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December 14, 2013 12:21:50 PM

hey guys. building my third pc, and deciding if i should water cool it or not. It's original plan was to be a budget pc, but we all know how that works out... but I'd still like to keep it cheap!

Intentions: Skyrim on ultra with plenty of mods, maybe some crysis 3, minecraft and server hosting, school research and CAD software, robotics 3-d rendering and parts design, burning a lot of discs, youtube encoding and uploading, and possibly some background bitcoin/litecoin mining :) 

Oh, and I like aestetics, going for a sexy, QUIET, compact build. Meaning mATX only pretty much. So here's what I physically have atm:


- phenom ii 960t unlocked and OC-able to x6 1090t (looking to hit 4.0ghz, maybe more if able to by my motherboard power phase)

- msi twin frozr and sapphire dual x 7950's. Only planning on using one for the build, maybe selling other for the mining craze. P.S. - should i sell both and buy a different gpu? Maybe a lesser one and save $$ for a better SSD?

- Corsair TX650 PSU, not modular

- 4 x 2gb corsair XMS3 1333mhz ram, bought it on sale for $35 and don't yell at me for buying it because the best mATX AM3+ mobo out there only supports 1333 O.C.

- G.Skill 240gb Phoenix sata iii SSD

- 2 x AF120 corsair fans, and 1 x scythe ap-15

- ihas 124-04b and 524-04c

-experience


What I'm planning on getting:


- Bitfenix Prodigy M black case, side window mod if I go water cooling and LEDs

- this gigabyte motherboard, supposedly the best for OC'ing for mATX AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- WD Green 2TB (at least)

- Would love to sell my current ssd and buy a samsung evo, but idk

- Noctua nh-d14 if I go air

- custom loop, or modded h80 or nzxt with clear tubing and colored coolant, maybe UV (with this case I probably need a single radiator 120 or 140mm) if i go water




Now, this motherboard was listed in a nicely laid out community spreadsheet by overclockers.net somewhere stating it was the best mATX overclocking board out there, becasue it has heat-sinked vram and a 4 + 2 digi power phase. Will this board handle say 1.5v for my phenom if thats what it takes to get up to 4.0ghz??



Thanks guys!!!

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December 14, 2013 5:23:56 PM

If the plan is to keep the build cheap, custom water is a good way completely miss the point :lol: 
I wouldnt on this rig, the Prodigy M isnt a good case for watercooling, especially since you already have this much hardware in there. Most I would recommend you go for is a H80i, to take up the one 120mm mount where its possible for a radiator. Having a custom loop with only a 120mm rad wont perform any better than a CLC.
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December 14, 2013 6:19:16 PM

manofchalk said:
If the plan is to keep the build cheap, custom water is a good way completely miss the point :lol: 
I wouldnt on this rig, the Prodigy M isnt a good case for watercooling, especially since you already have this much hardware in there. Most I would recommend you go for is a H80i, to take up the one 120mm mount where its possible for a radiator. Having a custom loop with only a 120mm rad wont perform any better than a CLC.


thank you! Any other opinions for the build? As far as over kill vs not enough for my uses or something?

And the only other benefit I can think of is that the msi twin froz 7950 may be the loudest component in my build, and im going for silence, so thats why i would do a custom loop probably with used parts to get that thing in there and shut it up!

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December 14, 2013 6:23:01 PM

Good luck fitting a 7950 in there, let alone getting it quiet. I highly doubt you can get it silent, but you can turn the fan speeds down fairly low. Water cooling isn't silent either, by the way.
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December 14, 2013 6:33:43 PM

A 7950 and 125W CPU, all cooled by a single 120mm radiator. That is not going to be anywhere near what you could call quiet, nevermind silence if you want any half decent temperatures.
Quite simply that case is not meant to do what your aiming for, its essentially a modded ITX case.

Get the original Prodigy and you could achieve what your after, but the Prodigy M just simply cant.
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December 14, 2013 6:38:13 PM

I just can't see how this is worth the cost as you're not going to get much actual value out of custom cooling on a build like this and would get far more bang for the buck using the money elsewhere in the build. There's really nothing here that screams any sort of significant marginal gain from an aggressive cooling solution.
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December 14, 2013 7:33:04 PM

manofchalk said:
A 7950 and 125W CPU, all cooled by a single 120mm radiator. That is not going to be anywhere near what you could call quiet, nevermind silence if you want any half decent temperatures.
Quite simply that case is not meant to do what your aiming for, its essentially a modded ITX case.

Get the original Prodigy and you could achieve what your after, but the Prodigy M just simply cant.


i would def get the original prodigy if anyone made a damn miniITX am3 board...


thanks for the suggestions guys! Helped a lot. I think i will go for the h80 or noctua depending on which i find on sale and then go from there. oh and the 7950 fits fine, you can even cf two of them if you want to...
thanks!
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December 14, 2013 7:35:43 PM

oh, and this is what i was thinking about when i meant double vs single radiator.... very do-able and ample space my friends.... just a matter of how much performance gain

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