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So I haven't had the best experience with Patriot. The first set of (2x4gb Jungle green VIPER3 RAM) was RMA, so I returned it to frys for another set of the exact same kind. This one actually let me install windows without BSOD. Horray! However, after about a month of using it, I get a message from windows that something is failing. Listing RAM, System board, CPU, Power supply. And I had noticed in games, and sometimes when rendering extremely large videos, that it would freeze and windows would stop responding, resulting in a forced cold restart. Upon researching it, the ram I purchased was made for intel, but was "compatible with amd" - Labeled on the box. I have an exact same build with the same parts, and not problems. Other than the cpu being a little better, and a different MOBO. Is there a reason this doesnt work? Like voltages or something?

SPECS:
AMD FX 8120 8 core 3.1ghz (Stock speed)(Probably not the problem)
ASUS m5a97 LE r2.0
PATRIOT Viper3 Jungle green 8gb (2x4gb)
700W Coolermaster PSU (Definitly not the problem)
 
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Give me a minute or two.
I don't see anything out of line in your screen shots, they look like they are running within specification; but that doesn't always mean anything. And, no, there probably is nothing you can do to make the problem go away if it is RAM caused.
Try this: Pull the sticks out and mark them (1 & 2, A &...
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I've had some issues with Patriot ram also: Different then yours but it was the RAM causing the problems.
If you can take it back to Frys I would do so, and exchange it for Corsair or Crucial brand. I am running Corsair Vengenance, DDR3 1600, 16GB, on an ASUS Sabertooth (a step or two up from your board, have your board in my wife's PC with 8GB Corsair), and it works well with my set up. Same CPU - 8120.
 
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I don't believe I have the box anymore, and it is definitely past the 30 days, so I might be stuck. But my question was, is there timings, or voltages that I might change to stabilize it more? Here is a screen of my cpuz memory settings.

http://imgur.com/RedP4VO&qyl5MYt
http://imgur.com/RedP4VO&qyl5MYt#1

I also thought I might as well include the model number, if anybody has the same problem PV38G160C0KGN
 
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Give me a minute or two.
I don't see anything out of line in your screen shots, they look like they are running within specification; but that doesn't always mean anything. And, no, there probably is nothing you can do to make the problem go away if it is RAM caused.
Try this: Pull the sticks out and mark them (1 & 2, A & B, whatever), then put one in DIMM A2 and run the computer. It will run slower, but that also will put more load on the RAM. Use the PC and run it for at least a 2 or three days if it doesn't fail. If it runs for 2or3 days, then shut down and unplug the PC and put the other stick into the same DIMM and do the same thing.
If the PC fails with either stick in that DIMM, then contact Patriot and RMA both sticks; that ram has a life-time warranty and they worked very closely with me when replacing the defective RAM I mentioned.
If there are NO failures, then start over with the ram in DIMM B-2.
Oh, we could be dealing with a motherboard problem; but that mobo is tough and well built. Check the RAM first then you can find out if it might be the mobo.
Also, try putting it in your other machine and see if there are problems: Did that earlier this year with my Corsair RAM when I was having problems, and the good machine wouldn't boot. The minute I informed the service tech, he had me send the memory in for replacement. {That was the shortest and quickest test}.
You might also download and run Memtest86. Run the full test and let it make at least 4 passes (takes several hours). If it shows any errors, RMA the Ram. However, the last go around I had with bad RAM Memtest didn't show JackS&*^.
 
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cool
 
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That/this is not your RAM. Look at the model #. This is xxxxxxxLC9KG.
Yours, according to your post and the screenshot, is XXXXXCOKGN: here's the spec sheet:
http://www.patriotmemory.com/product/specs/PV38G160C0KGN.pdf
1.5volts is the standard voltage for DDR3.
I would bet it is an intermittent fault in the RAM; almost impossible to track down. One other place you can look for information is in the Event Viewer (Control Panel>Administrative tools>event viewer>windows logs). Look in System and Application. See if you can get any info there. Wife's computer was messing up several months ago and using the logs (and the memory tests mentioned) I was able to "pinpoint" (note it was a very broad and dull pinpoint) the problem as memory and eventually as the mother board. Look for the yellow triangle warnings and the red warnings and failures.

WOW, forgot a basic question: Is the inside of your computer clean? If not, start there; blow it out with canned air or compressed air (no more then 40-50psi) and make sure your fans are spinning and any filters cleaned.

Last but not least, exactly what model Coolermaster PSU do you have in there? Check these lists for a good indication of its quality:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html
Here's another good resource:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/
 
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In my first post (when i was explaining my problem) I put the wrong model number. Not sure if that makes a difference, as the only difference between the two is color. Mine is the one that you mentioned in the link to the specifications.

One other question, As far as the cleanliness, it is beloved patriot and span. Not a spec of dust. But is it a problem if my heatsink is practically touching my first ram stick? The heatsink is aftermarket, and It is Really Really big.

I have also used several calculators to measure power consumption and they all say I am 100 watts under the maximum my psu can supply, so maybe it is faulty? After I test the ram, how would I go about testing that?
 
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Sorry, must have missed your reply, so I am really late getting back to you.
Best and easiest way to test if it is the psu that is broken is to borrow another psu with similar power specs, one that you know is working properly (Such as taking one out of my wife's system to test mine were mine having a problem) and installing it into your PC and running the PC to see if it fails.
Re. the heatsink. As long as it is NOT touching the RAM there should be no problem. There probably wouldn't even be a problem if it were making light contact with the ram's heat spreader.
Thanks for choosing my earlier answer as the solution. So I must ask, did you find and solve the problem? Was it RAM again?
 
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