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December 13, 2013 1:38:20 PM

Hey all,

Just built a PC for my friend last night, but I think his 4670k's temps are a little high. I'm using a Hyper 212 EVO with it. Idle temps were high 30's to low 40's. I ran Intel Burn Test and was getting a range of temps from 82-88C. I took this picture about 15 minutes after I stopped the test:



CPU is at stock.

Read the sticky so that is why I'm posting. Is this a little high? I think I accidentally lifted up the heatsink a little when installing, which definitely would allow some air bubbles in. Is it high enough where I should reconsider reapplying the TIM?

Thanks!

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December 13, 2013 1:43:16 PM

With those temps, i would say yes, even the stock cooler should be able to cool it down more.

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December 13, 2013 4:56:56 PM

Savagearms said:
You will most definitely want to reapply the Thermal Paste on that...That is way too hot for normal operation.

Also, you may want to follow this guide on how to apply the paste:

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...



Strange, I left it on for about 2 hours, and I just came back and these are the temps.


When I first said that my normal idle temps were high 30's low 40's, that was from when I looked maybe 20 minutes after playing a game. I noticed that after I ran the burn test, it stayed in the low 40's for a while, never getting any lower, but when I returned these were what I am getting now. Oddly enough, I played Metro 2033 for about 20 minutes and all cores were at max (according to HWMonitor) 63-65C, however as soon as I minimized the game I saw mid-high 50's, so I'd imagine that is what I'm averaging during games. High 50's.


I can't really tell, and I'll end up reapplying the TIM anyway, but I have to leave now and I'm not going to be able to play with this computer for a week. Is it okay to game on? The temps are high, but they aren't a serious problem if he decides to game on it right? During IBT temps were 82-88C, so I don't think games will get that high, but should he not use it that much for the week?

Appreciate the advice for this beginner builder!
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December 13, 2013 5:30:41 PM

apav said:
Savagearms said:
You will most definitely want to reapply the Thermal Paste on that...That is way too hot for normal operation.

Also, you may want to follow this guide on how to apply the paste:

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...


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When I first said that my normal idle temps were high 30's low 40's, that was from when I looked maybe 20 minutes after playing a game. I noticed that after I ran the burn test, it stayed in the low 40's for a while, never getting any lower, but when I returned these were what I am getting now. I can't really tell, and I'll end up reapplying the TIM anyway, but I have to leave now and I'm not going to be able to play with this computer for a week. Is it okay to game on? The temps are high, but they aren't a serious problem if he decides to game on it right? During IBT temps were 82-88C, so I don't think games will get that high, but should he not use it that much for the week?

Appreciate the advice for this beginner builder!


Hey Apav.

My rule of thumb for Haswell temps would be:

Idle: 20c - 40c
Load: 70c - 90c.

(TjMax is around 102c on Haswell and Ivy Bridge CPU's)

You can still game- your temps are high, and personally a bit too much for my liking (its still all in spec however), but you'll be 100% fine. If I were you- if you plan on upgrading the rig in the future, I would recommend picking up a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler, as its only around $30 and its a lot quiter and a bit better than the Intel stock cooler.

Could you perhaps run a test with AIDA 64? It tends to be more optimized for Haswell CPU's due to the built in voltage controller on Haswell.

http://www.aida64.com/downloads

**OOPS, I thought you were running an Intel Stock Cooler, my mistake***
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December 13, 2013 5:36:00 PM

PCDave said:
apav said:
Savagearms said:
You will most definitely want to reapply the Thermal Paste on that...That is way too hot for normal operation.

Also, you may want to follow this guide on how to apply the paste:

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...


-snip-

When I first said that my normal idle temps were high 30's low 40's, that was from when I looked maybe 20 minutes after playing a game. I noticed that after I ran the burn test, it stayed in the low 40's for a while, never getting any lower, but when I returned these were what I am getting now. I can't really tell, and I'll end up reapplying the TIM anyway, but I have to leave now and I'm not going to be able to play with this computer for a week. Is it okay to game on? The temps are high, but they aren't a serious problem if he decides to game on it right? During IBT temps were 82-88C, so I don't think games will get that high, but should he not use it that much for the week?

Appreciate the advice for this beginner builder!


Hey Apav.

My rule of thumb for Haswell temps would be:

Idle: 20c - 40c
Load: 70c - 90c.

(TjMax is around 102c on Haswell and Ivy Bridge CPU's)

You can still game- your temps are high, and personally a bit too much for my liking (its still all in spec however), but you'll be 100% fine. If I were you- if you plan on upgrading the rig in the future, I would recommend picking up a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler, as its only around $30 and its a lot quiter and a bit better than the Intel stock cooler.

Could you perhaps run a test with AIDA 64? It tends to be more optimized for Haswell CPU's due to the built in voltage controller on Haswell.

http://www.aida64.com/downloads


Hello, thanks for replying. You'll be happy to know that I am using the Hyper 212 EVO with this computer. This seems to be my luck with a few of the computers I have built. High cpu idle temps, but cool load temps. If you are wondering what I am talking about, I just edited my post above, adding this line.

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Oddly enough, I played Metro 2033 for about 20 minutes and all cores were at max (according to HWMonitor) 63-65C, however as soon as I minimized the game I saw mid-high 50's, so I'd imagine that is what I'm averaging during games. High 50's.


While it's nice that is is cooler than what I was expecting, it doesn't match up to the idle tests, and IBT did make temps reach in the 80's. Maybe it was just Metro not fully using my CPU. I will run a test with the software you provided a link for and report back.
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December 13, 2013 6:24:31 PM

Here are the results.



Again this is an i5 4670k running at stock. Here is the case:
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/shin...

Only one 200mm fan so maybe it's poor airflow, he does have a 770 in there. But the top is mesh where more fans can go, so it's semi open. I still feel like the Hyper 212 Evo should be keeping it cooler at idle.
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December 13, 2013 8:37:44 PM

Your temps look pretty good actually- on my stock 3570k i get around 30c stock and 75c load- and thats with a Hyper 212+.

I do have dual 140mm fans in the front, and a 140mm exhaust fan in the back- so perhaps you should introduce more fans in the system?

I always recommend positive airflow, more intake and exhaust- or same amount would also be good. This reduces the amount of dust in the system- and dust is really annoying in computers as we all know.
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December 13, 2013 8:57:22 PM

Ya! the temperature is bit high........So many people having same problem...who r using tis " Hyper 212 EVO"

i suggest u to get a better CPU cooler
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