Intel core i5-4670K CPU good for modern/upcoming games?

Hegsbro

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Hi!

I got a AMD Phenom 2 x4 CPU at the moment , but i want to buy myself a new motherboard and CPU real soon. Im not a pro in this kind of things so i want some help deciding what kind of processor to buy for a reasonable price! I got my eyes on "Intel Core i5.4670K" as of right now but may change my mind if there is something better in the same price range. And im also wondering if the i5 processors are good enough for modern/upcoming games! I will ofcourse buy a motherboard that will fit depending on the CPU i choose..

(Sorry if my English is bad, im Norwegian, what to expect! :p)
 
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The difference between AMD and intel for gaming.
Firstly, you need to decide what your priorities are, and what you will use the PC for.
Things such as: light gaming, heavy gaming, basic work (e.g. MS Office), heavy work (e.g. video editing, 3d modeling).
For the most part in current games the biggest difference will be made by the selection of the GPU. Get a great GPU + worse CPU rather than worse GPU + great CPU.

The AMD FX CPU's have many cores, which are weaker.
intel i5's have less cores, which are stronger.

The intel's consequently have better performance per core. In older games, the intels perform better as those games are optimised for good performance with only a few cores...
The Core i5-4670K is a very good processor for gaming. The FX-8350 and 8320 are nearly in the same price range (a little cheaper, especially the 8320) and sometimes match the 4670K, but other times fall behind by quite a large margin. So the 4670K is a good choice.
 

Hegsbro

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Thank you for the quick feedbak guys!


This is my computer specs:

- Operating system (Windows 7 home premium 64-bit sp1)
- CPU (AMD Phenom 2 x4 965)
- RAM 4GB dual channel DDR3 @ 535mhz (7-7-7-20)
- Motherboard (ASUStek computer INC M4A785TD-V EVO, AM3)
- GPU (248 CLH 1920x1080@60hz, 2047mb NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST (EVGA)
- HDD 1863GB Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH164 ATA Device (SATA)
- SSD 111GB KINGSTON SH103S3120G ATA Device (SSD)
- PSU 450W

im planning to buy the intel core i5-4670K (Because of the positive feedback of it). But what kind of mother board to a reasonable price would go well with this CPU? Maybe ASUS MAXIMUS VI GENE, Socket-1150?
 

Hegsbro

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Lets just say that the ASUS MAXIMUS VI GENE, Socket-1150 is afordable, but i dont want to buy anything more expensive than that! And im kinda in the learning process when it comes to building computers. I will probably upgrade my computer more in the upcoming years so i dont want to buy something cheap or "non-upgradeable parts" if u know what i mean, i want to be on the safe side! ;)
 

Darkresurrection

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go with AMD FX8320 or an i7, overclock to 4ghz and here it is your fx 8350
in old or single threaded games yeah i5 4670k>fx 8350 currently and for moderately threaded games i5 4670=fx 8350, and in the near future fx 8350> i5 4670k, let's review these benchmarks here
http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfighter-benchmarks/page6.html (MOH warfighter fx 8350 performs as well as i7-3960x)
http://www.techspot.com/review/601-black-ops-2-performance/page5.html (call of duty black ops 2 fx 8350 performs as well as i7-3960x)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Crysis-3-PC-235317/Tests/Crysis-3-Test-CPU-Benchmark-1056578/ (crysis 3- fx 8350 better than i7 3770k and just below i7-3950x)
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1598/pg6/amd-fx-8350-processor-review-battlefield-3.html (bf3 fx 8350>i5 3570k)
http://www.hardwarepal.com/batman-arkham-origins-benchmark/8/ (batman Arkham Origins fx 8350= i7 4770k after AMD's catalyst release)
http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/4/ ( battlefield 4 ultra HD FX 8350 equal to i7-4770k)
http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/8/ ( battlefield4 full HD the same scenario)
http://www.techspot.com/review/645-tomb-raider-performance/page5.html (Tomb raider 2013)
a lot of more incidents which shows these CPUs enjoy actually the same performance, in one game one beats the other, in the other game there is another scenario, but something is for sure, in crysis 3 for example i5-3570k uses 80% percent of it resources AMD fx 8350 just uses 60% in COD ghost i5 4670k uses 44% of its resources fx 8350 only uses 25%
in the future fx 8350> i5 4670k!? just look at these links
* where is the i5 in UBISOFT's system requirements!? http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs Ubisoft has confrimed that this game is heavily threaded, and has promised i5 owners can hit high sttings!! NO ULTRA SETTINGS
* When Capcom says its new engine takes full advantage of i7, which is good news for fx users, Capcom it really means it http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/132533/sponsored_feature_resident_evil_5_.php?print=1
* Epic says the more cores the better http://www.shacknews.com/article/70348/epic-talks-unreal-engine-4
so I would personally go with fx 8320, pay less and get the similar performance, and future proof as well
 
The difference between AMD and intel for gaming.
Firstly, you need to decide what your priorities are, and what you will use the PC for.
Things such as: light gaming, heavy gaming, basic work (e.g. MS Office), heavy work (e.g. video editing, 3d modeling).
For the most part in current games the biggest difference will be made by the selection of the GPU. Get a great GPU + worse CPU rather than worse GPU + great CPU.

The AMD FX CPU's have many cores, which are weaker.
intel i5's have less cores, which are stronger.

The intel's consequently have better performance per core. In older games, the intels perform better as those games are optimised for good performance with only a few cores (single-threading).
In newer games, the AMD FX's really shine due to the introduction of games using more cores (multi-threading), which may continue into nextgen (unconfirmed).

The difference comes in depending on what you want to use the PC for. If you're on a tight budget, save some money and go with the AMD and spend the extra money on a better GPU that will give you better performance than any CPU could.

i5: Good for older games (single-threaded), Good for newer games (multi-threaded), Good for general work, great all-round CPU and probably the best around for current games (may change in future).
AMD: Slightly worse for older games (single-threaded), Great for newer games (multi-threaded e.g. BF4, Crysis 3), Good for light/heavy work, extra cores are great for 3d modeling and video editing or rendering, great CPU whilst costing much less than the intel. Even though it's worse in older games it will run them perfectly well and smoothly.

Regardless, both will perform well.
For an i5, I would recommend an i5 3570k or a 4670k. Why? They are king for gaming performance at the moment and since they are the k version they are unlocked and can be overclocked in future for a performance boost.

For an AMD, I would recommend a FX 6300/8320/8350 (might as well get the 8320, it's an 8350 clocked lower at stock which you can change) [Do NOT go with a bulldozer CPU, only piledriver. List here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_(microarchitecture) <-- That should all be one link, not sure why it splits.]. Why? Great multi-threaded performance for newer games and heavy work, are just fine in older games (not overkill, can deliver smooth frame rates maxed with a good GPU), and are great for productivity with a tame pricetag.

As a general guide for gaming: (FX's piledriver, intel's sandy/ivy/haswell)
- FX 4300/4320/4350 = i3
- FX 6300/6350 = i3 or mid i5
- FX 8320/8350/9xxx = i5 (k) / i7 (well-threaded games, streaming [i7 hyperthreading isn't very beneficial to gaming]).


In conclusion, budget gaming/work: AMD. Not on a budget gaming/work: i5/i7. The i5 currently delivers better performance but don't get the impression that the AMD is lagging behind. They are great for gaming and work with a really great pricetag, just not currently up there with intel. In newer games though such as BF4 the AMD's have caught up in performance and in some cases deliver better performance than the intel's for much less money. You will get great, smooth FPS with either.
Either solution will game just fine with a nice GPU, focus mainly on that.

Some non-synthetic benchmarks between the FX 83xx series and the i5/i7's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

TL;DR - FX 6300/8320/8350 or intel i5/i7 k. Get the best GPU possible (save some $$$ from cheaper CPU), any will be fine.

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We might be seeing more multi-core optimisation very soon, as Darkresurrection pointed out.
I'd go with either the FX 8320 or the i5 4670k. Both would be great.
 
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