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hnefatl

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I have an old PC, with low specs and a Dell 0TP406 motherboard. I want to give it an upgrade to a mid-end gaming computer, so I'm looking for a CPU and Graphics card. I've found two I'm pretty set on:

Gigabyte 2GB nVidia GTX 650Ti Boost Edition PCI-E
AMD FX8350 Black Edition 8 Core Processor (4.0/4.2GHz, 8MB Level 3 Cache, 8MB Level 2 Cache, Socket AM3+, 125W

Sorry to just throw information at you but I hope you understand it better than I do!

I'm wanting to find out whether those components are compatible with my old motherboard primarily, but also any comments you have on the quality of these components would be greatly appreciated!

Edit: If they are not compatible, is there a dcent motherboard out there that is? I found these two:
Asus M5A97 R2.0 Motherboard
[strike]Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Motherboard[/strike]

which are apparently compatible, but I'm not sure how easy it'll be to get my other components I already have in the old computer to fit it. Again, any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks for any help,
hnefatl
 
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Scremin34Egl

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Both those asus boards are good and the sabertooth is even better but more expensive
Another good board for the money is the gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3, http://, it is more expensive than the asus M5a97 R2.0 but has sli/crossfire, amd's flagship chipset and more features, but then again, it all comes down to whether you are going to use it of course

I recommend you upgrade your case, as, not quite sure how it looks, but most prebuilt systems are quite compact and might not have proper airflow, which you will really need for a high powered processor like the 8350.

What psu do you have?, you might need a new one as I doubt it will have a decent one with a 6 pin connector needed to power a 650ti. If you can get a good branded 500W psu, you should be fine

You can also consider saving some cash and getting an fx8320. Not much of a difference except for a higher clock speed and overclocking headroom, http://
 
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Dell 0TP406 Mainboards size is BTX Form Factor. This size is not compatible with an ATX Form Factor size Asus M5A97 R2.0 Motherboard. You would probably need to buy an bare Mid-Tower PC case. A decent one can be purchased for under $50.

BTX (for Balanced Technology eXtended) is a form factor for motherboards, originally intended to be the replacement for the aging ATX motherboard form factor in late 2004 and early 2005. However, future development of BTX retail products by Intel was canceled in September 2006. You can read more about it on Wilki (BTX (form factor) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

You might also need to buy:
SATA Hard Drive
DDR3 Memory
Windows operating system.
 
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hnefatl

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Right, is there any way to find out whether it'll fit? I'm trying to do this as efficiently as possible, so not buying a new disk drive etc if I can help it; if I buy a new case, I'd have to buy new everything pretty much, wouldn't I?

I've got the PC open in front of me now, so I can check measurements or whatever if I need to.

Thanks for the ongoing help!
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That board is an atx form factor and I doubt any prebuilt system will fit it comfortably, also airflow might be a problem especially if you are going with an fx8350 which can get hot. If you know the model of the system you can post it here including the specs like psu, ram etc.
 
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hnefatl

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Sorry, you're right of course - I hadn't had a look at where the outputs of the board are - they're in completely the wrong place!

My current model is an XPS 420. There are no custom thingamabobs inside, only maybe a new hard drive, but that's just slotted in regularly.

I can't find any detailed specs for it, maybe you'll have more luck? As I said, I'd rather keep most of the working things, and just replace what's needed. To this end, I've absolutely no idea what sort of case I'd need - I hadn't looked at them before. I'm sorry, but once again do you have any suggestions? I'm clueless when it comes to computer hardware!

Edit: And I only have a 3 pin PSU, you're right, so I'll need to buy a new unit.

Thanks again,
hnefatl
 
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That case is a mini atx and might not be suited for an atx board, also it does look kind of cramped. The only parts I would salvage is the hard drive and optical drive. Ram is ddr2, you will need ddr3

Heres a build you might consider:

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card
PSU: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Case: Choose anyone from the list............http://

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Total: £437.79 (without case)

You could also look at an fx 6300, which is great for a budget gamer, http://. The reason I chose the 7850 is because it offers similar/same performance as the 650ti boost and is much lower priced

Note, you may want to check if your operating system is 64bit. If it is 32bit, you will only make use of 4gb ram from the total 8gb.
 
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hnefatl

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Wow, that's perfect!

I'm going to buy a new OS, Windows 7, as the current one is Vista :pfff:, so I can get the 64 bit version then.

Thanks a lot, that's been ridiculously useful! I'd been trying to do this on my own and getting nowhere.

With a plethora of thanks,
hnefatl
 
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No problem, always willing to help
 
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hnefatl

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Sorry, just found a quick problem.

Can I just check which PSU you meant? There's this one, and this one.

The second one matched your description, but had quite bad reviews, whereas the other one had good reviews.

Also, I live in the UK - can you confirm whether the PSU has a UK plug, or whether I'll need to buy an adapter? I couldn't find any information regarding that on the first one.

Thanks again,
hnefatl
 
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I actually meant the first one, which is the 550W and not the 750W. The 750W would be an overkill for your system and a waste of money.
This one here:
this
As for the psu itself, it is a very good psu and you should have no problems with. It is actually a seasonic s12II and seasonic make one of the best power supplies. It is also one of the cheapest but good quality 550W units around. I personally haven't heard anything bad about them. I would highly recommend it

If you are buying it from the UK then it should come with the power cable used in your country, else you could use the one from your other computer or just buy one. Its relatively cheap
 
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hnefatl

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Ok, I've pretty much finished my selecting, I just hoped you could quickly check that all the things are going to be compatible? I've kept almost everything you suggested:

CPU: here.
GPU: here.
Motherboard: here.
RAM: here.
HDD: here.
PSU: here.
Case: here.

I've swapped the RAM and PSU for slightly cheaper versions, I think these should work fine?
And I decided to leave out the CPU cooler - I've no intention of overclocking, so I'd rather save the £26! I've heard it isn't required unless you intend to overclock, but if it is, please tell me!

Thank you again,
hnefatl
 
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Everything looks good, by the way I found a 7870 ghz edition from dabs for about the same price as that 7850 but much better in terms of performance and it comes with 3 free games
Here, have a look at it:
http://

The ram is fine and the psu is the same one I recommended so no problem their

As for the cooler, I see your case has allot of fans so you should be fine with the stock. The reason why I suggested an aftermarket cooler is because people say the stock coolers are crap and run loud and the 8320 does use allot of power, 125W

Id say everything looks good to go, but you may want to consider the 7870 shown above
 
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