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New PC : good results, but could be better.

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December 10, 2013 10:29:00 AM

Hey guys.
As you can probably guess from the thread title, i just recently bought a completely new PC.

PSU : BeQuiet POWERZONE 1000W
GPU : ASUS R9280X-DC2-3GD5
CPU : AMD FX-8350 (running normally, not overclocked, 8x4,0Ghz.)
RAM : GeIL 16 GB DDR3-1866 Dragon Tribal
Motherboard : Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0

The rest is pretty normal.

So i expected, that this system can pretty much handle any game i throw at it. And it kinda does. But yeah, only kinda. I guess you could expect as much, since the 280X is a strong Card, but not the strongest.

The Games my setup has some minor problems with are Metro Last Light and Crysis 3. I can play them completely maxed out, but Crysis runs at inconsistent 30FPS and lower, sometimes even below 20FPS, and Metro LL runs pretty slow, aswell, with 4xSSAA and very high tessellation, with only high tessellation and 2xSSAA, it runs fine, but somewhat inconsistent aswell.
The other games i havent experienced anything major. BF4 runs nice and smooth, with everything maxed, with about 45-50FPS on average, rarely dropping beneath the 30FPS-mark.

So i thought, what could i do to smoothen the gameplay experience? The cheapest way out of there would be buying another R9 280X and Crossfire those two badboys. And least so i think. My other options would be exchanging AMD for Intel, but i kinda hesitate to do so, since the price-performance ratio is kinda bad for Intel. The main reason why i decided to buy the AMD. Or the third, buying a completely new graphics card, which kinda seems pointless, since i just recently bought the GPU.

Oh yeah, and im using one screen for gaming (1920x1080) and another one as secondary screen, however not as second gaming screen, but rather to see if i get sent messages via skype or something.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
AkumaSlayR

PS: Sorry for the bad english, not my first language, but rather my preferred one.

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December 10, 2013 10:38:02 AM

All I can say, you got a worst piece of metal (PSU). Try to replace the PSU for your own good. And Crossfire wouldn't help you I personally think so.
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December 10, 2013 10:46:23 AM

^Lie. Be Quiet PSU's are made by some of the finest (FSP).
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December 10, 2013 10:47:50 AM

I might add - turn off 4xSSAA.
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December 10, 2013 10:56:37 AM

Yeah, i already did. And why on earth should i replace my be quiet psu? They are among the top PSU's, and thats not an opinion, but rather a fact. I was just getting worried, that i might not keep up with the upcoming games, best example being Watch Dogs, which seems pretty hungry, graphics wise.
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December 10, 2013 11:07:56 AM

lonewolf7 said:
All I can say, you got a worst piece of metal (PSU). Try to replace the PSU for your own good. And Crossfire wouldn't help you I personally think so.


His particular model is a pretty good unit.
A relabeled top of the line FSP unit.
Voltage regulation is very good, ripple is very good, input filtering is very good,efficency is bronze @20% and 100% load and gold @50% load.
Only problem is Teapo capicators used , but they are 105c ones not the 45c ones used in cheap units. 5 Year warranty.
tests
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/power...
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/be-quiet-pow...
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December 10, 2013 11:28:47 AM

Unolocogringo said:
lonewolf7 said:
All I can say, you got a worst piece of metal (PSU). Try to replace the PSU for your own good. And Crossfire wouldn't help you I personally think so.


His particular model is a pretty good unit.
A relabeled top of the line FSP unit.
Voltage regulation is very good, ripple is very good, input filtering is very good,efficency is bronze @20% and 100% load and gold @50% load.
Only problem is Teapo capicators used , but they are 105c ones not the 45c ones used in cheap units. 5 Year warranty.
tests
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/power...
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/be-quiet-pow...


Hehe, thanks for the reassurance. And the info! So i guess I'll just stay with my setup as it is now, and turn down those two games. We'll see how it handles the upcoming games.
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December 10, 2013 11:34:04 AM

Your english is better than a lot of Americans.
Your card is a relabeled 7970 so expect it to perform like one, only the 290 -290x are the new chips from AMD.
Crossfire is an option, but it does have its problems.

Some people still experience microstutter, if playing non DX11 games. This has been partially addressed in driver updates and hardware updates in the 290 series.
The only other options are overclocking and lowering of detail or post processing, AA & AF. As you have already done.
Switching to an intel system will help a little, a few percent on threaded games to 20 percent on games that use 1 core with a little use on a second core.

Your best performance per dollar at this point would be another card for crossfire.
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December 10, 2013 11:36:25 AM

@ MysteryINC Why would I lie any reason behind that ?

@ AkumaSlayR

What would happen if your PSU can't cope with the load:
•bad 3D performance
•crashing games
•spontaneous reset or imminent shutdown of the PC
•freezing during gameplay
•PSU overload can cause it to break down

@ Unolocogringo http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
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December 10, 2013 11:53:39 AM

Unolocogringo said:
Your english is better than a lot of Americans.
Your card is a relabeled 7970 so expect it to perform like one, only the 290 -290x are the new chips from AMD.
Crossfire is an option, but it does have its problems.

Some people still experience microstutter, if playing non DX11 games. This has been partially addressed in driver updates and hardware updates in the 290 series.
The only other options are overclocking and lowering of detail or post processing, AA & AF. As you have already done.
Switching to an intel system will help a little, a few percent on threaded games to 20 percent on games that use 1 core with a little use on a second core.

Your best performance per dollar at this point would be another card for crossfire.


Thanks alot for the compliment :) 
And i think, as you stated, i will stick to the setup as it is right now, and if i should run into performance issues on later games, ill just add another graphics card or replace it. Thanks alot. You helped me a bunch.
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December 10, 2013 2:10:21 PM

lonewolf7 said:
@ MysteryINC Why would I lie any reason behind that ?

@ AkumaSlayR

What would happen if your PSU can't cope with the load:
•bad 3D performance
•crashing games
•spontaneous reset or imminent shutdown of the PC
•freezing during gameplay
•PSU overload can cause it to break down

@ Unolocogringo http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


I use that list quite often.
BeQuiet and FSP are tier 3 units, Not top of the line units ,but good solid power supplys. When a paticular unit is not on that list i look for reviews that include ,regulation,electrical noise,and ripple benchmarks. Quality of interior components is also a factor. The two reviews I posted covered all of the above and is scored well on all tests.
I know it is not a SeaSonic,XFX (relabeled SeaSonic0 Or Corsair (relabeled SeaSonic, CWT units) but it is still a good unit.

His stated use for crossfire would put in in its sweet spot for efficency,regulation and ripple. His system would never pull 1085 watts that it is capable of.

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December 11, 2013 10:23:44 AM

I think you mixed up with OP's PSU(BeQuiet POWERZONE 1000W) with Be Quiet Dark Power Pro which is actually a TIER 3 Unit, but not the OP's one.

And perhaps it's your opinion but not mine on that PSU. I still say its a piece of junk.
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December 11, 2013 10:57:32 AM

The thing is: you can't say that something is a piece of junk it it isn't. That's just being biased towards other brands.
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December 11, 2013 12:08:13 PM

And you cant tell anyone that he/she is lying. Can you prove that particularly OP's PSU is of a good model PSU ? Do some research and read some reviews online of good sites before making any comment.
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December 11, 2013 12:16:39 PM

Thanks for the suggestion, but I did do my research. I do know that that PSU is a good model as I know someone who owns it.
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December 11, 2013 12:55:19 PM

Again an useless comment.
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December 11, 2013 2:14:38 PM

lonewolf7 said:
Again an useless comment.


If you look at either of the reviews I posted, they are both for his unit.
NOT the Dark Power Pro unit.
Do us all a favor and read either or both of the reviews I posted,

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December 12, 2013 9:11:15 AM

I already did that. But it will be better if you link some reputable sites. Those reviews wont help anybody to understand the real world situation. Use some good sites and take that as a suggestion.
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December 12, 2013 9:20:32 AM

Can you just stop commenting on this post? The answer was chosen.
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December 12, 2013 11:22:40 AM

So what ?
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December 12, 2013 11:52:27 AM

You're just spamming.
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December 12, 2013 12:04:57 PM

You started this, not me. So who is spamming ?
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December 12, 2013 12:48:30 PM

Just go. This is the last post I'm posting here.
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December 13, 2013 4:46:21 AM

So, never start anything that you cant finish.
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