Need help with Low fps on some games.
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kafungalung
December 6, 2013 11:33:17 PM
Here is my current rig:
750w power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 460 Superclocked 1gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom X6 1090T black edition 3.2GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8gigs DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 880G micro ATX motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
My Case is complete **** as 2 of the fans are currently not working messing up my cooling so i have a house fan as a temp solution to that problem for now.
MY ISSUE is that even before the fans went in my case I was getting low FPS in games like arma 2-3 and now with cooling issues its almost unplayable at most times.
With christmas just around the corner im going to be upgrading my system although I am not 100% sure What I actually need to be upgrading. Above I have given you my system specs and ill try and put links as well so below ill put the specs and links to what Im thinking about upgrading to with what fits in my budget.
Cooler Master HAF 912 Blue edition - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI Gaming GTX 760 2GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8GB Ripjaw DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG 840 EVO 120gb SATA III SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Anyway my question if you don't know by now is why am I getting such low fps (normally around 10-30) in arma 2 and 3 with what i feel is a decent rig. And Secondly depending on your answer to the first question what should I upgrade to fix my issues.
IF you have links to better or similar priced better performing parts than the ones I have linked please add them to your response. Thanks in advance.
750w power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 460 Superclocked 1gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom X6 1090T black edition 3.2GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8gigs DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 880G micro ATX motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
My Case is complete **** as 2 of the fans are currently not working messing up my cooling so i have a house fan as a temp solution to that problem for now.
MY ISSUE is that even before the fans went in my case I was getting low FPS in games like arma 2-3 and now with cooling issues its almost unplayable at most times.
With christmas just around the corner im going to be upgrading my system although I am not 100% sure What I actually need to be upgrading. Above I have given you my system specs and ill try and put links as well so below ill put the specs and links to what Im thinking about upgrading to with what fits in my budget.
Cooler Master HAF 912 Blue edition - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI Gaming GTX 760 2GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8GB Ripjaw DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG 840 EVO 120gb SATA III SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Anyway my question if you don't know by now is why am I getting such low fps (normally around 10-30) in arma 2 and 3 with what i feel is a decent rig. And Secondly depending on your answer to the first question what should I upgrade to fix my issues.
IF you have links to better or similar priced better performing parts than the ones I have linked please add them to your response. Thanks in advance.
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Amar Tsogtoo
December 6, 2013 11:44:45 PM
Those are some decent upgrades.. But i would also upgrade your motherboard and cpu, to a decent motherboard like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168..., and a fx 6350/6300 or fx 8320/8350.
And instead of gtx 760 i would go with R9 280x because they perform way better but the gtx 760 is fine.
And instead of gtx 760 i would go with R9 280x because they perform way better but the gtx 760 is fine.
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huilun02
December 6, 2013 11:49:39 PM
Your GTX 640 is old and relatively weak compared the same range of cards today. The 760 should be quite a big step up in performance.
Your Phenom X6 was quite powerful in its day, but now it doesn't do particularly well in Arma
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/pa...
As you can see the 1100T loses out to the newer FX 4320 quad core. How come? Because Arma doesn't use all 6 cores and performance falls back on the speed of individual cores. Consider overclocking to as close to or beyond 4Ghz as possible.
You might find your Christmas parts cheaper
GTX 760 - https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=gtx+760
840 EVO - https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=samsung+840+ev...
Your Phenom X6 was quite powerful in its day, but now it doesn't do particularly well in Arma
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/pa...
As you can see the 1100T loses out to the newer FX 4320 quad core. How come? Because Arma doesn't use all 6 cores and performance falls back on the speed of individual cores. Consider overclocking to as close to or beyond 4Ghz as possible.
You might find your Christmas parts cheaper
GTX 760 - https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=gtx+760
840 EVO - https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=samsung+840+ev...
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kafungalung
December 6, 2013 11:53:24 PM
thank you for your input, however I dont know what that fx 6350 or fx 8320 stuff is, and the R9 280x is 100$ more at least than the gtx 760.
the motherboard you linked looks fine, but my issue is why spend another 130$ on a motherboard when mine is working. I'm not opposing you I just mean like what are the reasons I should get a new one if you don't mind me asking. I know my way around comps but im not up to snuff on what all the parts do beyond the basics.
the motherboard you linked looks fine, but my issue is why spend another 130$ on a motherboard when mine is working. I'm not opposing you I just mean like what are the reasons I should get a new one if you don't mind me asking. I know my way around comps but im not up to snuff on what all the parts do beyond the basics.
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kafungalung
December 6, 2013 11:55:35 PM
Amar Tsogtoo
December 7, 2013 12:06:31 AM
Because your current motherboard isnt compatible with any of the fx chips. And you should get the fx chips.
AMD fx 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD fx 6350 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD fx 8320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX 8350 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or you could get an i5 4670k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With a z87 mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD fx 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD fx 6350 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD fx 8320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX 8350 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or you could get an i5 4670k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With a z87 mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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huilun02
December 7, 2013 12:14:32 AM
kafungalung said:
@huilun02 thank you very much for your info. so are you saying I should get a new processor and if so what would you reccommend.You can overclock your Phenom, or include a new CPU/board combo in your Christmas list. I can make some suggestions of what's good if you can make up a budget (for the new CPU/mobo). Also keep in mind you'll have buy new Windows OS to go with the new board, if you are using an OEM copy right now.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:15:42 AM
Ok so as of right now I'm considering getting a AMD FX-8350 which i can get for about 200$ but then Ill also be getting a GTX -760 for about 260$ plus I HAVE to get a new case which will run me about 60 -70$ plus the SSD is about 170$ so just right now im loooking at nearing 700$ in parts and I still have to get a mobo for the fx chip. so what mobo do you guys reccommend thats not too expensive?
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Amar Tsogtoo
December 7, 2013 12:17:52 AM
Amar Tsogtoo
December 7, 2013 12:18:15 AM
kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:20:56 AM
btw my budget is probably about 600 right now because of christmas coming up. si with the must haves being a new Case, Mobo, processor and GFX card heres what I'm looking at.
Case 60$
Processor 200$
GFX card 260$
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520$
I can drop the SSD buy until after christmas when i've got more cash so i nee a decent Mobo that isn;t going to put my cost over 650$
I'm open to your suggestions.
Case 60$
Processor 200$
GFX card 260$
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520$
I can drop the SSD buy until after christmas when i've got more cash so i nee a decent Mobo that isn;t going to put my cost over 650$
I'm open to your suggestions.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:29:19 AM
oh also @huilun02 if i bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... when I put my pc together back in 2011 would I still need to buy a new OS?
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huilun02
December 7, 2013 12:38:45 AM
When you install an OEM version of Windows, it locks itself to whatever board you were using when the license is activated. So as long as the board is the same, you don't have to buy Windows again.
If say, you want to reuse your 880G, just install the same version of Windows and activate with the same key as when you used the 880G for the first time.
As for the new board, I think one of these would be good with any FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'm no expert on AMD motherboards so do consider other people's suggestions.
If say, you want to reuse your 880G, just install the same version of Windows and activate with the same key as when you used the 880G for the first time.
As for the new board, I think one of these would be good with any FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'm no expert on AMD motherboards so do consider other people's suggestions.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:42:05 AM
huilun02
December 7, 2013 12:45:41 AM
kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:47:09 AM
I think I liked the second one you linked and it will still bring me in under 650$ which is nice. I'll sort out the getting a new OS at some point but its nice to have a list of the parts i need and which ones to get and their cost.
Thank you guys so much for taking the time to help me out I really appreciate it as I wouldn't have even known where to begin without the help. I'll keep monitoring this post if others have points of view but so far great job thanks guys.
Thank you guys so much for taking the time to help me out I really appreciate it as I wouldn't have even known where to begin without the help. I'll keep monitoring this post if others have points of view but so far great job thanks guys.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 12:47:58 AM
huilun02
December 7, 2013 1:18:20 AM
Getting that new Cooler Master case probably isn't going to solve much of your cooling issue, as it comes with only one 120mm intake fan. Unless you are going to add more or transfer the working ones from the old case.
You have to be specific about the cooling issue. I assume your processor is running very hot?
You have to be specific about the cooling issue. I assume your processor is running very hot?
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 1:20:35 AM
well then I guess Im open to case suggestions as well haha, and yeah my rig is running very hot Im idling at 40C with only internet browsers running. Because 2 of the 3 fans are shot and the foot stands on the case are broken as well. was really just a cheap case when I bought it... here the case i currently have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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huilun02
December 7, 2013 1:32:23 AM
To solve that problem you will have to tackle the CPU cooler directly. Getting one case or another will result in the same thing as they don't come outfitted with a salvo of fans.
Check that your cooler is seated firmly onto the processor. It should not shake the slightest bit. Also clear it of accumulated dust. If that doesn't work it might mean it's time to reapply new thermal paste or get a new cooler altogether.
Also, AMD's stock cooler sucks.
Check that your cooler is seated firmly onto the processor. It should not shake the slightest bit. Also clear it of accumulated dust. If that doesn't work it might mean it's time to reapply new thermal paste or get a new cooler altogether.
Also, AMD's stock cooler sucks.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 1:41:27 AM
Well I NEED a new case reguardless of whether its the cause of my heat issue or not, so If you could link a decent case that would be appreciated.
Secondly Assuming my CPU cooler is not getting the job done I'm looking into Liquid cooling as recommended by a friend but I'm way out of my element here so a link to a decent Liquid cooler would be appreciated aswell.
Secondly Assuming my CPU cooler is not getting the job done I'm looking into Liquid cooling as recommended by a friend but I'm way out of my element here so a link to a decent Liquid cooler would be appreciated aswell.
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 1:48:46 AM
BTW for anyone getting lost in all the parts being linked heres what I have currently:
750w power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 460 Superclocked 1gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom X6 1090T black edition 3.2GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8gigs DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 880G micro ATX motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And here is what I'm upgrading to so far:
GFX Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
750w power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GTX 460 Superclocked 1gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom X6 1090T black edition 3.2GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8gigs DDR3 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 880G micro ATX motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And here is what I'm upgrading to so far:
GFX Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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huilun02
December 7, 2013 1:58:41 AM
If you're on a budget there are no liquid coolers that will outperform a good air cooler. For example it's close to impossible to beat the Hyper 212 Evo for $30 http://www.outletpc.com/hn6355.html?utm_source=hn6355&u...
The good liquid coolers that are worth getting start from $80. Arguably the peak in liquid cooler value would be the Corsair H100i, which is only $10 away. Beyond that you'll have to start paying more for negligible improvements with some new fangled coolers.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s...
The good liquid coolers that are worth getting start from $80. Arguably the peak in liquid cooler value would be the Corsair H100i, which is only $10 away. Beyond that you'll have to start paying more for negligible improvements with some new fangled coolers.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s...
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 2:11:42 AM
kafungalung
December 7, 2013 2:16:17 AM
hmm I think this is the case im going to try and get: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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huilun02
December 7, 2013 2:45:03 AM
These cases cost the same as the HAF 912. And the H100i is guaranteed to fit in the top without modifications, according to the case compatibility thread.
Corsair Carbide 300R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
One 120mm exhaust fan, one 140mm intake fan, dust filters, front USB 3.0 & audio
NZXT Tempest 410
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
One 120mm intake and one 120mm exhaust fan, dust filters, front USB 3.0, 2.0 & audio. Looks big, raised roof accommodates large radiators and fans.
Corsair liquid coolers case compatibility thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1144409/h80-h80i-h90-h100-h1...
Corsair Carbide 300R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
One 120mm exhaust fan, one 140mm intake fan, dust filters, front USB 3.0 & audio
NZXT Tempest 410
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
One 120mm intake and one 120mm exhaust fan, dust filters, front USB 3.0, 2.0 & audio. Looks big, raised roof accommodates large radiators and fans.
Corsair liquid coolers case compatibility thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1144409/h80-h80i-h90-h100-h1...
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kafungalung
December 7, 2013 2:47:32 AM
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