Should I buy ASUS GTX 770 or 780?

raykillz

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So at first, I decided I was going to buy a
-ASUS DirectCU II GTX 770 2GB https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19650

And then, I decided I wanted to buy a
-ASUS DirectCU II GTX 780 3GB https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=20013
(I live in NZ so that's the store I'm going to buy my card)

Now, I'm stuck between choosing which one. I will be gaming on one monitor at 1920x1080. I won't be upgrading my GPU after this for a while until I must upgrade when my graphics card gets outdated and gets low FPS on future games that are more demanding. The most demanding game I have is probably BF4.

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Remember mate, for 1080p gaming the 780 isn't really your best choice, for 2k resolutions its more future proof but if you continue 1080p gaming it's honestly not the best expense of money. The 770 will last you roughly 3-5 years if you continue to just do solely 1080p gaming and no higher resolutions than that not to mention it being $120 less.

Basically if you buy the 780 you'll get roughly 10 or so fps more in 1080p gaming compared to the 770, however the 770 can go above 60fps maxed out on all AAA games today except for Crysis 3 which'll be 50-60fps. Notice this is for $120 cheaper than the 780 so its up to you. Only reason BF4 would say it uses more VRAM is to those who do multi-screen gaming, which alot of BF4 players do, for the...

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I would say the GTX 770 as the 780 is ~$120 higher and outperforms the 770 by about ~10 frames on most games. Yes, the 780 will last longer, however I would say save the $120 now and put it towards your next GPU.
 

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I play bf4 with my gtx 760 at 65fps on 1080. i overclocked it to 1306mhz though. The 770 would handle bf4 great and the 780 even better. the 780 is more future proof and like you said it'll be a long time til you will upgrade again, so id go with the 780. If money weren't an issue id even go with the 780ti to future proof further but thats getting into overkill territory.
 

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Yes, the 780 is more future proof than the 770, however it carries a $120 price premium. If you can afford the 780, go for it, its a great card and will last a long time. But if you would have to drop money off other components or stretch your budget to get the 780, stick with the 770 as it too will last quite a long time.
 

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I have the money for the 780, just not sure if it's worth the money.
 

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I'm inclined to say no, as the 770 kills anything at 1080p right now. I personally would say the 770, being a student on a budget, but for you go for it if you want to avoid upgrading for maybe 6 months longer or really care about those extra ~10 FPS. Also, if you intend to game above 1080p while you have this card DEFINITELY go with the 780, the 770 has major issues above 1080p

 

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I'm only planning to play on one monitor and on 1080p. This is my first upgrade since my GTX 570 became faulty. How often are GPU's needed to be upgraded?
 

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if you continue to do one monitor 1080p gaming I'd presume the 770 will last you 3-5 years depending on how well its cooled and its environment.

In terms of getting the ASUS... personally I would rather get the EVGA 770 or the most powerful of them all the MSI N770 Lightning. currently on newegg SURPRISINGLY its only $359 when it should be roughly 400+ I would suggest get the n770 lightning, MSI are known to build high quality cards however EVGA has customer service which is amazing, possibly the best of the after market creators out there in terms of GPU.

Don't get the ASUS thingyy they have been known to report VRAM and artifacting issues. Not to mention MSI has better aftermarket coolers than them

P.S for 1080p gaming on one monitor the 780 honestly just isn't worth the hassle nor the money, 780 is built more toward 2-3 screen setups rather than 1080p. Though if you want to be a little future proof the R9 280x is also a good candidate because of its 348-bit, larger amount of processors and 3GB of VRAM however the 770 performs better than the R9 280x in 1080p gaming. Not to mention Nvidia's drivers compared to AMDs(Dont scold me on the drivers issue, its just my opinion)
 

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I haven't heard anything about those issues, but then again I haven't spent much time looking into them. The Asus card does, however, have the best aftermarket cooler at the moment in terms of balance between noise and performance. That being said, I myself own the Gigabyte 770, and couldn't be happier with it. I would recommend against the N770, seeing as you can OC yourself, but if you want the extra OC without having to do it yourself, go for the N770. Regardless, the 770, regardless of which you get, should last you three to five years. I say get the 770, preferably the Gigabyte, Asus, or MSI non-lighting.

 

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Funny how you didn't reccomend the EVGA 770.. do you not like them? may just be a mistake but if you do please do tell how come

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130921
 

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ive seen many benchmarks showing the evga w/ acx cooler is superior to any other gpu cooling on the market. thus the reason i purchased mine. and has never gotten over 71C on 100% load overclocked at 1306mhz, which btw is fully manually overclock able to a point. thats the 760 im sure the 770 w/ acx cooling is just as good.
 

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Thanks for all the responses. The store only has
-ASUS https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19650
-Gigabyte https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19735
-EVGA https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19622
I would like the one that is cooled the best but can also be overclocked slightly. I also have a 30cm metal desk fan pointing at my case with the side panel off. Also, should I pay extra for the 4GB?
-Gigabyte https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19983
-EVGA https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19898

They don't have 4GB ASUS.
 

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Honestly its a combination of two reasons. One, EVGA is firmly rooted in my mind as THE company for reference cards, so I don't typically think of them for regular builds. Secondly, I forgot about them due to not being focused on computer parts due to finishing an English essay atm.
 

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do not! I repeat do not pay for the 4GB version of the 770, becuase of the bit size of the 770 the bandwith isn't fast enough to fully utilize and at most youll only get roughly 2.8GB of usable VRAM. 2GB VRAM is just enough for 1080p.

I would suggest wait holy crap.. your paying $570 for these wow.. thats the price of a 780 ouch.. oh my gosh.. I looked at the website some more and the 780 there is $800... well you said you can pay for it so I guess meh..

Anyway any of the three would be a great choice though I'd highly suggest the EVGA one, because it's quiet, can be OCed easily and their RMA system is amazing in case you get a DOA not to mention that warranty hard to pass up.
 

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I would say the 2GB Asus 770. It is cheaper than the EVGA, and from what I have heard is quieter and cools better, leading to better OC. As far as issues are concerned, the card does come with a warranty, so there's that.

Edit: I see you're in New Zealand, but holy crap $500 USD is a heck of a lot to pay for a 770. If you guys have Boxing Day I would suggest waiting for that, but if not then get the Asus. At the end of the day you are paying a heck of a lot of money for a 770.
 

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It's 500 NZD :p
 

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Oh. Now I feel dumb.
 

raykillz

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Here are my specs:
Greatwall PSU 750w
Intel i7 2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz
1279MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 - Faulty (EVGA)
CM Hyper 212x
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68AP-D3 (Socket 1155)
931GB Seagate ST31000524AS (SATA)
ASUS Xonar D2X
Razer Imperator 2012
Razer Lycosa

My mobo only has PCIe 2.0 but I heard that it doesn't matter as of right now. Still stuck between choosing EVGA or the ASUS...
 

raykillz

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Still insanely expensive though!
 

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Your mobo has a PCI-e 16x slot, so you should be fine for a single GPU setup. Honestly, it comes down to this:

EVGA:

Better customer support
Longer warranty (I think)
Better software

Asus

Cheaper
Better cooling (quieter and slightly more effective)
Better OC as a result of better cooling
Sexier (IMO)

Whichever one you pick, I'm sure you will be happy with. Both are amazing cards with great features and awesome gaming performance. I have to go to bed now so I'll leave you to decide. Happy gaming!
 

lp231

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8 is higher than 7, therefore GTX 780 is better than GTX 770. Get GTX 780! :D

I would grab a R9-280x, has 3GB of vram. BF4 likes to munch on vram. Amount is in New Zealand Dollars
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($452.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Total: $452.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 17:30 NZDT+1300)

Asus GTX770 2GB
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Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($573.84 @ PB Technologies)
Total: $573.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 17:37 NZDT+1300)

Gigabyte R9-290 4GB
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Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($618.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Total: $618.00
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(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 17:38 NZDT+1300)

GTX 770 4GB
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($631.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Total: $631.00
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(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-12 17:39 NZDT+1300)