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December 9, 2013 2:53:04 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Closer to Christmas - most likely around the New Year

Budget Range: Floating between 1.5k and 2k AUD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Will primarily be used to get back into PC gaming (actually to start in PC gaming), can not see it being used for video editing or audio recording etc

Are you buying a monitor: At this stage I have a 22" monitor, will be looking to upgrade to around a 27"


Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) All parts are completely new so they are listed down the bottom

Do you need to buy OS: / No


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: umart.com.au

Location: City, State/Region, Country - I am located in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Closest store is Milton but really could get it from any Brisbane store and have it couriered

Parts Preferences: At this stage I have been looking at Intel for CPU and ATI for GPU

Overclocking: Yes - have a friend who is in the know with OCing

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - but still want the capability incase I decide to go that route

Your Monitor Resolution: As I haven't used my desktop in ages I believe it is currently 1920 x 1080 (something like that) would like to go up to the 2560 x 1440 with monitor upgrade (and maybe even dual monitor later on)

Additional Comments: At this stage I do not PC game at all but I really want to get into it as consoles just don't do it for me the way PC does. I would love to rip into Battlefield 4 and Elder Scrolls online when it lands

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Never had a solid gaming PC, and its time to get into the ring!

PARTS SO FAR:
Mobo: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

Video Card: Gigabyte R9 290X
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

CPU: intel i5 4670k
https://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=...

CPU cooler: Corsair H55
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

PSU: FSP 1200W Aurum PRO Series Modular PSU, 80PLUS Gold
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

RAM: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R PC3-12800 (1600MHz)
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

HDD 1: SanDisk SDSSDXP-120G-Q25 SanDisk Extreme II
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

HDD 2: Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBKS 15X Blu-Ray Writer Drive SATA
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

Wireless USB Adaptor:
D-Link DWA-140 RangeBooster N Wireless LAN USB Adapter
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_review.phtml?id=10...

All these parts come to roughly $2000 (from memory) and then only about $20-$25 for a courier delivery.

Pretty much would like any opinions people may have about things that could be better or more value for money items etc. Two things though

1. My video card: I am holding off till after christmas to purchase (and most likely early into the new year) for two reasons being a) christmas bonus comes through (always good!) and b) internet searches have found a potential range of "aftermarket" R9 290x cards to still be released so want to look at these

2. PSU: Originally wanted a Corsair but internet research has told me if I want to crossfire another R9 290x with the other bits I have, I need to be pushing around a 1000-1200w PSU. Internet reviews were favourable for this PSU and it was a little cheaper than the Corsair ones (all I can hear in the back of my mind is my friend saying, "dont skimp on the PSU")
December 9, 2013 3:05:17 AM

First of all

Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard and Corsair Vengeance Performance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory are not compatible.
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard RAM slot form factor (240-pin DIMM) is not compatible with Corsair Vengeance Performance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory form factor (204-pin SODIMM).

Pick a compatible RAM.
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December 9, 2013 3:06:14 AM

r9 290x isnt worth it, only ~5% faster


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($267.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($95.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($475.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($148.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($229.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1469.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-09 22:06 EST+1100)
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December 9, 2013 3:15:26 AM

Ah damn! Thanks heaps prudhvirazz, I thought I had checked all that. Obviously not enough

Marcopolo 123, thank you very much for your input and it is greatly appreciated. In terms of the PSU, would this still be ok if I ever crossfired another 290 with some overclocking on CPU/GPU?

Really appreciate the help guys, it is greatly appreciated by someone as new to this as myself :) 
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December 9, 2013 3:19:18 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2hy7V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2hy7V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2hy7V/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($267.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($206.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($419.00 @ PLE Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($148.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($288.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1642.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-09 22:19 EST+1100)
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December 9, 2013 3:54:03 AM

I don't understand why don't you suggest him GTX 780 when he can afford it. i5 4670k will not bottleneck GTX 780. Am I missing something here ?
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December 9, 2013 3:56:20 AM

prudhvirazz said:
I don't understand why don't you suggest him GTX 780 when he can afford it. will i5 4670k bottleneck GTX 780 ? or Am I missing something?


He said he wanted sli, i was just suggesting a cheaper option.
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December 9, 2013 4:04:01 AM

camohanna said:
prudhvirazz said:
I don't understand why don't you suggest him GTX 780 when he can afford it. will i5 4670k bottleneck GTX 780 ? or Am I missing something?


He said he wanted sli, i was just suggesting a cheaper option.


Ok cool. I just read that i5 4670 even supports 2 x GTX 780. But thats over OPs budget i see.

A friend who works in Nvidia told me this.
AMD when it released R9 290x it hand picked the best bins. But now after some time its not using the best bins. It used a mix of high, med and low grade bins. so he suggested. Don't trust 290x by the BM results. Go for GTX 780/770
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December 9, 2013 4:08:49 AM

Currently I'm not looking to go straight into a multi video card setup upon purchase so I might look into 1x GTX 780 to begin with and go the dual card path later on

Thanks heaps again guys, the PCPartpicker site is proving very useful and alot of fun to play around with
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December 9, 2013 4:12:56 AM

Then GTX 780 should be your choice.

yes pcp is very handy
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December 9, 2013 4:23:42 AM

Having a look at 780s now and have two questions:

1. R9 290 against GTX 780? Main reason I ask is the price difference between the two being about $475 to $629 respectively. Would the 780 TI be worth considering or is this just spending extra for not much more bang for my uses
2. If aftermarket versions of the 290x start coming out within a month or so (as I said, not looking to buy for another approx month), would you see much merit comparing these against the 780x TI (or is there really no need for me to be going to the X/TI series of either card respectively and just stick with comparison of 290/780)
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December 9, 2013 4:31:35 AM

Like I have told don't go for 290.

A friend who works in Nvidia told me this.
AMD when it released R9 290x it hand picked the best bins. But now after some time its not using the best bins. It used a mix of high, med and low grade bins. so he suggested. Don't trust 290x by the BM results. Go for GTX 780/770

780 vs 780 ti - this question i leave it to the pros
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December 9, 2013 4:35:54 AM

Thank you for all your advice, prudhvirazz
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December 9, 2013 4:36:13 AM

and one more thing 780 cost around 500$ not 629$

EVGA known for extended warranty and best RMA costs 510$

Asus GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 - costs 510$ - know for good cooling, low noise and its OCed
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December 10, 2013 3:51:05 AM

After playing around with the PCParts website and the advice offered in this thread, I came up with the following

[PCPartPicker part list](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2i4VU) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2i4VU/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2i4VU/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670...) | $267.00 @ CPL Online
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-coole...) | $45.00 @ CPL Online
**Motherboard** | [MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45g...) | $195.00 @ CPL Online
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl...) | $99.00 @ CPL Online
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-d...) | $109.00 @ CPL Online
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-d...) | $98.00 @ CPL Online
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...) | $499.00 @ CPL Online
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WDN3200 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-networ...) | $25.00 @ CPL Online
**Case** | [Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdc...) | $148.00 @ CPL Online
**Power Supply** | [Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-ax...) | $288.00 @ CPL Online
**Optical Drive** | [LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-bh16ns...) | $79.00 @ CPL Online
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1852.00
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-10 22:50 EST+1100 |

Not sure how to make it all easy to read like how you guys have done it. Not sure about the Motherboard against what you guys have said and also keeping in mind that I will be waiting for aftermarket r9 290s to hit the shelves for their better cooling etc for noise levels while overclocking but I wanted to get a rough price so I put in the currently available 290
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Best solution

December 10, 2013 7:49:49 AM
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