Need a CS6 build judged. I know nothing about CS6 builds.

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1Rab

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My dad uses Adobe but I know nothing about its requirements. He has been stuck with the same cheap computer for 10 years. I know how to build a Gaming PC but I need help for this CS6 build.

Below is a list of what I have so far. I copied this from a email I sent to him to give him an idea. Ignore the "[info]"s because those were hyperlinks.

My requirement is that I don't want it to get any more expensive than what you see, the man is retired and has a nagging accountant for a wife :p But if you see anything that could be improved or that I have wrong for a CS6 build then please let me know and give me your suggestion.

The dark bullets are the options and the *'s are for what I am basing the price off of.

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CPU:
• Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
o *Cheapest I found: $222.00 via Amazon

CPU Cooler:
• CORSAIR Hydro Series H50 Quiet Edition Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm ($59.99 via Newegg) [Info]
• *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg) [Info]

Motherboard:
• * ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($129.99 via Newegg) [Info]
• ASRock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard [Info]
• This one is less straight forward. Would need to research. Looks to be less economical.

Memory:
• G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM [Info]
o *Cheapest found on Amazon @ $139.99
• Cheaper options are available.

Solid State Storage:
• SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) [Info]
o Cheapest found on Amazon @ $132.99
• SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) [Info]
o *Cheapest found on Newegg and Amazon @ $89.99

HDD Storage:
• *Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
• WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ($156.95 via Newegg) [Info]
• Cheaper options are available all the time, keep an eye out.

Video Card:
• *SAPPHIRE 100355OCL Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version ($174.99 via Newegg) [Info]

Case:
• *Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
• Or any other case of the planet.

Power Supply:
• *CORSAIR CXM series CX500M 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($70 @ Newegg) [Info]
• CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply & New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready ($90 via Newegg) [Info]
• Cheaper options available. Unsure of your power need; will need to look at that in further detail.

Optical Drive:
• *LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM ($14.99 @ Newegg) [Info]

Operating System:
• *Microsoft Windows 8.1 DVD (OEM) (64-bit) ($99 @ Amazon) [Info]

Cost = $1,115.99. This can be brought down with research.

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Here is my update:

This is a copy from an email. Don't have time right now to format.

The bullet-points are your options. They should all work with any combination. Price compare, search for coupons, wait for sales, and put money aside for this. The total is around $1,000.

Look for bundles. You can find a lot of parts bundled together at a big discount. Example bundle: one. Bundles can be found by simply searched for i7-4770K bundle but they may not fit your needs.

Suggested stores: Amazon, TigerDirect, NCIX USA, and Newegg.

*= economic choice
Green only goes with Green.

HAL CS6 Intel:

CPU:
• Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
o Cheapest I found: $222.00 via Amazon
• *Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz 6MB Cache Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80646I54670 [Info]
o Cheapest found on Amazon for $214.99

CPU Cooler:
• *Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg) [Info]

Motherboard:
• *ASUS H87M-E LGA 1150 Intel H87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard ($109.99 via Newegg) [Info]
• ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($129.99 via Newegg) [Info]

Memory:
• *G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM ($57.99 Newegg) [Info]

Solid State Storage:
• *SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($89.99 Newegg) [Info]

HDD Storage:
• *Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg) [Info]

Video Card:
• ASUS GTX650TI-O-1GD5 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card ($134.99 via Newegg) [Info]
o *Cheapest found on SuperBiiz for $118.99

Case:
• Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
o *Cheapest found: NCIX for $62.99.

Power Supply:
• *CORSAIR CX series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg) [Info]
• CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($79.99 via Newegg) [Info]

Optical Drive:
• *LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM ($14.99 @ Newegg) [Info]

Operating System:
• *Microsoft Windows 8.1 DVD (OEM) (64-bit) ($99 @ Amazon) [Info]

Cost :
*=$943.90
With SLI support and CPU Over Clock = $1,000.91

I would suggest $1,000.91

Other considerations: Is your monitor good enough? This build can support up to 4k. We can find you a good one for under $200 in the future. Do you want to save up even more and try for an i7 4th-gen build?

Don’t forget about HAL CS6 AMD:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg) AMD FD8320FRHKBOX FX-8320 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition ($139.99 via Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.83 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $523.75

This does not include SDD, CPU Cooling, or Windows 8.1.
Around $700 with those. The listed prices are outdated. Could be a little more or less.

 
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The corsair watercooler doesnt work as well as an air cooler and it is noisier too

Check your RAM is rated for 1.5 volts or less . Lower timings are more important that frequency . 7-7-7-21 at 1333 Mhz will probably out perform faster RAM with slacker timings

Unless you plan to overclock you can use a cheaper motherboard with an H87 chipset . That would mean you could get a non "k "processor as well


The corsair case has a vented top panel . That means its noisier than an office style case. Is noise an issue ? I find it distracting while I work but you might have different priorities .

The WD BLACK is not noticeably faster than a blue , slower than some of the Hitachi's and the one I have here makes a clicking sound when its...
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^ he is right about nvidia card. adobe suit favors CUDA
for non-heavy gaming pc, GTX 650-Ti boost should be very sufficient for accelerate adobe software. it is on sale
it is revision of your build
feel free to play around with this list

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($114.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $879.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-17 01:01 EST-0500)
 
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The corsair watercooler doesnt work as well as an air cooler and it is noisier too

Check your RAM is rated for 1.5 volts or less . Lower timings are more important that frequency . 7-7-7-21 at 1333 Mhz will probably out perform faster RAM with slacker timings

Unless you plan to overclock you can use a cheaper motherboard with an H87 chipset . That would mean you could get a non "k "processor as well


The corsair case has a vented top panel . That means its noisier than an office style case. Is noise an issue ? I find it distracting while I work but you might have different priorities .

The WD BLACK is not noticeably faster than a blue , slower than some of the Hitachi's and the one I have here makes a clicking sound when its seeking . By contrast a blue is quite hard to hear from even a meter away

The 500 watt psu is fine
 
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1Rab

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Thanks for the suggestions so far. I am biased towards nvidia anyways so I'll definitely switch this build to nvidia. But this means that my crossfire ready power supply and motherboard are void and I should look for a SLI ones. And I will look into the RAM voltage.
 
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CS6 supports Open CL . An nVidia card with cuda offers no advantage , and a the hassle of proprietary drivers
 
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1Rab,

Yes, content creation systems are different from content consumption systems, although gaming systems can do some creation tasks well, above a certain level there can be problems.

It is also well to consider the system proportionally to the software. Adobe CS6 is a sophisticated, large, and expensive set of applications. If the budget is $1,000, instead of a compromised system built to a budget, consider finding a good used Dell Precision T7500 with one or two 4 or 6 core Xeon(s) at 3GHz or over, 16GB or more ECC RAM (DDR3 1333), and if necessary buy one with a low end graphics card and replace it with a good "new other" Quadro 4000 or similar. An example of the kind of thing I mean (completed listing) >

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T7500-PC-3-47GHz...

> sold for $622, a 4 core, hyperthreading Xeon at 3.47GHz with the ability to add another (requires a CPU / RAM / Fan Riser), 12Gb RAM, and a Quadro FX4800, which was optimized for Adobe CS4. There was even a special version of the FX4800 called the "CX" specifically for CS4. the FX4800 is the card I chose for my Precision T5400 because of it's CS affiliation.

The T7500 is built like a tank and made to run all the time. I have a T5400 that cost $5,000 new, but bought for $500 when two years old, $500 added (2nd CPU, +12GB RAM, Quadro FX 4800, WD RE4 500GB) and was used an average of 1 hours per day for 4 years with perfect reliability. Plus, with a used system, it saves the research, shopping, ordering, assembly, configuration, and testing fuss.

A couple of comments if you build>

1. CPU > An i5- "K" is not in my view an appropriate CPU for CS as it is not hyperthreading and in CS, as well as CAD, the overclocking feature of the "K" version is not desirable. Consider a Xeon E3, or an i7. The best CPU for this kind of use is an LGA 2011 six core - double the memory bandwidth and can be 4, 6, 8, or 10 core.

2. GPU > Adobe CS has some applications such as Premiere that are more OpenGL oriented but definitely benefits from CUDA acceleration. Up to a certain level of use a GTX is all right, but if there are a lot of layers, particle, reflections, and shadows, heavy processing, video editing, a Quadro is really almost a necessity. I tried a GTX 285 but in Adobe CS4, Solidworks, and Sketchup it had serious artifacting and viewport problems. I did have reasonable luck with a Firepro V4900, but it ran out of steam with medium and large files.

3. HD> I recommend only drives with 64MB cache (or there are the Seagate Constellations with 128MB) and because of the extreme time certain processes take and general workstation use, an enterprise level- usually denoted by the 5 year guarantee. I'll consider reliability as equal to performance. A non-enterprise drive I do like is the new WD Blue 1TB with the 1TB platter- very fast, but buy two and put them in RAID 1.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

1. HP z420 (2013) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2Gb)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi // Windows 7 Professional 64 >

2. Dell Precision T5400 (2009) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card > Linksys 600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > HP 2711x 27" 1920 x 1080

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