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December 14, 2013 7:53:56 AM

So i have around £330 which is about $540 , i am looking for a gaming PC which can play most games on High with at least 720p . i don't mind if the quality is on medium.

i have to buy everything from the motherboard to the PSU all the way to the ram ,I'm starting from scratch.

Any help and guidance would be great as its my first time doing this.

i don't mind what hard drive size along as its 200gb+

Thanks,Zaman

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December 14, 2013 8:04:52 AM

Nefos said:
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so buy a new PSU with EVO 212
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December 14, 2013 8:08:32 AM

I am really sorry, we had a bug here, all I saw was JJ ssss reee aaaa bb as
So I though that you were just playing with us, but it was a bug then
I made a gming PC before with FX 6300 and with HD 7770 before, one moment, I get something for you :) 
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December 14, 2013 8:11:27 AM

Nefos said:
I am really sorry, we had a bug here, all I saw was JJ ssss reee aaaa bb as
So I though that you were just playing with us, but it was a bug then
I made a gming PC before with FX 6300 and with HD 7770 before, one moment, I get something for you :) 

really that was exactly what i was looking at :D 
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December 14, 2013 8:13:29 AM

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2k97t

£333
you can upgrade it, although CPU is a little bit overkill, but futureproof
HD 7770 lets you play at 720p with most games at max or near max settings
1TB HDD, it does not worth to buy smaller HDD nowadays
4GB RAm is enough, but if you can then add 4 GB later on, 8 GB is a safe amount for futureproofing.
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December 14, 2013 8:19:04 AM

+ a copy of windows on top.
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December 14, 2013 8:22:27 AM

Nefos said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2k97t

£333
you can upgrade it, although CPU is a little bit overkill, but futureproof
HD 7770 lets you play at 720p with most games at max or near max settings
1TB HDD, it does not worth to buy smaller HDD nowadays
4GB RAm is enough, but if you can then add 4 GB later on, 8 GB is a safe amount for futureproofing.


could it play BF4 ? and yeah il be upgrading the ram and adding a SSD around about march time
also will i notice any improvement in gaming using windows 8 over windows 7
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December 14, 2013 8:23:44 AM

JOOK-D said:
+ a copy of windows on top.


already got a copy of windows 8 and 7
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December 14, 2013 8:27:13 AM

Well, ATM I nearly have the same setup ( FX 8320, does not matter at gaming, HD 7770 GHZ edition, 8GB ram, 1280x 1024 display) and so far I have no idea, how well, will it run BF3 (I have it) but with a muuuuuch weaker CPU (x2 265) it run well enough on High details ( with CPU bottleneck), but with the new CPU Black Ops 2 runs at stable 60 FPS with VSync and full settings, it never dipped below 60.
I go home and benchmark BF3 " just for you" :) 
But you will be able to play BF4 for sure, around Medium/High I guess:) 
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December 14, 2013 8:37:03 AM

Nefos said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2k97t

£333
you can upgrade it, although CPU is a little bit overkill, but futureproof
HD 7770 lets you play at 720p with most games at max or near max settings
1TB HDD, it does not worth to buy smaller HDD nowadays
4GB RAm is enough, but if you can then add 4 GB later on, 8 GB is a safe amount for futureproofing.


Nefos said:
Well, ATM I nearly have the same setup ( FX 8320, does not matter at gaming, HD 7770 GHZ edition, 8GB ram, 1280x 1024 display) and so far I have no idea, how well, will it run BF3 (I have it) but with a muuuuuch weaker CPU (x2 265) it run well enough on High details ( with CPU bottleneck), but with the new CPU Black Ops 2 runs at stable 60 FPS with VSync and full settings, it never dipped below 60.
I go home and benchmark BF3 " just for you" :) 
But you will be able to play BF4 for sure, around Medium/High I guess:) 


thanks for bench marking it for me , also can i ask do i need any fans or coolers for the CPU or GPU
also is it worth getting the 8320 over the 6300 will it feel a lot faster generally ?
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December 14, 2013 8:47:09 AM

The stock cooler is designed to cool the CPU at stock clocks with a good (= with 1-2 fans) ventillated house. As far as I know, both 8320 and 6300 has the same cooler, and it is fine for me so far
GPU has a decent cooler dont worry about it.
at iddling, I have a 6% CPU usage (moving around, generally towards 0%), at browsing ( loads of tabs with youtube and whatnot) I have 16%, so probably you wont feel a thing from FX 6300
At gaming, the gain would be only few FPS difference, cannot be seen by you

The reason why I went with FX 8320 is because I am doing programming, Virtual machines and Web browsing with multiple websites at the same time, so I went safe, and get 8 cores
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December 14, 2013 8:49:25 AM

Nefos said:
The stock cooler is designed to cool the CPU at stock clocks with a good (= with 1-2 fans) ventillated house. As far as I know, both 8320 and 6300 has the same cooler, and it is fine for me so far
GPU has a decent cooler dont worry about it.
at iddling, I have a 6% CPU usage (moving around, generally towards 0%), at browsing ( loads of tabs with youtube and whatnot) I have 16%, so probably you wont feel a thing from FX 6300
At gaming, the gain would be only few FPS difference, cannot be seen by you

The reason why I went with FX 8320 is because I am doing programming, Virtual machines and Web browsing with multiple websites at the same time, so I went safe, and get 8 cores


also is that motherboard upgradeable ?
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December 14, 2013 8:55:15 AM

Yes, although you can "only" add 16GB RAM (2x8GB), no multiple GPUs ( but we are talking about a budget build not necessary) and only 4 HDD and if I see well, No SSd support. although if required, you can change the motherboard later on if you have more money and in need of more than 16 GB of RAM ( that is huge) or multi GPUs, or SSD, but this Motherboard should work well with those components
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December 14, 2013 8:56:31 AM

Nefos said:
Yes, although you can "only" add 16GB RAM (2x8GB), no multiple GPUs ( but we are talking about a budget build not necessary) and only 4 HDD and if I see well, No SSd support. although if required, you can change the motherboard later on if you have more money and in need of more than 16 GB of RAM ( that is huge) or multi GPUs, or SSD, but this Motherboard should work well with those components


would it take 8 core cpu's ? and a usb 3.0 Pci ,also how much wold a motherboard with usb 3 be ?
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December 14, 2013 9:01:29 AM

it wont take 8 core CPU, they draw too much power, and it does not have a USB 3.0 but it would accept PCIE slot card
I amend it with a decent Motherboard, to see how much will it cost more
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2kal0

can support 8 core CPUs
can support SSD-s
32 GB max ram ( but it does not really matter for us)
and USb 3.0 headers built in
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December 14, 2013 9:08:28 AM

Nefos said:
it wont take 8 core CPU, they draw too much power, and it does not have a USB 3.0 but it would accept PCIE slot card
I amend it with a decent Motherboard, to see how much will it cost more
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2kal0

can support 8 core CPUs
can support SSD-s
32 GB max ram ( but it does not really matter for us)
and USb 3.0 headers built in


thats fine, i prefer that new motherboard also is the i5 3570 better than the fx -8120 ( i found that processor for £90 is that worth it ?)

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December 14, 2013 10:37:17 AM

first, 8320 and 3570 is around at the same level ( you can OC the 8320 easily to 8350 level) but noone advise the 8120, because that series of chip is legendarily bad, but wait for others opinion as well :) 
It does not really worth to buy HDD for less than £40, because you get 1TB for £40, and I think £5 worth 250 GB plus data
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December 14, 2013 10:41:13 AM

Nefos said:
first, 8320 and 3570 is around at the same level ( you can OC the 8320 easily to 8350 level) but noone advise the 8120, because that series of chip is legendarily bad, but wait for others opinion as well :) 
It does not really worth to buy HDD for less than £40, because you get 1TB for £40, and I think £5 worth 250 GB plus data


which do you recommend? i used game debate to compare them and the i5 is only 6% better but if I'm losing out on 4 more cores i really don't think its worth it as it cost 30 pounds
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December 14, 2013 11:46:44 AM

I use 8320, because of multitasking.
Actually there are the i5 3350P and 4430 Cpus at £130-£140
I would recommend 6300 because it is cheaper, can play games well enough (at 720p easily), and actually thats it, we are talking about a budget build to 720p, intel i5s are too expensive compared to their performance in gaming to recommend them :/ 
8320 would be overkill for you, but if you will feel need of an 8 core CPU ( I doubt it) then in 2014 a new FX series chip should come out, so it dont worry :) 
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December 14, 2013 1:50:08 PM

Yeah, 6300/8320 are the best bang for buck chips around. Also, to add to Nefos' point, the 6300 delivers very good framerates at 1080p just pair it up with a nice GPU.

Absolutely avoid the x1xx and x2xx FX chips, only look at x3xx (piledriver) chips.
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December 14, 2013 4:20:07 PM

I bought a AMD FX-8120 black edition for a real good price
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December 14, 2013 4:21:45 PM

Also if my build fine? And is my cpu fine? For gaming?
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December 14, 2013 4:37:46 PM

Zaman786Ahmad said:
Also if my build fine? And is my cpu fine? For gaming?


Not really. The 8120 is terrible.
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December 15, 2013 1:04:48 AM

would you explain it a little bit better? I have not heard anything about this chip before :/ 
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December 15, 2013 2:57:59 AM

JOOK-D said:
Zaman786Ahmad said:
Also if my build fine? And is my cpu fine? For gaming?


Not really. The 8120 is terrible.


really ? .... i just bought it also is this your opinion. I'm pretty rue it will be fine for me?right , all I'm doing is making a budget desktop for some occasional gaming no editing and extreme multi tasking I'm pretty sure it doesn't suck with 8 cores i doubt that ,but i know nothing :D 
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December 15, 2013 3:11:11 AM

it did not lived up for its name, but try it. if it wont be enough, then you should buy a 8320 later on
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December 15, 2013 3:22:22 AM

Nefos said:
it did not lived up for its name, but try it. if it wont be enough, then you should buy a 8320 later on


why is the 6350 better and also am i fine to start buying the parts ?
also why didn't it live upto its name ?
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December 15, 2013 3:32:07 AM

google it ( thats what I could do either, and look around the forum here)
6350 is the "best" 6 core CPU that AMD can offer, with higher clock rates
Yes, you would be, http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2kbdo , although I would change this build a little bit
1TB HDD, it cost £5 more, and you get 250 GB plus
Bigger PSU: 8 core and Hd7770 could draw quite a bit of power, 500W would be a safe amount, go with the XFX
Cheaper PCIe card: I would use something like TP-link, you could save the HDD here
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December 15, 2013 3:36:01 AM

Nefos said:
google it ( thats what I could do either, and look around the forum here)
6350 is the "best" 6 core CPU that AMD can offer, with higher clock rates
Yes, you would be, http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2kbdo , although I would change this build a little bit
1TB HDD, it cost £5 more, and you get 250 GB plus
Bigger PSU: 8 core and Hd7770 could draw quite a bit of power, 500W would be a safe amount, go with the XFX
Cheaper PCIe card: I would use something like TP-link, you could save the HDD here


I'm getting a 1TB hard drive anyways so could i buy a case with a 500w PSU and power everything fine ? and which graphics card ? should i get ?
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December 15, 2013 3:57:04 AM

HD 7770 ( little bit more powerful than 650, not TI!) is a decent gpu, you can play games at decent rates ( I could not try BF3, because I had to reinstall windows and download BF3 but origin sucks...) at decent settings.
I would only advise 7870 and 650TI if you would plan to get a 1080p monitor, but if not, its not necessary
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December 15, 2013 4:01:02 AM

Nefos said:
HD 7770 ( little bit more powerful than 650, not TI!) is a decent gpu, you can play games at decent rates ( I could not try BF3, because I had to reinstall windows and download BF3 but origin sucks...) at decent settings.
I would only advise 7870 and 650TI if you would plan to get a 1080p monitor, but if not, its not necessary


is the performance noticeable also is my motherboard good ? and could you explain how i would connect the USB ports on the front of my case to my motherboard ?
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