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Non-reference 290x or 780 Ti for Triple monitor gaming?

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December 14, 2013 4:17:08 PM

Hi,

I currently have 3x 1080p monitors on portrait and I am wanting to upgrade my video card.

Would the upcoming 290x with 4gb and improved cooling be better than the 780 Ti?
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December 14, 2013 5:06:54 PM

i would go with the 290X for the extra ram but at 1080p either should be ok.
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December 14, 2013 5:14:51 PM

You could buy the Kingpin edition of the 780ti if you really are worried about the VRAM. At 1080p there is really no reason to worry though. I would definitely say to get the 780ti as the non ref 290x is going to very expensive due to demand for a few months.
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December 14, 2013 6:41:56 PM

MapRef41N93W said:
You could buy the Kingpin edition of the 780ti if you really are worried about the VRAM. At 1080p there is really no reason to worry though. I would definitely say to get the 780ti as the non ref 290x is going to very expensive due to demand for a few months.


A 780Ti KIngpin, or any model for that matter, will cost a HELL of a lot more than any 290x, even at its current price raise. Custom 290x's come out January, I'd wait to see their performance since AMD claims they can match any 780ti with proper cooling. As their stock goes higher, Radeons will drop again. The only reason they rose the price was to literally scare crytpominer's from buying them completely out . . . I'm part of the same crowd, watching and waiting for custom 290's and hoping they drop to $450. custom 290x's should be $50-$150 less that any 780Ti, and that Vram IS great to have in eyefinity, even in only 1080p.
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December 14, 2013 7:16:09 PM

jkteddy77 said:
MapRef41N93W said:
You could buy the Kingpin edition of the 780ti if you really are worried about the VRAM. At 1080p there is really no reason to worry though. I would definitely say to get the 780ti as the non ref 290x is going to very expensive due to demand for a few months.


A 780Ti KIngpin, or any model for that matter, will cost a HELL of a lot more than any 290x, even at its current price raise. Custom 290x's come out January, I'd wait to see their performance since AMD claims they can match any 780ti with proper cooling. As their stock goes higher, Radeons will drop again. The only reason they rose the price was to literally scare crytpominer's from buying them completely out . . . I'm part of the same crowd, watching and waiting for custom 290's and hoping they drop to $450. custom 290x's should be $50-$150 less that any 780Ti, and that Vram IS great to have in eyefinity, even in only 1080p.


The 780ti kingpin is rumoured to be 800$. Custom 290x's are going to cost at least 100$ extra for the first few months which puts them at the same price as a 780ti with the current markup, but the 780ti is a better card.

AMD also claimed the 290x would ridicule the Titan, yet it was only a small improvement over a stock titan.
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December 14, 2013 9:01:15 PM

MapRef41N93W said:
jkteddy77 said:
MapRef41N93W said:
You could buy the Kingpin edition of the 780ti if you really are worried about the VRAM. At 1080p there is really no reason to worry though. I would definitely say to get the 780ti as the non ref 290x is going to very expensive due to demand for a few months.


A 780Ti KIngpin, or any model for that matter, will cost a HELL of a lot more than any 290x, even at its current price raise. Custom 290x's come out January, I'd wait to see their performance since AMD claims they can match any 780ti with proper cooling. As their stock goes higher, Radeons will drop again. The only reason they rose the price was to literally scare crytpominer's from buying them completely out . . . I'm part of the same crowd, watching and waiting for custom 290's and hoping they drop to $450. custom 290x's should be $50-$150 less that any 780Ti, and that Vram IS great to have in eyefinity, even in only 1080p.


The 780ti kingpin is rumoured to be 800$. Custom 290x's are going to cost at least 100$ extra for the first few months which puts them at the same price as a 780ti with the current markup, but the 780ti is a better card.

AMD also claimed the 290x would ridicule the Titan, yet it was only a small improvement over a stock titan.


Even with the markup, the most any 290x will cost is $680, maybe $700. Standard cooled versions without insane stock overclocking would only be $650. AMD has said that they rose the price due to demand. Once the miner's lose their investment, and panic-sell all of their gpu's on ebay, their price will plummet again. In a matter of a month, there could be custom 290x's <$600. I think If you want a GPU really soon and have almost max settings, buy a Kingpin 780ti for $800, but keep in mind that if the R9 series drops down again, 2 custom 290's in crossfire would only be $900, and you'd have 40% more performance than a single 780ti.
Really depends on when you want to buy it, how much you want to spend, and how good you want it to look.
Want something soon, and don't mind dropping $50-$100 more? buy a 780TI. Can't afford a 780TI and can you wait? buy a custom 290x. want ultra settings on all three monitors? xfire some 290's next month.
Last detail: If you get a 780TI, If you play games like BF4 and plan on playing 2014 games on more than high settings, MAKE SURE it has more than 3GB. You won't be able to run games well in a matter of 8 months, (depending on the games you want to play) thanks to Vram overloads. Right now, 780Ti ONLY has 3GB. you can wait for a 6GB model, but who knows how long that will take.

custom 290x might be your best bet for high spec games in 3x1080p, sorry for the long paragraph . . . :3 If you REALLY want that 780ti, you'll have to get a 6gb model. Kepler cards can only be made in 3gb/6gb models due to their architecture, so you'll pay up the ass for it :/ 
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December 14, 2013 9:12:18 PM

The 290x is better at higher resolutions because of higher amount of vram and higher memory throughput due to its larger bus, however this isn't as large of a disparity as it as been historically as NV run their memory clocks higher to compensate a bit, but AMD cards are still ahead in this respect and while you can bridge the gap on NV card by overclocking mem you can never beat AMD since the bus is still bigger.
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December 15, 2013 2:15:52 PM

I'm heavily into flight sims (shameless plug for /r/hoggit) and have been gaming on 3 (and now 4) screens for years. During that time I've used both nVidia (before eyefinity/surround was a thing, softTH days...) and ATI GPUs (enter eyefinity). for the last two years I've been running on two 6970s xFire+Eyefinity and contrary to what a lot of people say, the ATI Drivers have been great and worked really well on a triplehead.

About two weeks ago I decided it was time for an upgrade and sold one of my 6970s and picked up a shiny new overclocked 770 GTX. The card was fast, really fast, but holy cow - nVidia's Surround drivers are terrible. If you've had the luxury to try both Eyefinity and Surround, imho it's no contest. ATI blows nVidia away in terms of best support for settings, switching between extended desktop & span modes, plus the behavior of the desktop window manager in Win while the drivers are running in span mode. Surround was so bad compared to what I'm used to with ATI that I RMA'd the card and am (not-so) patiently waiting for non-reference 290s to come out so I can upgrade without having to deal with the crap Surround entails.

tl;dr: Wait for the ATI card if you're a triple head gamer. It's worth it.
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December 15, 2013 9:27:31 PM

funkybside said:
I'm heavily into flight sims (shameless plug for /r/hoggit) and have been gaming on 3 (and now 4) screens for years. During that time I've used both nVidia (before eyefinity/surround was a thing, softTH days...) and ATI GPUs (enter eyefinity). for the last two years I've been running on two 6970s xFire+Eyefinity and contrary to what a lot of people say, the ATI Drivers have been great and worked really well on a triplehead.

About two weeks ago I decided it was time for an upgrade and sold one of my 6970s and picked up a shiny new overclocked 770 GTX. The card was fast, really fast, but holy cow - nVidia's Surround drivers are terrible. If you've had the luxury to try both Eyefinity and Surround, imho it's no contest. ATI blows nVidia away in terms of best support for settings, switching between extended desktop & span modes, plus the behavior of the desktop window manager in Win while the drivers are running in span mode. Surround was so bad compared to what I'm used to with ATI that I RMA'd the card and am (not-so) patiently waiting for non-reference 290s to come out so I can upgrade without having to deal with the crap Surround entails.

tl;dr: Wait for the ATI card if you're a triple head gamer. It's worth it.


I am also planning on getting non-reference 290(s). It really sucks that they rose an entire $100, especially since Newegg sorta has a monopoly over what the average price is. I expected to pay $450 for a non-reference 290, and now will have to pay at least $550, the price of the 290x at launch, for each, and that's just if they stay in stock. I sure hope these litecoin miners lose their hopes and dreams really soon and sell all of their GPU's for scrap on ebay so the R9 series market will plummet . . . I even bought a 850w psu just in preparation for their release . . . I need them since I plan on High graphics in 1440p (1 will do me for now, a second later next year)

I know that the price seems too high, but really, Radeon will do you best, and even at their current price, they're a better deal than 780Ti
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