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why are haswell processors so much more expensive?

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December 6, 2013 5:19:04 PM

I just got a k450 lenovo pc from best buy a couple months ago for $599. I know all you builders will not like it, but it has the latest gen i5 4430 processor in it. 1 terabyte drive. case. peripherals. 8 gb dd3 memory etc....

I used to build my gaming machines myself and would price everything out on pricewatch and get 4-5 years out of them but i'm older and it wasn't really worth the hastle to me.

It has a gt630 2gb nvidia card in it which is the only drawback but the motherboard and powersupply are 500 watt and set up where i can upgrade to a new graphics card no problem.

Just was pricing out the parts on newegg and what i got if i price it out was actually less if i bought the parts myself off newegg and put it together.

But just noticing the amd processors are less than the new haswell processors. But in benchmarks the i5's are pretty consistant across the board. Somewhere in the middle as far as top of the line stuff right now....


I'm going to put a new graphics card in this but just wondering why this processor is more expensive?

Best Buy actually had a good deal though.....

Pricing it out at newegg though

processor-$200
motherboard-$75
case-$100
drives-$100
peripherals-$50
memory-$100

just rough estimate but it's the same. more expensive actually.

This also came with windows 8 installed which is a big plus.

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December 6, 2013 5:46:35 PM

CPU prices are based on demand along with some legal (and non-legal) tactics by intel. AMD PCs don't sell as well so there is less demand by mass PC builders like Dell, HP, lenovo, etc.,

P.S. your prices on newegg are far off as lenovo does not use $100 memory or cases and their mobos are hardly $75
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December 6, 2013 5:54:33 PM

simple answer is that even though Intel processor is more expensive, you are still buying it.
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December 6, 2013 5:58:14 PM

i used to build pc's with amd processors though and buy the specific parts i wanted. the thing is you say they aren't $100 cases and motherboards etc.. But i actually had more issues buying a motherboard that was said to be this or that and have it fry on me then i've had with my last 2 prebuilt pcs. I just have to look for one that is upgradeable....... also ddr3 8gb memory is ddr3 8gb memory no matter who the manufacturer is...... Yeah they probably get it cheaper ebcause they mass buy it but it's the same thing.

The same with the case really. i actually like the case.... If it fits who cares? Some of the generic cases are really ugly.

I would have rathered an amd processor in all honesty but this was a good deal i thought.
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December 6, 2013 6:06:18 PM

celtic34 said:
i used to build pc's with amd processors though and buy the specific parts i wanted. the thing is you say they aren't $100 cases and motherboards etc.. But i actually had more issues buying a motherboard that was said to be this or that and have it fry on me then i've had with my last 2 prebuilt pcs. I just have to look for one that is upgradeable....... also ddr3 8gb memory is ddr3 8gb memory no matter who the manufacturer is...... Yeah they probably get it cheaper ebcause they mass buy it but it's the same thing.

The same with the case really. i actually like the case.... If it fits who cares? Some of the generic cases are really ugly.

I would have rathered an amd processor in all honesty but this was a good deal i thought.


I don't think anyone really cares what you do tbh. I mean, if you prefer buying a premade computer more power to you.
Now, obviously the components aren't the same regardless of what you may think; 8gb of ddr3 memory is NOT all the same but whatever, to each their own. Some people drive BMWs to work, other people say four wheels and an engine, a cars a car and drive Kias to work. To each their own.
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December 6, 2013 6:07:39 PM

1. im not against pre-built PCs, i think they make prefect sense for a lot of people
2. you should have less issues with pre-builts out of the box since they are tested to work in order to install the SW. down the road may be a different story as they use cheaper parts
3. 8GB of 1600mhz ram which your IdeaCentre uses starts at $50 on newegg, not $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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December 6, 2013 6:12:38 PM

Deuce65 said:


Some people drive BMWs to work, other people say four wheels and an engine, a cars a car and drive Kias to work. To each their own.


i ride a dinosaur



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December 6, 2013 6:27:29 PM

dirtyferret said:
1. im not against pre-built PCs, i think they make prefect sense for a lot of people
2. you should have less issues with pre-builts out of the box since they are tested to work in order to install the SW. down the road may be a different story as they use cheaper parts
3. 8GB of 1600mhz ram which your IdeaCentre uses starts at $50 on newegg, not $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


It was more just a rough estimate. Are there any advantages to the haswell processor over amd though besides it just being more expensive? Why would anyone buy intel other than the name if it's really not any better. I just got this not because it had an intel processor but beecause it was basically the same price. Yes I could finagle maybe a few dollars here and but building it I didn't really see the advantage. With windows 8 preinstalled and a warrenty and everything it was basically teh same and the parts i wanted anyways. I could have maybe got the exact mb, processor, memory, drives i wanted but i've done that in the past. I didn't see a huge difference. It was there. I bought it.
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December 6, 2013 6:33:46 PM

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/ideacentre/k-seri...

They have higher end models too. But for gaming purposes they look nice and are pretty well priced. Mine was $599 and the base model. I could have gotten one with an i7 and better graphics too which i could swap it out for....

it's pretty nice.... $1000 for the i7 with a nice graphics card. I got the i5 and am just going to put a better graphics card in it which should equal less than $800.
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December 7, 2013 8:19:16 AM

celtic34 said:
dirtyferret said:
1. im not against pre-built PCs, i think they make prefect sense for a lot of people
2. you should have less issues with pre-builts out of the box since they are tested to work in order to install the SW. down the road may be a different story as they use cheaper parts
3. 8GB of 1600mhz ram which your IdeaCentre uses starts at $50 on newegg, not $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


It was more just a rough estimate. Are there any advantages to the haswell processor over amd though besides it just being more expensive? Why would anyone buy intel other than the name if it's really not any better. I just got this not because it had an intel processor but beecause it was basically the same price. Yes I could finagle maybe a few dollars here and but building it I didn't really see the advantage. With windows 8 preinstalled and a warrenty and everything it was basically teh same and the parts i wanted anyways. I could have maybe got the exact mb, processor, memory, drives i wanted but i've done that in the past. I didn't see a huge difference. It was there. I bought it.


Of course there's a difference between intel and AMD that accounts for the price difference - for the most part, the intel performs better. They have much stronger cores than AMD which are better for most of today's apps that only use 1-4 cores. AMD (sometimes) has more cores but they're weaker, use more power, produce more heat, but are cheaper, and perform very well - it's just that architecturally the intel's ARE better. In everyday usage, you won't notice a difference between them. These intel vs AMD debates only tend to occur in the high-end market or the gaming crowd.
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