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Upgrading from GTX 260, Gigabyte GTX 760 or Gainward GTX 770?

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December 13, 2013 2:39:26 PM

Hi, I'm trying to update my cranky old PC for Christmas, it is an Intel E6400 mounted on an Asus P5B Deluxe, with a more recent nVidia GTX 260 by Zotac.

I currently use my pc primarily for gaming @1080p, not going to SLI, and OC only if strictly necessary (later in time), secondly as a student computer engineer, so I make sporadic intesive calculations, mid to frequent programming (mainly android and java) etc.

I'm planning to buy a Seasonic 620W PSU, a Gigabyte Z87 Extreme4 mobo and an Intel 4670K CPU, with 2x4GB @ 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance RAM, recycling my actual case.

As per title, I'm only undecided about the graphics card. I live in italy, so italian stores (ex. e-key.it), coupled with amazon.it, are my preferred means to buy them.

I've been selecting the graphics card for a week now, and I've come to a head-to-head between a Gigabyte GTX 760 at 216,10€ and a Gainward GTX 770 (not phantom, the base one) at 268,80€.
Amazon currently has the Asus GTX 760 at 217,79€ and the GTX 770, by Asus too, at 287,09€.
I was wondering if you could help me decide if:
1) the GTX 770 is worth the 70€ premium (considering the same brand)
2) the Gainward GTX 770 is worth its price, since the only reviews I've found talk about the Phantom version.
I'd really like not to "waste" money: I'm not used with anti-aliasing that much, I'd like a satisfying upgrade to my pc, and I'd like not to upgrade it for the most time possible, so if the 770 repays in "satisfaction", I'll be glad to buy it, maybe in a second time since it's a lot of money.

Thanks for your time, your answers will be very helpful!!

P.S.: I can't find the Radeon R9 780x at a valuable price here, that's why I haven't talked about ATI.

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a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 2:47:42 PM
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well in terms of the 1080p the GTX 770 defeats the R9 280x. The 760 is alot worse than both the R9 280 and the 770, simply by comparing benchmarks and it's specs.

I've never heard of Gainward either.. what other aftermarket 770s are available to you.

If the MSI lightning is avvailable I'd highly suggest since it has a great cooler and the highest clock of most if not all the 770s.
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 2:47:45 PM

1. Yes
2. The other 770's are just clocked higher and have better cooling solutions. I don't you need to buy the Phantom 770s. The standard 770 is a boss as is.

For future posts, Gainward:
http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapc.php?lang=en
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December 13, 2013 3:20:44 PM

I could even buy a Gigabyte GTX 770 (in italian here, if you want to check it out)
but that would be the same 70€ plus... what advantage do you guys think I would gain in buying the GB instead of the plain Gainward?
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 3:48:05 PM

FabTheZen said:
I could even buy a Gigabyte GTX 770 (in italian here, if you want to check it out)
but that would be the same 70€ plus... what advantage do you guys think I would gain in buying the GB instead of the plain Gainward?


well to what you said was the gainward phantom which to me.. looks like it has no fans at all..

The Gigabyte is a well-known aftermarket company especially for their 3x winforce coolers which is basically 3 100mm fans cooling the GPU. They cool very well though can be noisy at time because of the 3 fans.. what other brands are available?
December 13, 2013 3:50:55 PM

This should give you all the brands available, sorted by ascending price: http://www.e-key.it/catalog.aspx?search=gtx+770
Also, I've been talking about the PLAIN Gainward, the Phantom costs even more than the GB. I'd like not to spend 300€ for my graphics card, I'd hit more than 700€ which is more that i can afford right now... I'd really like some direct experience with the Gw, has anyone tried it yet?
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 4:07:41 PM

FabTheZen said:
This should give you all the brands available, sorted by ascending price: http://www.e-key.it/catalog.aspx?search=gtx+770
Also, I've been talking about the PLAIN Gainward, the Phantom costs even more than the GB. I'd like not to spend 300€ for my graphics card, I'd hit more than 700€ which is more that i can afford right now...


The phantom looks so weird.. the cooling solution is soo stupid imo.. I mean the fan is behind! the bloody heatsink.. this means that the fans will put hot air from the gpu and end up heating up the heatsink keeping the card hot.. I could be wrong but thats exactly how it looks to me.

Anyway onto your topic, seeing as how you dont want to spend of 300euros your best bet, according to the website you gave me is the ASUS GTX 770 Direct CU II. It has one of the best and quietest cooling solutions and can easily be overclocked to the clocks of one of those EVGA one's which are more expensive.
Its here: http://www.e-key.it/prod-vga-asus-gtx770-dc2oc-2gd5-nvi...
December 13, 2013 4:36:36 PM

thank you blankinsanity, anyway the asus costs 20€ more than the gainward NOT phantom, which has normal fans. Maybe I haven't been clear, I don't want the gainward phantom, but I was thinking about the standard gainward, as you can see better here: http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=911&lang=en
So you're telling me the ASUS performs better than the Gigabyte? Is the ASUS slim enough to allow SLI? [tho I know 99% I won't do any SLI ever]
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 4:51:58 PM

FabTheZen said:
thank you blankinsanity, anyway the asus costs 20€ more than the gainward NOT phantom, which has normal fans. Maybe I haven't been clear, I don't want the gainward phantom, but I was thinking about the standard gainward, as you can see better here: http://www.gainward.com/main/vgapro.php?id=911&lang=en
So you're telling me the ASUS performs better than the Gigabyte? Is the ASUS slim enough to allow SLI? [tho I know 99% I won't do any SLI ever]


ik well enough you weren't talking about the phantoms that was just my input on them. The ASUS proably will have enough space depending on your motherboard however the EVGA one's are the slimmest. For being italian your english is very good btw might I say. The ASUS performs better than the Gigabyte in terms of being quiet and probably quiet. imo the ASUS has a much larger quiet to cooling ratio than the Gigabyte would. Also the Gigabyte is very long compared to the ASUS. be wary however these a large cards and you should make sure they can fit in your computer, the ASUS, the Gigabyte and the Gainward are quite large

You should probably consider SLi in the future, the GTX 770 in sli performs roughly the same as the GTX Titan(a $1,000USD GPU) maybe even better depending on the aftermarket one you get and aswell if you overclock them

P.S the ASUS is a much better overclocker than the Gigabyte due to the quiet to cooling ratio imo
December 13, 2013 5:23:13 PM

Thanks for your tips! And, I'm glad it doesn't show that much that I'm italian :D  (not proud these days eh)
My case is a cooler master mystique (this one: http://bit.ly/1h8lJgK), I hope it all fits well inside there...!
I'll wait for someone to share their experience about Gainward, if nobody answers I'll pick your post as solution, though my real question was about the gainward 770 being a better buy than the gigabyte 760, you know... it's already out of my budget, if I opt for the ASUS that means I'll have to wait. The sum I'm going to invest here is around 720€, which translates in 954USD, and I'm not even building from scratch!

Now it's late here, i'll check tomorrow for some more, juicy answers.
Thank you again, see you around!
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2013 5:34:32 PM

FabTheZen said:
Thanks for your tips! And, I'm glad it doesn't show that much that I'm italian :D  (not proud these days eh)
My case is a cooler master mystique (this one: http://bit.ly/1h8lJgK), I hope it all fits well inside there...!
I'll wait for someone to share their experience about Gainward, if nobody answers I'll pick your post as solution, though my real question was about the gainward 770 being a better buy than the gigabyte 760, you know... it's already out of my budget, if I opt for the ASUS that means I'll have to wait. The sum I'm going to invest here is around 720€, which translates in 954USD, and I'm not even building from scratch!

Now it's late here, i'll check tomorrow for some more, juicy answers.
Thank you again, see you around!


The width of that case is 18.90" however thats from end to end, not expansion slot to drive bay which is where you need to measure.

Measure from your expansion slot to the drive bay and compare it to the length of the card then you can determine if it fits. However I believe it should fit none the less
December 14, 2013 7:17:10 AM

Thank you BlankInsanity, I'll make the measurements (anyway I've seen the asus gtx 770 is just 0.2 in of my gtx 260)
Stated that I'll need a GTX 770, probably ASUS, I'm going to buy it later on (hopefully not too late!).

I now need to know if by changing only the (mobo)+CPU I'm going to solve most of the problems I have with games nowadays, i.e. a fixed quantity of lag in games like AC3, that reaches a maximum of 30 fps, no matter if I choose to lower the res to 800x600 or go full scale @1080p, AA etc.

Keep in mind that a lot of games I play don't have any problem playing at lowest settings, max res. Will the i5 fix that for me? :D 

I hope this is a good place to make this second question, I don't want to duplicate my threads and go to CPU asking the same thing.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2013 7:39:31 AM

FabTheZen said:
Thank you BlankInsanity, I'll make the measurements (anyway I've seen the asus gtx 770 is just 0.2 in of my gtx 260)
Stated that I'll need a GTX 770, probably ASUS, I'm going to buy it later on (hopefully not too late!).

I now need to know if by changing only the (mobo)+CPU I'm going to solve most of the problems I have with games nowadays, i.e. a fixed quantity of lag in games like AC3, that reaches a maximum of 30 fps, no matter if I choose to lower the res to 800x600 or go full scale @1080p, AA etc.

Keep in mind that a lot of games I play don't have any problem playing at lowest settings, max res. Will the i5 fix that for me? :D 

I hope this is a good place to make this second question, I don't want to duplicate my threads and go to CPU asking the same thing.


not its not really okay to ask another question but I however don't mind and ill be glad to answer.

AC3 was known to be a very bad optimized game so hearing things like that isn't out of the ordinary and is quite normal, however try other games and you should see a difference in fps from 800x600 to 1080p as well as quality.

Upgrading your CPU can bring alot of advantages such are more effeciency so your rig doesn't use alot of power, more power in terms of Ghz and cache not to mention the number of cores oh and lastly the prevention of GPU bottlenecking

The core i5 is a great CPU(link to CPU is Here), effecient and powerful depending on the one your getting. People would say get an AMD alternative for $100 cheaper however.. there's a reason why there are so cheap.

I'd suggest the Core i5-3570K, it's a highly used core i5 chip and it's also unlocked in case you want to overclock in the future, however DON'T try to overclock with the stock cooler, if you wish to overclock I'd suggest this.

Also for a motherboard I would suggest the AsRock Z77 Extreme 4, hmm it seems your italian website doesn't sell motherboards. See if you can find the equivelant of this on an italian retailer.
December 14, 2013 8:20:19 AM

Blank, thanks again (!) for the great answers; I know the 3570k is more prone to OC than the 4670k, but as the price is now the same for the two CPUs, I'd be prone to buy the newer, you know, to be just a bit more "on the edge", don't you think? I also chose the same mobo you proposed me, only with the z87 chipset ofc.
That site has the mobo listed in the italian named section, "schede madri" :p 
I found out the GB is bigger than what could fit in my case, at least from a first measurement, I am forced to change the case if I choose it, maybe the ASUS fits in, but for now I think i'll settle with the CPU!
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2013 8:34:08 AM

FabTheZen said:
Blank, thanks again (!) for the great answers; I know the 3570k is more prone to OC than the 4670k, but as the price is now the same for the two CPUs, I'd be prone to buy the newer, you know, to be just a bit more "on the edge", don't you think? I also chose the same mobo you proposed me, only with the z87 chipset ofc.
That site has the mobo listed in the italian named section, "schede madri" :p 
I found out the GB is bigger than what could fit in my case, at least from a first measurement, I am forced to change the case if I choose it, maybe the ASUS fits in, but for now I think i'll settle with the CPU!

Just remember that the 4670k is 4th generation and uses socket 1150, this gives you a much larger library of motherboards to choose from however they can be pricer than the 1155 socket. Anyway the AsRock Z87 Extreme 4 will work just fine.

I myself own a Core i7 2600k and im getting the Asrock z77 extreme 4 though. The Core i5 4670k will do you just fine
December 14, 2013 8:41:20 AM

Thanks Blank! Approved!
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2013 8:59:56 AM

FabTheZen said:
Thanks Blank! Approved!


np glad I could help
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