Supahos :
They aren't testing to see if those sticks are compatible with YOUR computer they are testing to see if those sticks are compatible with each other. Not all ram (even the same model) works with all other ram. Single sticks don't need to be tested with other sticks b/c they are single sticks,
As I suspected, this is a bigotry and cult of belief. Somebody is making money on spreading beliefs. Do you hear that I tell you that memory sticks are connected to controller rather than to each other? They can only be tested by attaching them to another controller. Wheter slightest variations in parameters make a big difference, you should look at the compatibility between you memory and controller. Instead of saying that [strike]"There is no two identical sticks"[/strike], you should repeat that
"There are no two identical controllers" and fine-tune your sticks to exactly my controller. Adjusting for another controller may have opposite effect: the best combination for that controller may be worst for the mine (some unnoticable variations make a huge difference, remember?). Furthermore, the sticks may be plugged into different slots on by board - this also makes a big difference. The board delays are huge and plugging multiple sticks into one channel degrades it sighificantly, from
7-7-7 to 8-8-8. The board delays also vary with temperature. Controller adjusts to them dynamically. That is, controller understands that all sticks are different and adjusts to your sticks even dynamically. Which parameters are not accounted?
Supahos :
There are some standards for compatibility but those standards are for terribly slow memory, any decent memory is faster than those specs, and getting them inside the specs doesn't guarantee they will work with another stick.
Which requirements are needed besides compatibility with controller? Why do you have have up to date specs for the controller (so that you do not need to test sticks against it) but old specifications for the new technology (multichannel is relatively recent)?
Supahos :
As far as working with your controller... the memory controllers are now ON THE CPU so its pretty simple to test
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If they had my CPU, so its pretty simple to have my board to test, right?
Supahos :
Again your controller is NOT on your board, just the socket is. All memory controls are handled by the CPU in both AMD and Intel rigs for the (last 2 generations on AMD and last 3 on intel).
I know that unwieldy erudition is demonstrated to hide information. Just one question: where is my CPU located if not on the board? Can we ask people to decide: "controller is in CPU, CPU is on the board, is controller on the board"? Ok, another question: what makes the difference (between having controller in CPU or in a separate chip, between CPU and memory)? Do you think that packaging makes the big difference for the circuitry?
Supahos :
The board compatibility list is pretty much useless today, if they don't work it's b/c of the bios on the board, not the sticks themselves.
I wonder: why such huge board delays make huge difference but memories, produced according to the same specifications as the boards, are not compatible, after they are compatible with the borads. How is this possible?
Supahos :
The memory is all different you realize there are billions of transistors on a stick of memory, a few here or there being different will cause them not to work together which is why the compatibility must be tested on multi stick kits. lets see you do the same thing 23 billion times in a 1 inch area and get it right 100% of the time
You can disregard the transistors, located in the memory controller, very well. Furthermore, do you remember that memory is attached to the memory controller rather than another memory (and lines are running over the board, which "does not matter")? If interface does not matter then why isolated internals are all important? Why billions of CPU transistors do not matter, why trillions of hard disk cells don't matter? There are other pieces in my PC, not certified to work together. Why to test only against some of the things, which are isolated from each other?