Building a gaming PC (Budget: ~$1500)

Ryan00

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Approximate Purchase Date: Not sure. Was hoping to get it before New Years, but I'm not in a big rush so it could take longer.

Budget Range: ~$1500 (can go a little over, but if I can accomplish my goals with less that would be best)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, home theater, school, streaming, video editing

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't really matter. I've been using PCPartPicker.

Location: Merced or Sacramento, California, USA

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution
: 2x 1920x1080

Additional Comments: The rig doesn't have to be flashy or "blinged-out" so much as it has to be effective and long-lasting. I've been using the same computer for 4 years and would like to use this new computer for just as long if not longer. My main usage for the computer will be to play games at max settings on two monitors at 1920x1080 (something my current rig is incapable of). I also want my new computer to be relevant for years to come.

Why Are You Upgrading: Currently, I am unable to play some newer games (like Bioshock Infinite) at max settings and my computer has a hard time running even older games at low settings on more than one monitor. At first I intended to solve this problem with a simple GPU upgrade, but after some advice on this site and some reading I realized that sooner rather than later I would need a new CPU. This would require a new motherboard and eventually probably some new RAM... The storage on my current rig is also pretty small and I've been wanting to get a SSD for a while. With all that in mind, I decided that getting a new, better computer altogether would likely be more cost effective in the long run.

What I currently have picked out for my build (courtesy of John Bong!)
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($337.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($71.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1573.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-15 21:17 EST-0500)

My main concerns with my build are:
Is everything compatible?
Do I need additional fans/cooling?
Should I get one or two GPUs? (Leaning toward 1 GTX770 rather than 2 less expensive cards)
Is anything I've picked out overkill or, worse, "underkill"?

And finally, if I order these parts should I try and put this computer together myself, or should I find a place that will do it for me for a price? I've never done more than installed RAM or a GPU before, so I'm not particularly confident in my ability to piece everything together.

I greatly appreciate any help offered! This is my first time in a long time trying to build a new PC and I want to make sure I get it right.

Thank you.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($337.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design...

John Bong

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kZ9V/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($337.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($71.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1573.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-15 21:17 EST-0500)

i went with the i7's hyperthreading since video editing is one of the tasks you want this pc to handle. i went with a case that is built for silence and included two Blu-ray burners. The GTX 770 will handle most gaming needs and the mobo will allow for a 2nd GPU should you decide to add one in the future.
 
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i like this...i have a similar build
 

Ryan00

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Hm this looks like a good alternative to what I picked out, although I might forgo the Blu-Ray drives. Anyone have any opinions on this new build courtesy of John? I haven't done enough research to know much about the differences between his choices an mine, particularly when it comes to the CPU and mobo. I might just end up stealing this though.

Thanks for the input!

Edit: I was slow on the posting, people have already backed up his build. I think I will make the changes he has suggested. I'll edit the original post. Any more input is still welcome. Still wondering if I should try to put this together myself. Thanks again!
 
I changed a few things in John's build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($133.61 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1557.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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-Newer Socket LGA 1150. Haswell is about the same price as Ivy Bridge, so you might as well go for the newer one.
-Cheaper RAM, same performance. Only 2x8gb so you'll have 2 ram slots empty in case you want to add more.
-The WD RE3 is an older drive. Seagate Barracuda is more modern, has double the cache, and is larger for a bit more.
-For an extra $20, you get a faster and more reliable SSD. The Samsung 840 EVO is one of the best SSD on the market right now.
-Better cooling on the GTX 770. This Gigabyte one has an aftermarket cooler so it runs quieter and cooler. It's also cheaper.
-Bigger psu for future SLI.
-Do you really need a Blu-Ray drive?
 

Ryan00

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I took some of this advice. I'm going to go with the HDD and SSD suggested here and the RAM (mainly because the other RAM isn't currently offered, I might change back if it's there when I'm ready to order). I will also go with the Gigabyte GPU because I looked into their cooling and liked it a bit more. I'm sticking with the MB and CPU because, from what I understand, the newer stuff is somewhat less reliable. I don't need the most up-to-date bells and whistles if it trades in on reliability and there doesn't seem to be much of a performance difference anyway, but it was a good suggestion and worth looking in to. Sticking with the smaller PSU, I'll upgrade if and when I go SLI rather than before.

Anyway, thanks for the reply and input, rounded off my list. Sorry it took me so long to reply, holidays and whatnot... Thank you to everyone for all the help!

 
Haswell is not less reliable. It is true that Haswell offers very little extra performance over Ivy Bridge, but they are very similar in price and by going with Haswell, you won't have a dead socket so you have more options for upgrades in the future.
 

Ryan00

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From some people I trust I was lead to believe that Haswell degrades more quickly over time than Ivy Bridge, especially if you're over clocking (though granted I probably won't be). That's what I meant by less reliability. Although it may be worth it to have the newer model if only to allow for an easier upgrade to the next generation down the line as I won't have a "dead socket" as you say. I'll have to give it some thought and do more research probably. Thanks again for the input!

 
What do you mean by "degrades more quickly"?
Yeah it's true that Haswell runs hotter than Ivy Bridge, so it can't overclock as well. Overclocked Ivy Bridge performs the same as overclocked Haswell because the extra mhz that the IB can get from overclocking negates the performance difference between IB and Haswell at stock.
However, if you say you're not overclocking, then you can save a lot of money on the motherboard, processor, and cpu cooler.
 

Ryan00

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From some tests my friends did (perhaps unreliable though not generally in my experience), the Haswell wears faster than IB when overclocked above a slight "nudge." If I do overclock it won't be right away as my new build shouldn't need it; in the future that may change. I'm buying a system I intend to keep as-is or only minimally upgraded for around 4 years (at the least). I don't think I want to rule out overclocking in the future to save a little money now.

After more reading I am going to go with the Haswell MB and CPU mainly because, as you said, the prices are really no different and it's a performance boost (if a minor one). Also, the newer MBs offer quite a bit more in terms of ports and upgradeability. So, basically, I ended up going with all of your suggestions. I even went with a better PSU since the MB has a combo deal with it that makes the prices essentially no different. The advice was much appreciated!