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December 15, 2013 6:21:06 AM

hey guys i am going to build a new gaming pc. i have a gtx 770 and i am about to get the rest of the components in the next week. I want to buy a futureproof cpu so I need an 8 core or 8 threaded cpu. I just cant decide. the 2 options are: amd fx 8320, asus m5a97 evo r2.0, cooler master seidon 240m, ocz zt 650w psu. and the other option is: i7 3770k, asus p8z77-v lx and the ocz zt 650w psu. both of these options are 500 euros. I didnt chose haswell cause is more expensive and if i buy the i7 3770k build, i will get the cooler master seidon 240m later when i get more money. What do you suggest me guys? please help me.. thanks in advance

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December 15, 2013 6:31:31 AM

marios_kalia said:
hey guys i am going to build a new gaming pc. i have a gtx 770 and i am about to get the rest of the components in the next week. I want to buy a futureproof cpu so I need an 8 core or 8 threaded cpu. I just cant decide. the 2 options are: amd fx 8320, asus m5a97 evo r2.0, cooler master seidon 240m, ocz zt 650w psu. and the other option is: i7 3770k, asus p8z77-v lx and the ocz zt 650w psu. both of these options are 500 euros. I didnt chose haswell cause is more expensive and if i buy the i7 3770k build, i will get the cooler master seidon 240m later when i get more money. What do you suggest me guys? please help me.. thanks in advance


What are the uses of the build? Only gaming or are you going to render/edit?
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December 15, 2013 6:36:18 AM

I will use it for gaming and internet.. but mostly gaming
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December 15, 2013 6:50:27 AM

marios_kalia said:
I will use it for gaming and internet.. but mostly gaming


Then trust me, an i5 4670k or i5 3570k will be more than enough for gaming.
Use the saved money to upgrade anything else!
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December 15, 2013 6:54:50 AM

Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it
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December 15, 2013 6:57:59 AM

marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


We got to wait for Mantle to know for sure
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December 15, 2013 7:01:59 AM

redeemer said:
marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


We got to wait for Mantle to know for sure


I thought that mantle will only be used on amd graphics cards. Will I be able to use mantle if I have an AMD cpu and an NVidia gpu??
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December 15, 2013 7:07:58 AM

marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it



Well current graphic API's cannot utilize the CPU efficiently, they are limited in how many cores and threads can be used. Mantle is not limited to AMD GPU's, however it remains to be seen if Intel CPU's can take advantage!
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December 15, 2013 7:09:32 AM

marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


The i7 also has 4 cores. The Hyperthreading technology is only useful in some situations, like Adobe CS, and other editing/rendering stuff. For gaming, it is practically useless, but there's is some difference, of course. Get the i5 and buy some better components.
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December 15, 2013 7:12:35 AM

redeemer said:
marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it



Well current graphic API's cannot utilize the CPU efficiently, they are limited in how many cores and threads can be used. Mantle is not limited to AMD GPU's, however it remains to be seen if Intel CPU's can take advantage!


Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


The i7 also has 4 cores. The Hyperthreading technology is only useful in some situations, like Adobe CS, and other editing/rendering stuff. For gaming, it is practically useless. Get the i5 and buy some better components.


which one would you recommend between 3570k and 4670k. If i go for haswell it will be more expensive
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December 15, 2013 7:14:50 AM

marios_kalia said:
redeemer said:
marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


We got to wait for Mantle to know for sure


I thought that mantle will only be used on amd graphics cards. Will I be able to use mantle if I have an AMD cpu and an NVidia gpu??


Mantle is billed as an API for GCN which are graphic card cores not CPU cores and as no one has seen it working yet it's all speculation but considering the problems BF4 has and AMD not able to get driver fixes out before Jan 2014 I wouldn't hope for too much if I were you.
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December 15, 2013 7:21:45 AM

Mousemonkey said:
marios_kalia said:
redeemer said:
marios_kalia said:
Thanks for the advice but wont the i5 fall behind the 8 core cpus in future gaming? i dont want to buy it and then regret it


We got to wait for Mantle to know for sure


I thought that mantle will only be used on amd graphics cards. Will I be able to use mantle if I have an AMD cpu and an NVidia gpu??


Mantle is billed as an API for GCN which are graphic card cores not CPU cores and as no one has seen it working yet it's all speculation but considering the problems BF4 has and AMD not able to get driver fixes out before Jan 2014 I wouldn't hope for too much if I were you.


i dont really care about mantle. i dont think it will make so much difference :p 
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December 15, 2013 7:28:03 AM

Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?
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December 15, 2013 7:31:56 AM

marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?
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December 15, 2013 7:34:06 AM

marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


I would but then I gave up on AMD CPU's after the 939 U-turn and backstab! :whistle:  :lol: 
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December 15, 2013 7:36:50 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5
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December 15, 2013 7:43:04 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.
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December 15, 2013 7:50:40 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??
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December 15, 2013 8:02:07 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.
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December 15, 2013 8:13:13 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.
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December 15, 2013 8:15:45 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?
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December 15, 2013 8:17:55 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive
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December 15, 2013 8:21:09 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 
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December 15, 2013 8:21:25 AM

Actually is not that expensive.. what is the difference between h100 and h100i besides the software integration??
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December 15, 2013 8:24:34 AM


Even if you have the best cooler possible, you may not be able to get 4.5 GHz due to manufacturing defects when you're making things as small as CPUs. Overclocking is more about how much voltage your CPU can withstand, and not all CPUs are made equally. Of course, if your CPU is stable at 4.5 GHz but your cooler is limiting you (85C+ at load) then you would lower your clock.


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December 15, 2013 8:26:55 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 


Yeah I just found out :p  is the h100i better than the h100??
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December 15, 2013 8:28:04 AM

raikoo said:

Even if you have the best cooler possible, you may not be able to get 4.5 GHz due to manufacturing defects when you're making things as small as CPUs. Overclocking is more about how much voltage your CPU can withstand, and not all CPUs are made equally. Of course, if your CPU is stable at 4.5 GHz but your cooler is limiting you (85C+ at load) then you would lower your clock.




Yeah I know.. I need some luck on haswell overclocking :p 
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December 15, 2013 8:30:44 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 


Yeah I just found out :p  is the h100i better than the h100??


It's an updated version of it. Personally I like it very much :) 
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December 15, 2013 8:35:08 AM

Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 


Yeah I just found out :p  is the h100i better than the h100??


It's an updated version of it. Personally I like it very much :) 


Do you think I should replace the fans with noctua nf-f12 or the stock fans are fine??
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December 15, 2013 8:39:18 AM

marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 


Yeah I just found out :p  is the h100i better than the h100??


It's an updated version of it. Personally I like it very much :) 


Do you think I should replace the fans with noctua nf-f12 or the stock fans are fine??


Leave the stock ones. If you eventually need to replace them in the future, get some Corsair fans, also really good.

P.S.: I also love Avenged Sevenfold ^.^
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December 15, 2013 8:43:57 AM

Francisco Costa said:
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marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Francisco Costa said:
marios_kalia said:
Neverind.. I dont want to buy an i5 because I know I will regret it.. lets just talk about 3770k and the fx 8320. I am planning to overclock both of them as much as I can with the cooler master seidon 240m. So is it really worth it the extra money and get the i7?


If your concern is performance, how will you regret the i5 but now the 8320?


Because I am worried that upcoming games will use more than 4 cores and the 8320 will benefit more and become more powerful than the i5


I wouldn't worry about the cores. An i5 is better than the 8320 and it will continue to be. The important is not the number of cores, but what kind of cores they are. And even if future games started to use 8 cores, the 8320 would be very outdated by that time.


I guess you are right.. what do you think if i go with i5 3570k and asus p8z77-v lx?? if i go with haswell will be more expensive.. the cpu is about the same price but the motherboard with z87 chipset is more expensive than the z77. Also will I be able to overclock it to 4.5GHz with cooler master seidon 240m??


Not really, the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 is just $110 right now. I say go for it, it is a very good board and is Haswell based.


Thanks mate! it is a very nice looking board too! :p  Can you also suggest me a cooler to overclock the i5 to 4.5Ghz please? I can't install a big air cooler because I have a corsair vengeance ram with tall heatsinks. That's why I am thinking about AIO coolers like the cooler master seidon 240m.


Have you taken a look to the Corsair Hydro H100i?


Yeah but is a bit expensive


It is actually cheaper than the Seidon :p 


Yeah I just found out :p  is the h100i better than the h100??


It's an updated version of it. Personally I like it very much :) 


Do you think I should replace the fans with noctua nf-f12 or the stock fans are fine??


Leave the stock ones. If you eventually need to replace them in the future, get some Corsair fans, also really good.

P.S.: I also love Avenged Sevenfold ^.^


Haha thats cool bro! Thanks for all the help mate! you really helped me! :) 
Thanks again and Keep rockin! \m/ :p 
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