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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2iIZ4

I'm planning on using this game for gaming and a little video editing (just as a hobby) I'm in love with the case and I know it's necessary but was wondering other ways where I could lower this build.

I'm aiming for a system that will run quiet that will run games on ultra at 1080p with around 60 fps.
 
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Well, given the current landscape of the CPU's that are in the market a solid i5 will keep you in line with modern graphics cards. At this point the only reason people go for a higher end processor is to keep there graphic cards from being bottle necked meaning that your graphics card will only perform as well as your CPU will allow it to. Now since the 800 series isn't out yet I can't comment on that. But what I will say though is that historically Nvidia graphic cards have been relied a little less then AMD graphic cards have. So I feel that with a Haswell CPU the one that you are looking at to purchase it leans you up nicely up for the future for something like a 800 series graphics card if that ends up being a compelling option at...
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If your not considering to overclock as you picked the 4670 and not the K model, maybe switch over to a H87 board, but then you can't do crossfire / sli.

There's also RAM in australia thats 99 dollars which is at 1866mhz. You can also swap your mobo for a asrock extreme6 to save another $9 or so.

Your HD for a WD blue or a seagate barracuda.
 
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[PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($243.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($105.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($419.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($148.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.00)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.00)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.65)
Total: $1464.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-11 17:49 EST+1100)

Lowered the cost of your build. You don't have a overclocking chip stick to a h87 chip. I went with a cheaper case which is still a solid case is predicated on silence. I went with cheaper ram because the ram is just as fast as the ram you had prior. Shaved a good almost 200 dollars. Leaving you room if you wanted to get a 780 or even up to a non k sku i7.
 
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The guy lives in Australia dude. That is why his GPU costs as much as it does.
 
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That card is also out of stock btw ;p
 
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Yeah :/ $419 is the cheapest I could find unfortunately.

I've skimmed my build down to this. Found out I could transfer windows 7 from this computer to the new build. Do you guys think that it's possible for the 770 to drop in price after the 800 series come out? Also do you believe that prices of other components will also drop in price within Q1 of 2014?

Thanks
 
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I was hoping that wasn't the case but had a feeling... Is the AMD 280x priced about the same? The waiting game can be tough if you have more than a few games you want to play and time for it.
 
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Great suggestion but it costs $409 in Australia :( Only about $10 less than the 770 ><
 
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A R9 280x isn't a good card to go for. You are better off aiming for the 7970 looking at that card. It's pretty much a rebadge of the card and you could save money going that route. You aren't wrong going with the GTX770 if that is what you want. AMD people will always suggest going AMD because its more value oriented normally. I'd only touch the R9 290 with the newer cards that is where the real value is problem though with that card is that it runs to hot and to loud for my taste. 2 gigs of ram at this point on the gpu is more then sufficient in most cases with 1080p.
 
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I don't think that was directed at me, but its also not nice to mention it. I'm not biased towards either brand anyways :p

If there was a 7970 I could find for him thats cheaper I would have showed him. 3 sites I checked all out of stock unfortunatly. Seems like all 3 sites are just getting rid of them as 2 don't even list anything higher then a 7870.


 
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Its cool. I wasn't suggesting a level of bias. I just get irritated that every suggestion tends to lean to AMD graphically normally due to cost and nothing beyond that. A GTX770 is still a viable option for people. I found a 7970 on mwave http://www.mwave.com.au/searchresult/7970 you can probably find them on amazon Australia as well. Given the cost though of the xfx 280x may just be easier purchasing that if you go AMD http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280xtdfd
 
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I currently have a gtx 560 (yes I know it's old) But do you think I should wait till the 800 series come out to purchase a new gpu so that the costs are lower or will there be no difference in costs for cards like the 770. Also the 7970 is no longer available in Australia. They are either all sold out and not restocking or have stopped the sale of the 7970.

Also what do you think of the gpu brands? Which brands should I avoid such as the msi and xfx?

Currently I'm able to purchase a a gigabyte 280x ($385), an ASUS 280x ($409) or an EVGA 770 open or closed ($419). Also which card will be better for my build? An open or closed gpu.
 
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Personally, If I were looking to purchase a new card I would wait for the new architecture if you are going with nvidia which would be released with the 800 series of cards Maxwell. However, if you are looking to purchase a card now if the 280x and the 770 are fairly close in price keep this in mind here. The 7970 trades blows with the GTX680 the 770 is essentially a 680 on crack its a good amount faster. I would stick to ASUS and EVGA with Nvidia based bards perhaps MSI as well. People really love Gigabyte cards but their customer service sucks hard.

With AMD you could go with companies like ASUS, and Sapphire and MSI, beyond that XFX I'm sure is okay as well.

Overall I just can't see a compelling argument for the 280x if the pricing is as close as it is to the GTX770 when the 280x is essentially a rebrand 7970 and the GTX770 is a suped up version of the 680. If the current games you are playing are okay with your current card hold off and maybe the 800 series will seem a bit more compelling when that comes up.
 
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For brands, you can't really go wrong with ASUS imo. Some people been saying stay away from MSI alot recently due to quality control. I don't have experience with anything bad with MSI yet, but meh I'll stay safe. NGL that sapphire cooler on the 280x and 270x triple fan looks pretty sick.
 
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Okay thanks guys great help! I think I'm going to wait for the new cards :) Thanks for the brand recommendations too

One last question, Should I upgrade my mobo? Not planning to do any SLI or OC.
 
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From your original build? No I would say no. I would say though that if you are holding off on a graphics card upgrade that you may consider then picking up a k sku processor mainly because having a z87 chipset board that is the main draw. Since you say you aren't looking to overclock you can save a little bit if you were to go with a H87 chipset board personally.

@Sportsfreak. I know a lot of people tend to have a negative feeling towards MSI for some reason I haven't had a bad experience with there product. They ran into issues with there triple overvoltage cards back with the 600 series cards but overall I think every company has there issues here and there especially when there is a lot of items leaving stock.
 
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@bigshootr8 Ya, my collegues who have MSI products, I haven't heard them complain about anything yet. So I was kinda surprised to hear that they had quality control problems. The MSI lightning 770 was soooo cheap too last week. Was tempting to buy it for my newphew but o well.
 
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Without taking the conversation beyond the main posters posting was that Nvidia has in place a lot of restrictions on there board partners when they produce cards in terms of things people would normally overclock which AMD does not. MSI turned around and put out a compelling product going at it from a perspective that was a bit more out there so I don't blame them for that. But if you look at there current motherboards the GD series especially there GD65 its done really well review wise and people really seem to like it. No company is always going to hit a home run all the time.
 
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I don't mind this post being derailed, it's interesting to learn new things. Just wanted to know whether the Gigabyte's GA-H87-D3H will suite my needs/ build or should I spend a bit more to future proof maxwell 800 series.
 
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Well, given the current landscape of the CPU's that are in the market a solid i5 will keep you in line with modern graphics cards. At this point the only reason people go for a higher end processor is to keep there graphic cards from being bottle necked meaning that your graphics card will only perform as well as your CPU will allow it to. Now since the 800 series isn't out yet I can't comment on that. But what I will say though is that historically Nvidia graphic cards have been relied a little less then AMD graphic cards have. So I feel that with a Haswell CPU the one that you are looking at to purchase it leans you up nicely up for the future for something like a 800 series graphics card if that ends up being a compelling option at that time. I use a 2500k which is a 2 generation old series CPU now and I'm not worried about upcoming GPU's I know that my CPU will be up to snub for anything. The only downside to a h87 chipset is that you don't really get the ability to overclock as you would with a z87 chipset board with a K sku processor. You do lose the ability to really grab the multi gpu side of things however that being said I'm really only a huge advocate of a single GPU config unless you are pushing something like a multi display setup with max settings and spanning the displays.
 
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