

sefton

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Really appreciate any input, I'm open to any and all suggestions, have been dreaming of a new build for about 2 years now and it has gotten to the point where the need is justified and I finally have the money for it.

Approximate Purchase Date: January

Budget Range: able to go as high as $2700, my wife spent that much on her mac (against my advice because she only plays WoW, but she does enjoy video editing), so I can match what her budget was.

System Usage: Gaming, everything from WoW to BF4 to RTS games like SC2, CoH2 and the new Command and Conquer Generals 2 if that ever drops. Also for movies, TV, and amateur video editing.

Are you buying a monitor: already have 2 1920x1200 Viewsonic monitors, want to replace one with a 1440p monitor in the near future after I have a new rig.Which is a better brand, Acer or Asus? Don't think I could fit 3 monitors on my desk at home and I could bring the oldest one into my office at work.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, planning on Windows 8.1 64-bit

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I've just been using pcpartpicker to experiment with builds, I'll go wherever the deals are

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Parts Preferences:
Nvidia and Intel, just cause I'm a creature of habit, and because on gpuboss Nvidia cards seem to post better benchmarks.
Has to be a mid-tower case to fit in my home office
Was thinking an Asus motherboard because I've heard their BIOS is great and easy, the sabertooth looks nice.
I really have no idea what would be the best RAM for gaming, I like to future proof
RAM ( even thinking 5 years if not more) so maybe 16gb, I figure if BF4 suggested requirements are already 8gb and I like to multitask then I think it would be worth it.
Already have great speakers, keyboard, and mouse.

Overclocking: Yes, never done it before though

SLI or Crossfire: I want to keep the option open with this build to go SLI down the road

Your Monitor Resolution: Currently I have 2 1920x1200 monitors, want my build to be able to handle 1440p for when I eventually upgrade a monitor.

Why Are You Upgrading: I have a 7 year old Alienware that can't keep up anymore and I've had to replace failing parts, for WoW in Raids my FPS drops to below 10 at times, have to run everything on lowest settings for CoH2 and it is still slow, also want to get back into FPS especially with BF4, so I will need a build that has the CPU for WoW and RTS games and the GPU for ultra setting FPS games. I definitely want to get a 250 to 500 gb SSD, was looking at the samsung 840 Evo because my load times for everything are so horrible now.

I'm willing to spend extra so as to future proof, want this build to be able to last as well as my alienware has.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, sorry if it was too long, really appreciate any suggestions. Quite excited to be building for the first time but I do worry about my DIY ability in general.
 
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In my opinion there is no point in choosing the i7-4820k, it behaves just like the i7-4770k but the motherboard will be much more expensive. If you're going for an Ivy Bridge-E build then the i7-4930k should be the option, but, again, these kind of processors are really pointless if the only thing you're doing is playing games.

Now, if you're...

PepitoTV

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Love the "now I can match her budget" part... *ahem*

For that kind of budget you can certainly get a top notch gaming system, take this as a suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($221.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($727.27 @ TigerDirect)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2183.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-06 18:28 EST-0500)
 

sefton

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truth be told I didn't giver her much push back on her choice of Mac because then I knew I could spend a lot on my next computer down the road...

I go back and forth on the i7-4770k and the i7-4820k, they are about the same price and cpuboss gives higher marks to the 4820k for OC, but I know hyperthreading is pretty pointless for gaming, but I saw somewhere CoH2 does use hyperthreading
 
This is near your price range. imho you should at least consider to buy this stunning monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 54.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($162.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($519.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3014 60Hz 30.0" Monitor ($1079.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2831.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-06 18:44 EST-0500)
 

sefton

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say I downgraded to an i5 4670k and a gtx 770 so I could get that dell monitor and be under $2700, would that build be able to handle new games like BF4 on ultra settings at a resolution of 2560 x 1600?
 

PepitoTV

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In my opinion there is no point in choosing the i7-4820k, it behaves just like the i7-4770k but the motherboard will be much more expensive. If you're going for an Ivy Bridge-E build then the i7-4930k should be the option, but, again, these kind of processors are really pointless if the only thing you're doing is playing games.

Now, if you're dropping a grand in the monitor, then your pc will suffer a bit, but we can take another approach, look at this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($519.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3014 60Hz 30.0" Monitor ($1079.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2701.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-07 00:45 EST-0500)

This is very similar to what filippi suggested, in the sense of downgrading the 780 Ti to a 780, I further tweaked the build to get to your initial budget. I did add too a PSU big enough to add a second card in the future to really be able to max out every single game at this resolution.
 
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sefton

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that is a very very good option, but for some reason I feel hesitant only because I've never spent that much on a monitor before let alone even that much on my living room TV... hmmm, considering I'll use it literally everyday its probably worth it considering my budget. I'm also trying to do the math on how many games I could fit on that SSD + windows 8. I would imagine a single 780 would handle WoW and CoH2 just fine on a monitor that size, but BF4 on ultra settings, thats another question, guess I have to google benchmarks now because I'm sure someone already thought of it. I feel like a pompous ass debating these questions, good problems to have I guess. I really appreciate all this input pepitotv and filippi! still have a week or two to plan.
 

sefton

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this might be too specific of a question but what would it take to run BF4 on ultra settings getting at least 60+ FPS, if not better, on a Asus PB278Q,would lose three inches on size compared to the HP you suggested but its 2560x1440 with a good refresh rate for gaming and 300 cd/m²... a 770 4gb, 780, or 780ti?

also whatever the new monitor is there is going to be a 1920x1080 24in Viewsonic with it running as a dual display
 

Kylar

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Are the monitors your suggesting touch screen? Confused as to why they are so expensive. T.V.s for sale on black Friday will do the same thing and you could probably get 120Hz one's as well. Do you really want a touch screen because with a shell program Windows 8 is a lot better anyhow? Also, you could also get a monster GPU if you were willing to downgrade on monitors. If you mostly just play wow I would stick with a single high end card because SLI will be worse than a single card because their engine is Ancient. Windows 8 is going to cost more than those people listed though unless you have some sort of student upgrade or some such. Might also want to purchase the boot disc for it later just in case.