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Ok this can get lengthy. So I was looking for a graphics card and saw the Sapphire R9-280X TOXIC and i thought this is perfect. The thing is every store I check in doesn't have stock (even though their site advertise it). I saw different versions of the R9-280X from MSI and the Dual-X and Vapor-X of Sapphire. Upon checking the specification, I see that there are differences like the clock and how many monitors they can support.

So the question is do they have noticeable difference in performance?

If possible, all versions of the R9-280X would fall in here including the original.

I'm only going to play in a single monitor at 1080p. With High-Highest settings of new games (Crysis 3, Skyrim, Dishonored, and the likes).

Currently have AMD 10-5800k as a processor and 8GB of memory (yes, call me dumb) but I'm planning to build it slowly.

Probably for now I may OC the CPU, if that helps. Also, the noise and heat doesn't bother me at all (unless to the point of cooking my computer). I only ask for the performance of each card.

So based on these facts, can anyone tell me if there is a noticeable difference in performance between these cards?
 
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The only main difference between the cards are the cooler, MSI have great coolers.

And the overclocking is literally an application where you just have to pull up or down a lever with your mouse.
Only MSI come with this software, I think.

And since your overclocking I would go for the MSI.
And all manufacturers pre overclock their gpus. But some do it more than others.

So I'd go for the MSI r9 280x if you want to save some cash and get the Same performance from doing a small overclock.

Get the Sapphire Toxic if you have a bit more to spend.

Really it all boils down to looks and budget.
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From the Philippines.
Is this it?
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/msi-r9-280x-twin-frozer-3g-384bit-gaming/
But if you have a better link feel free to tell me.

Upon looking at the Specs of the MSI twin frozr and the Sapphire Toxic, I think the toxic offers better in performance (I may be wrong though) and is cheaper than the MSI. I might be contradicting myself here though.
 
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Actually the performance is technically the same but the Toxic has a higher clock speed Than the MSI.

But that really doesn't matter as MSI has software that can overclock it for you from windows. So I'd go with the cheaper one.
 
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So what is the advantage of having Higher Clock Speed?

And does the performance of all the R9-280X's isn't noticeable at all although they have different specifications? Do they at least have 10 fps difference?
 
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There is hardly any difference since you can overclock the r9 280x so easily. But if you don't want to overclock and is willing to PAY more get the toxic.

Clock speed is the measure of hoe many instructions it can take or do per cycle, it is usually represented in mhz and ghz. But in this situation clock speed is not an important factor if it is only a 50-100 mhz difference.
 
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So I can get any version without ever noticing a difference? That's great. How about without overclocking though?
Based from here: http://www.overclockers.com/msi-r9-280x-gaming-3g-video-card-review
I can see 4 fps difference between the original and the MSI so the original is out of the question.

I may overclock the GPU but only used it's software Presets. I've read somewhere that the Sapphire pre-overclock their GPU higher than the rest. Even if that is so, does overclocking those different versions to the same speed wouldn't show noticeable difference?
 
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The only main difference between the cards are the cooler, MSI have great coolers.

And the overclocking is literally an application where you just have to pull up or down a lever with your mouse.
Only MSI come with this software, I think.

And since your overclocking I would go for the MSI.
And all manufacturers pre overclock their gpus. But some do it more than others.

So I'd go for the MSI r9 280x if you want to save some cash and get the Same performance from doing a small overclock.

Get the Sapphire Toxic if you have a bit more to spend.

Really it all boils down to looks and budget.
 
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The Sapphire TOXIC is cheaper than the MSI actually (at least from the pricing list of the store I visited) but only around $2. Since there won't be any difference I think I'll get the best that is available. Thanks for the help.
 
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$2 cheaper than the MSI. It was my first choice but the store run out of stock. Sucks. But when I can't find a toxic I might as well get the MSI or maybe the Sapphire Dual-x or Vapor-x since they are cheaper at around $20 and $40 respectively than the Toxic and MSI.
 
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Yeah, thinking of getting the MSI but as I've said, depending on the availability.
I'm going to prioritize them like this: TOXIC>MSI>Vapor-X>Dual-X. The asus 1 is too pricey. Well, if all the devil plays a trick on me and TOXIC and MSI aren't available, what GPU can you suggest rather than the Dual and Vapor-x? Nvidia cards are welcome as long as it's the same in performance and price.
 
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Yeah. I'm also considering it. But if I can convince my parents to give me extra cash, I might as well get a Palit 780. With my current budget I can already get one but I must get a case, power supply, and other peripherals fist.
 
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No the 780 is a little less than the titan. I would suggest getting r9 290 which isn't that much more and sticking a water block on their. R9 290 not the X version. The r9 290 performs better than a 780 but runs very hot unless you watercool or put the artic sir cooler on it.
 
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R9-290 is not a choice here. Concern here is the heat as it can get very hot here in the summer. But I saw a sapphire r9-290. If that gives better cooling and performance than a 780, I might go for it. Also, I'm only going to play in 1080p single display monitor. As long as I can achieve 30+ fps at High-Highest settings with the newest games, I'm happy. Oh, and if I can get those preferences in an aftermarket GPU then no need to overclock.

Although I'm planning to get a second GPU in the near future. For now I'm stuck with a A10 but gonna upgrade soon.
 
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Does the Sapphire have that problem too?

What do you think is the cheapest card that can run new games at 1080p with High-Highest settings? Can you give me some choices just in case the discussed cards aren't available?
 
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They haven't released non reference cards, sapphire and asus and MSI and xx and etc.. or just selling the reference card for now but by the end of the month/January the cards will have custom cooler, these are called non reference cards.

In terms of performance:

R9 290= 780
R9 280x= 770

In terms of cooling and features:

770 - 780 - r9 280x - r9 290

In terms of frostbite games or games that where developers are using mantle api:

R9 290 - r9 280x/780 -770

In terms of recording:

Nvidia - Amd

In terms of price/performance ratio:

R9 290 - r9 280x - 770 - 780.

Whatever card you get won't be disappointed.
 
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They haven't released non reference cards, sapphire and asus and MSI and xx and etc.. or just selling the reference card for now but by the end of the month/January the cards will have custom cooler, these are called non reference cards.

In terms of performance:

R9 290= 780
R9 280x= 770

In terms of cooling and features:

770 - 780 - r9 280x - r9 290

In terms of frostbite games or games that where developers are using mantle api:

R9 290 - r9 280x/780 -770

In terms of recording:

Nvidia - Amd

In terms of price/performance ratio:

R9 290 - r9 280x - 770 - 780.

Whatever card you get won't be disappointed.
 
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