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December 11, 2013 3:46:56 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Next few weeks (before Christmas)
Budget Range: Like to keep under $1000 ($800 ideal)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: HTPC/gaming use. Will mostly be for media center, streaming and playing some games.
Are you buying a monitor: No, using TV 50in Panasonic Plasma
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Nope
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, HTPC case, SSD
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Additional Comments: Having a quiet PC is key for this as it will be in my living room, also I'm limited in size for a case. System will be connected to an onkyo home theater receiver. I have a large library of FLAC music and will be digitizing a large DVD collection. The system will be connected to my NAS so on-board storage is not a necessity.

Case: I'm very restricted here because I only have a slot approximately, 19" Wide, and 15" Deep.

CPU: Was thinking haswell i5?

CPU cooler: Do I need one?

Motherboard: Don't need WIFI, but wouldn't hate it as this will be hard-wired into my network,

RAM: 8gb should do.

SSD: Going to be getting a 120-128GB SSD,
- All other storage will be used from my main media server which has 8TB

Video Card: I'm a bit lost on this one to be honest, haven't kept up with recent generation cards, and looking for something that will be quietish, but powerful and will keep cool.

- Will be purchasing other addons such as a XBOX 360 wireless controller receiver, Was thinking Windows media center or plex as the media hub

I'm looking for any and all build suggestions in my budget. Thanks a lot!

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December 11, 2013 4:04:44 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iSLn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iSLn/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iSLn/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($102.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $925.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-11 19:04 EST-0500)

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December 11, 2013 5:38:37 PM

Nothing wrong with iceclocks build (well, the motherboard is the wrong match for the CPU, but other than that it's cool) but I'd be inclined to skip the overclockable processor, and go a bit further into graphics. It's probably more than you need, but it does cover you for pretty much any game on the market at very respectable settings and framerates.
I also went for Haswell in part due to the improved internal graphics. The intention is to run it with a discrete card, but it's nice to have a bit more functionality in it if down the line you want to switch it to something more media-centre-y.

It's basically a budget build, but it's pretty great value for money when you consider what you are getting and how small a package it comes in

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($236.98 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $834.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-11 20:36 EST-0500)

Also, if you do decide you want Wifi, you'll need to pick a motherboard that has it.
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December 11, 2013 7:46:28 PM

Thanks for your help so far! I kinda liked bits and pieces from both builds and did a little research myself.
What do you think of this?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iZgM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iZgM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iZgM/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone SST-GD05B-USB3.0 (Black) HTPC Case ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-11 22:45 EST-0500)

A buddy has an extra copy of Windows 8.1 from work so I left that out.
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December 11, 2013 8:02:11 PM

looks good dude, ur ready to rock :)  if u require more help let me know
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December 11, 2013 8:12:08 PM

One last question... i5 4570 and GTX 760 GPU or i5 4670 and R9 270X GPU? Pricing is more or less the same.
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December 11, 2013 8:49:22 PM

The 4570 and the GTX 760

The GD 05 is a great case but remember space is very restricted so cooling becomes more important . Which ever graphics card you buy make sure it directs some of the cooling air out of the case
I would avoid the reference coolers that blow all the heated air out because they are too noisy
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December 12, 2013 5:07:05 AM

i agree 4570 and 760 mate

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December 12, 2013 6:05:50 AM

Thank you all for the advice! What a wonderful and knowledgeable community.
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December 12, 2013 7:10:58 AM

Just a couple of FYIs, some of which are quite significant.

You don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler if you aren't going to overclock. As neither your motherboard nor CPU supports it, it's an expense you don't need.

The cooler you picked, the Hyper 212 Evo, is very popular, but pretty tall. It won't fit in the Silverstone, even with the ODD removed -
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Limitation of CPU cooler - 70mm (remove ODD if you want install up to 120mm)

The Hyper 212 Evo is 159mm tall.

Any non k-series i5 will be pretty similar in performance. The best value for money is always the cheapest, but you can justify spending a bit more if the price gaps are small. In general, the 4670 (non-k) is the worst value for money in the i5 range.

The R9 270X is a rebranded and reworked HD7870. There is a small performance boost, but nowhere near enough to justify the current price gaps. The gap is narrowing, but for the time being the 270X doesn't make a lot of sense for anyone really.
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December 12, 2013 8:41:29 AM

Thanks for the heads-up rammy, so I was going to go with this:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jbOB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jbOB/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jbOB/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-GD05B-USB3.0 (Black) HTPC Case ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $831.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 11:40 EST-0500)

Can I just use the included cooler or will that be too noisy in a HTPC environment. Do you have a better suggestion for CPU cooling in this case?
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December 12, 2013 8:56:38 AM

The Intel stock cooler should be fine. Your best bet is to give it a shot, and if you don't like the noise levels then you can add something later. Tomshardware did a low profile CPU cooler review group test a while back, it might be worth a read for you if you do decide that-
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/low-profile-heat-sink-min...
Though frustratingly (or perhaps appropriately), despite that being on the UK portal, the dimensions are mixed between inches and mm, so it's a little confusing.
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December 12, 2013 9:27:26 AM

Awesome! I agree with your advice... looking at benchmarks, the i5 4570 seems plenty beefy for my applications. Also the GTX 760 is in another league from the 270X.
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December 12, 2013 9:43:52 AM

Looks like the Zalman’s CNPS8900 Quiet may be best for my needs if I decide a different cooler is necessary.
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December 12, 2013 11:01:30 AM

here this is what i recommand final build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jffm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jffm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jffm/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-GD05B-USB3.0 (Black) HTPC Case ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($86.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $903.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 14:01 EST-0500)

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December 12, 2013 11:11:49 AM

iceclock said:

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
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Case: Silverstone SST-GD05B-USB3.0 (Black) HTPC Case ($90.99 @ Newegg)


Also won't fit - 125mm tall.
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December 12, 2013 11:28:02 AM

I need a low profile aftermarket cooler if I want to go that route. I got the idea haha!
My final list is this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jdow
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jdow/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2jdow/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS8900 Quiet CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-GD05B-USB3.0 (Black) HTPC Case ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $861.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 14:24 EST-0500)

I have an old DVD/CD drive and copy of Windows 8.1
Thank you all so much for your recommendations!
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December 12, 2013 11:42:07 AM

looks good. anytime sir if u require help we are here.


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