gaming laptop vs ps4 shocking results feedback appreciated

xkhalil333x · Dec 14, 2013

Hello everyone,

I thought I would share my experience. I have a gaming laptop (MSI GX60) with the top of the line 7970M video card. I also bought PS4. Today i hooked it up to my 75" Samsung 8000 series (F8000) Led Tv. The graphics and color quality was beyond anything I could have ever imagined. I tried battlefield 4 on both my laptop (ultra settings) and the PS4. The PS4 looked much much nicer (graphics wise) and much much crisper.

Now with that said, theoretically my laptop has a better video card and should look better. Do you recon that the ps4 looked much better all around due to the LED tv? What are your thoughts? I just couldn't fathom how nice and realistic the ps4 looked as it really blew me away. I couldnt play the older generation (ps3 xbox360) consoles for the fact that they looked way worse than computers partly due to the fact there was no anti-aliasing. I look forward to your thoughts and thanks in advance

swifty_morgan · Dec 14, 2013

theoretically laptops have always been horse manure for gaming. the ps4 is a low/medium grade pc........... check on that if you like............ both of which can be obliterated by a medium" gaming pc. should have invested in a desktop pc with proper hardware and a path to upgradeability.

xkhalil333x · Dec 14, 2013

I agree desktops are way more powerful but thats my point. My point being, is how much does the actual screen have in terms of making it look so amazing with amazing clarity. If i buy a gaming desktop and I have a decent monitor vs the highest quality monitor.... how much difference will i notice.

Tom Tancredi · Dec 14, 2013

First a 7970 is not 'top of the line'. I may been 'top of the line' back in 2012 when it was introduced, but it is 2014 and these are moderate level cards for today's games (BF4 especially). Top from AMD is the R9, there is the Titan, and then the newest from Nvidia just released.

That said, one big difference I seen is AMD based GPUs drivers only support 60Hz, and most screens are only 60Hz. If your new TV is 120Hz or 240Hz the PS4 will look much better then the PC only because it is pumping out higher Hz display (just go to CostCo/Best buy and you can see the difference. Fry's Electronics has the best displays showing the differences).

That said the demand for BF4, your laptop (http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60-Hitman-Edition.html) shows to be using a APU. Even with the bypass of the IN CPU GPU (both are inside the CPU not seperate) the APU does not have enough 'horsepower' for games like BF4. I dunno HOW the heck MSI got away with selling them as 'gamer machines' considering BF4 and other demanding games these days.

I can show plenty of charts on 'performance' and APUs are not in the picture at all, and will be the choking point (seriously bad) for any GPU. Thus in your case, YES the PS4 is better then that system and probably outputting better (Hz) in the display.

http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

lmaonade200 · Dec 14, 2013

there's a pretty big difference, I have both a TN and an IPS panel at home and the difference is pretty damned noticeable, color reproduction is just amazing on the IPS panel, they are sharp and crisp and just beautiful overall, while the TN panel gives relatively dull colors.

xkhalil333x · Dec 14, 2013

so do you recon the 7970m is a lower grade graphics card than the ps4 or do you think that the bottleneck in the gx60 laptop helps contribute to it followed by the fact that the tv has a much much better screen

Supernova1138 · Dec 14, 2013

The 7970m is at best maybe about equal to the PS4's GPU. Keep in mind that the 7970m is at best only about as powerful as a desktop 7870, which was an upper mid range graphics card in 2012. Laptop CPUs are also clocked a lot lower than desktop CPUs, and BF4 can be quite CPU heavy in multiplayer games, leading to performance issues.

Also, what resolution were you running BF4 on the laptop? If you had your resolution set below the native resolution of the TV, you will take a big hit in picture quality. Consoles get around this a bit by automatically upscaling their games to 1080p, even if they aren't rendered natively that way, though I think the PS4 can actually render BF4 at 1080p natively. PC games will not use any sort of upscaling if you play them at a resolution lower than native, and will take a bigger hit in picture quality as a result.

xkhalil333x · Dec 14, 2013

Hello Super,

yes i run at its native resolution but the colour quality from one of samsungs best tvs i think played a part in making it look super clear and crisp. as i said earlier, how much difference is a mid range vs a high end monitor in terms of the way it looks. will a top of the line gaming monitor look a lot better than a mid range monitor?

jd_w98 · Dec 14, 2013

1. PS4's were designed to run on TV's not monitors and the devekoper optimized the color output for TV's
2. That GPU inside the PS4 is around as powerful as your laptop.
3. Developers optimize console games for that exact hardware specification and thus it actually performs better than your similar laptop GPU

Tom Tancredi · Dec 15, 2013

xkhalil333x :

As I said, if you go a gaming monitor you would only succeed if you used a NVidia card, as the 'gaming monitors' use 120Hz displays not 60Hz, which is basicly rendering 2x more on the screen visually then a normal monitor. Second it improves 'game place' as those monitors have a 2-3ms response time as compare to 12-15ms on normal monitors. Response time meaning the amount of time the screen takes to respond to the input and display it for you to 'react to' as compared to another monitor. Having that quick response improved my game play and the higher resolution makes it cleaner more 'pretty' imagery, like Crysis I just played NEVER looked this good before. But again only because NVIDIA supports 120Hz displays and lets you output at that level. ATI/AMD does not, and the drivers have never been 'fixed' to make it functional.

xkhalil333x · Dec 15, 2013

Ok if my tv is 240hz can the ps4 use the 240hz or no because its an amd video card?

Tom Tancredi · Dec 15, 2013

PS4 was just released and such information is still 'officially' hard to come by. A previous review http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/ shows that it could go 240Hz but on a 'smaller size output'. Consoles are COMPLETELY different then PCs. PCs are made to be multifunctional, that means the software and hardware are open ended to be used by any way the consumer determines within the specifications of what is being offered. Consoles are LOCKED architechture, use a specially coded Operating System HARDCODED into the chips (there is no 'software' usually 'loaded' like Mac/PC OS) to speed up performance, and keep every console the exact same 'specs' (thus the void warranty if you mess with it policies). They can, with consoles, do as they wish on the design different then the same component for a PC, because it is a LOCKED system. It doesn't use 'drivers' and all the PC stuff, totally different design and use.

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