Starting from scratch again: ~1.3k build

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This is the build I initiailly wanted to purchase but am afraid may be too expensive. I was wondering as to whether someone can assist me with choosing parts. I appreciate all your help!



Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: First quarter for 2014

Budget Range: (e.g.: around 1.3k) After Shipping so around a 1.2k build. 1.4k with shipping could be an option.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Video editing (only as a hobby nothing serious)

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Australian Stores

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Australia, Perth

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU/ Mobo to be Asus or Gigabyte/ Nvidia GPU/ I'd like to keep the Stryker case at it would suite my room

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe in future SLI

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200
 
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Honestly any i5 is basically good, they are pretty much all the same. The 4570 has a slightly better turbo mode than the 4430/4440, in addition to the slightly higher clockspeed, so it's probably a sensible option if you can comfortably afford it. If you really want to push the budget down, either of the other two are very similar though.

Only reason I mentioned SLI is because you did in your OP. It's just something you have to keep in mind, that the motherboard will limit you in this regard.

For PSU capacity, it does depend on all of your components, but it's almost entirely dictated by which graphics card you pick (followed by your CPU and if it is overclocked). Remember that graphics cards are rated up to 250W, CPUs 125W (ignoring...
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First of all, the RAM is wayy too expensive. Try this:
Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB

And do you really need an SSD? I mean I know that its 'the new craze' and all, but seriously, I've been using (fast) computers for a long time, and none of them had an SSD. If you really want an SSD, get a 24GB version, put your OS on that so you can boot up faster.

And since you aren't overclocking, stock fan is good enough, although it will get loud. If you want an aftermarket CPU cooler, then I recommend Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It's cheap, and can run even OCed CPUs at very good temperatures. Just make sure that your case has enough space. Its huge.

The case is too expensive in my opinion. Try Corsair Carbide 500R. The 500R has really good cooling and also has a white version. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010

Lastly, you could get these parts at much cheaper prices if you were to order in the US and have someone ship it to you. Or you could use a parcel forwarder such as Bongo Intl. https://bongous.com/

Apart from that, it looks good! Oh and you sure you want to get Win 7 instead of Win 8?

Heres a build that I am planning to get:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iBYI
 
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The build you have is pretty good. Not a lot wrong with it at all.
If you want to save money, dropping the CPU to basically any other 4000-series i5 is going to give you near identical performance (in fact, the 4670 (non k version) is the worst value for money in the i5 range.
As you aren't overclocking, you can ditch the CPU cooler. The stock cooler will suffice. If you did decide later on that you want to add one, it's relatively straightforward, and you don't need to spend as much money as that.
The motherboard is fine for the build as it stands, but if you want to SLI in the future then you'll need to upgrade to a Z87 board.
For the build as it stands, 650W is more than you need. 550W would be pretty comfortable. Additionally, the HX series aren't the cheapest, you can probably save a bit here too if you want.

Trivial stuff though, it's very good overall.
 
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Thanks for your reply,

Do you think I should go with the Intel Core i5-4440? It's cheaper by $40 or should I get the 4570? Also I am not planning to SLI. Do you know any quiet psu for more build? I was searching around hence why I chose the HX series but It'd be great to find a cheaper quiet one. Also are you sure a 550W will be enough even if I add another 1tb hdd and few fans in future?
 
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Honestly any i5 is basically good, they are pretty much all the same. The 4570 has a slightly better turbo mode than the 4430/4440, in addition to the slightly higher clockspeed, so it's probably a sensible option if you can comfortably afford it. If you really want to push the budget down, either of the other two are very similar though.

Only reason I mentioned SLI is because you did in your OP. It's just something you have to keep in mind, that the motherboard will limit you in this regard.

For PSU capacity, it does depend on all of your components, but it's almost entirely dictated by which graphics card you pick (followed by your CPU and if it is overclocked). Remember that graphics cards are rated up to 250W, CPUs 125W (ignoring overclocking), HDDs and fans are likely to add up to less than 10W for most systems, less than 20W for more elaborate setups. For a single GTX770, a good 550W is plenty. Australian PCpartpicker doesn't exactly have a great PSU selection, so it might be that you come back to the HX650 as one of the few viable choices.
Based on what I can see on there, I'd go for a Seasonic SSR-550 or Antec HCG-620M, but given the lack of options the HX650 is by no means a bad pick.
 
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Thanks, one last question. What do you mean by the slightly better turbo mode? I'm surprised I haven't come across this term as I've done hours on end of research. Again, thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
 
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Without getting too jargon-y, both Intel and AMD CPUs have a base clock speed and an ability to run faster than this, or turbo mode. Intel Turbo Boost (great name guys) can speed up some cores based on the overall usage. As an example, if something was heavily using all 4 cores on a processor, it might not be able to boost at all. If something was heavily using 1 core, but not the other 3, it would be able to use the maximum turbo boost frequency available.

Don't quote me on these numbers, as I'm really no expert in the specifics, but -
An i5-4430 (base 3.0Ghz) with all 4 cores being used is capped at 3.0Ghz. When using only 1or2 cores, it can go up to 3.2Ghz
An i5-4570 (base 3.2Ghz) with all 4 cores being used can turbo to 3.4Ghz. When using only 1o2 cores, it can go up to 3.6Ghz.

In the real world, that probably won't make the world of difference, but it's quite a nice technology.
 
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