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i removed my GTX660TI, now i cant play any game! i5-4570k

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December 17, 2013 10:28:28 AM

my GPU had a failure so while i return the GPU i want to use the PC but when i start a game lets say COD: black ops it pops up a message saying <directx se ha encontrado con un error irreversible> yeah its on spanish sorry for that but it basically says that directX had an error, doesnt say any more. already updated steam and directX but message still shows up

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December 17, 2013 10:32:19 AM

EDIT: I've been corrected below.
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December 17, 2013 10:34:20 AM

the integrated Intel GPUs should be directX compliant. have you installed the proper drivers for the intel GPU?
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December 17, 2013 10:35:22 AM

K models have integrated GPU's...it's probably the drivers from the Ti. Try deleting them.
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December 17, 2013 10:36:19 AM

JOOK-D said:
Well you no longer have a directx compliant graphics card, so any game that uses directx you won't be able to play. Since I believe the k versions of the intel CPU's don;t have integrated GPUs...


i mean, ppl DO play black ops on intel HD4600 graphics and i should be able to do that too, anything i can do there">>
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December 17, 2013 10:36:45 AM

Tiger98 said:
JOOK-D said:
Well you no longer have a directx compliant graphics card, so any game that uses directx you won't be able to play. Since I believe the k versions of the intel CPU's don;t have integrated GPUs...


i mean, ppl DO play black ops on intel HD4600 graphics and i should be able to do that too, anything i can do there">>


I've been corrected.
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December 17, 2013 10:42:44 AM

JOOK-D said:
EDIT: I've been corrected below.


JOOK-D said:
Tiger98 said:
JOOK-D said:
Well you no longer have a directx compliant graphics card, so any game that uses directx you won't be able to play. Since I believe the k versions of the intel CPU's don;t have integrated GPUs...


i mean, ppl DO play black ops on intel HD4600 graphics and i should be able to do that too, anything i can do there">>


I've been corrected.


ok already uninstalled all of nvidias drivers, restarted PC, same error...
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December 17, 2013 10:46:44 AM

Now see if their are any driver updates for your CPU...Windows update might have it...but if not check your hardware manager and update from there.
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December 17, 2013 10:51:44 AM

Master-flaw said:
Now see if their are any driver updates for your CPU...Windows update might have it...but if not check your hardware manager and update from there.


where is that_ sorry im n00bie with PCs :3

UPDATE: nvm i found it, its already updated
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December 17, 2013 10:52:39 AM

vmem said:
the integrated Intel GPUs should be directX compliant. have you installed the proper drivers for the intel GPU?


Master-flaw said:
K models have integrated GPU's...it's probably the drivers from the Ti. Try deleting them.


where do i look for these drivers??
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December 17, 2013 11:02:08 AM

oh ok now i tried launching another game which is Xcom: enemy unknown and now a message shows up saying "your video card does not support alpha blending with floating point render targets (D3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F), which is required to run this game. Exiting..." ugh... now what? how do people even play games with integrated graphics? why so many problems showing up? is there anything i missed which i didnt install?
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December 17, 2013 11:14:45 AM

Tiger98 said:
vmem said:
the integrated Intel GPUs should be directX compliant. have you installed the proper drivers for the intel GPU?


Master-flaw said:
K models have integrated GPU's...it's probably the drivers from the Ti. Try deleting them.


where do i look for these drivers??


...Did the thought ever occur to you to...You know, search for 'Intel Drivers' on Google or something?

I mean, dude, you have the complete and awe-inspiring power of the internet at you're fingertips...Do some digging. =l

We all start out as noobs, but...This is basic stuff, man.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx

EDIT: Ah, very well, then.
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December 17, 2013 11:18:20 AM

Tiger98 said:
my GPU had a failure so while i return the GPU i want to use the PC but when i start a game lets say COD: black ops it pops up a message saying <directx se ha encontrado con un error irreversible> yeah its on spanish sorry for that but it basically says that directX had an error, doesnt say any more. already updated steam and directX but message still shows up


Do you have an old graphics card laying around? TBH how long will it take until the 660 ti comes back? just wait a bit
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December 17, 2013 11:18:29 AM

Savagearms said:
Tiger98 said:
vmem said:
the integrated Intel GPUs should be directX compliant. have you installed the proper drivers for the intel GPU?


Master-flaw said:
K models have integrated GPU's...it's probably the drivers from the Ti. Try deleting them.


where do i look for these drivers??


...Did the thought ever occur to you to...You know, search for 'Intel Drivers' on Google or something?

I mean, dude, you have the complete and awe-inspiring power of the internet at you're fingertips...Do some digging. =l

We all start out as noobs, but...This is basic stuff, man.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx


i already updated that answer, drivers are up to date
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December 17, 2013 11:20:45 AM

maza90210 said:
Tiger98 said:
my GPU had a failure so while i return the GPU i want to use the PC but when i start a game lets say COD: black ops it pops up a message saying <directx se ha encontrado con un error irreversible> yeah its on spanish sorry for that but it basically says that directX had an error, doesnt say any more. already updated steam and directX but message still shows up


Do you have an old graphics card laying around? TBH how long will it take until the 660 ti comes back? just wait a bit


cant i use the HD4600? i want to be able to rely on this one too even though i have the other GPU (not at the moment of course) and no, no old GPUs here ive only owned this gtx660ti and a HD6470m which is in my laptop which i wont tear appart just to get the GPU which i dont even think i can get into the PC...
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December 17, 2013 12:04:36 PM

You can't mix laptop parts with desktop parts, they don't work the same way, different connections and so on. Simple answer NO! normally because IG (Integrated graphics) are just a cheap video chipset so someone can use the computer 'withotu buying a expensive gamer's card'. It is for BASIC use of the computer (youtube, websurfing, email, make documents, etc. - the other 90% use for PCs).

That said, I gave you a link in the other thread about your laptop, if you went to the same website and looked up this video card, then you would have come across this generalized information
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4600.861...

Now that said back to basics.
1) Use SPECCY, what is your full specs.
2) Uninstall all Intel, AMD, NVIDIA drivers. Then install and use Driver Sweeper to REALLY remove them from your computer, reboot. Will take a bit longer to boot (be patient) then when you get to desktop go back to INTEL.COM click the Support, and follow the wizard to scan and update your drivers. Does it work now?
3) If there is a specific error being told, then that is the issue, your IG on your machine doesn't have the hardware to play the game. Go buy a video card. You will also probably need a new PSU as the common video cards need more then the OEM (250-300W) PSU included.
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December 17, 2013 1:36:55 PM

It has to be a driver issue. When my 660 went out, during the RMI wait I just plugged the video cable into the MB output and played. Was surprised at the capability of the integrated graphics too.
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December 17, 2013 1:51:38 PM

Tom Tancredi said:
You can't mix laptop parts with desktop parts, they don't work the same way, different connections and so on. Simple answer NO! normally because IG (Integrated graphics) are just a cheap video chipset so someone can use the computer 'withotu buying a expensive gamer's card'. It is for BASIC use of the computer (youtube, websurfing, email, make documents, etc. - the other 90% use for PCs).

That said, I gave you a link in the other thread about your laptop, if you went to the same website and looked up this video card, then you would have come across this generalized information
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4600.861...

Now that said back to basics.
1) Use SPECCY, what is your full specs.
2) Uninstall all Intel, AMD, NVIDIA drivers. Then install and use Driver Sweeper to REALLY remove them from your computer, reboot. Will take a bit longer to boot (be patient) then when you get to desktop go back to INTEL.COM click the Support, and follow the wizard to scan and update your drivers. Does it work now?
3) If there is a specific error being told, then that is the issue, your IG on your machine doesn't have the hardware to play the game. Go buy a video card. You will also probably need a new PSU as the common video cards need more then the OEM (250-300W) PSU included.


already uninstalled, i installed driver sweeper, checked every box that had AMD, NVIDIA and INTEL in its name, clicked the clean button, rebooted PC... now i checked for updates in the processor and seems like its already updated. if you think my PC cant run it then please explain me this video>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY2E58iN_Dg

heres what speccy told me:

Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 4570 @ 3.20GHz 66 °C
Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. B85M-G (SOCKET 1150) 11 °C
Storage
931GB ATA TOSHIBA DT01ACA1 SCSI Disk Device (SATA) 32 °C
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB SCSI CdRom Device
Audio
High Definition Audio Device

its impossible to tell that it cant run a game, you can pick up a GPU like GeForce 8800 GT, run crysis 3 in ultra settings and it will still run!! even though it would look like a slide show more than a gameplay. GPUs arent a must have in a PC and yes im trying to run a game but cmon its not like im trying to play crysis 3 its COD black ops (+its graphics suck).

http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
when im here and i click on automaticly detect and update a loading bar will appear and it gets stuck at "analyzing computer" like if it was analizing it... for 2 hours...
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December 17, 2013 2:52:05 PM

FIXED"! the intel drivers were all OK, what needed to be re/installed was the ASUS MOBO software/drivers, thanks for everyones help :D 
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December 17, 2013 6:40:01 PM

Tiger, you need when at Intel, to OKAY the script to analyze your computer. Sometimes it requires a install then try again. No you shouldn't just waited 2 hours, it does take that long to 'look' at a computer.

That said COD Black OPS is on the level of Crysis thank you. Your measurements are off, your acting like COD Black Ops is akin to Farmville or something that low end, you really don't have a clue. I think you have a serious responsible choice at this point. 1) Take some basic 101 classes on computers and how programs work if you wish to keep getting this and more indepth or 2) just do what everyone else does and just stick to a freakin' console . I think 2 is more your speed, and will be SO MUCH less a headache for you.
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December 18, 2013 10:31:44 AM

Tom Tancredi said:
Tiger, you need when at Intel, to OKAY the script to analyze your computer. Sometimes it requires a install then try again. No you shouldn't just waited 2 hours, it does take that long to 'look' at a computer.

That said COD Black OPS is on the level of Crysis thank you. Your measurements are off, your acting like COD Black Ops is akin to Farmville or something that low end, you really don't have a clue. I think you have a serious responsible choice at this point. 1) Take some basic 101 classes on computers and how programs work if you wish to keep getting this and more indepth or 2) just do what everyone else does and just stick to a freakin' console . I think 2 is more your speed, and will be SO MUCH less a headache for you.


i like PCs, they are a challenge, you clearly dont get anything im saying, if you just want to kick me from PCs then im sorry but no, now stop repeating the same sh!t over and over im sick of it. i am a begginer in PCs yes but what the hell you were a noobie too and soon baby grows teeth so stop it. im still learning
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December 18, 2013 11:10:18 AM

Tom Tancredi said:
Tiger, you need when at Intel, to OKAY the script to analyze your computer. Sometimes it requires a install then try again. No you shouldn't just waited 2 hours, it does take that long to 'look' at a computer.

That said COD Black OPS is on the level of Crysis thank you. Your measurements are off, your acting like COD Black Ops is akin to Farmville or something that low end, you really don't have a clue. I think you have a serious responsible choice at this point. 1) Take some basic 101 classes on computers and how programs work if you wish to keep getting this and more indepth or 2) just do what everyone else does and just stick to a freakin' console . I think 2 is more your speed, and will be SO MUCH less a headache for you.


Nobody uses COD Black Ops as a benchmark for testing GPUs, so that should be your first sign that it is not that high-end graphics-wise. Crysis 3 is much more advanced. That's just a fact.
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December 18, 2013 11:12:17 AM

Tiger98 said:
Tom Tancredi said:
Tiger, you need when at Intel, to OKAY the script to analyze your computer. Sometimes it requires a install then try again. No you shouldn't just waited 2 hours, it does take that long to 'look' at a computer.

That said COD Black OPS is on the level of Crysis thank you. Your measurements are off, your acting like COD Black Ops is akin to Farmville or something that low end, you really don't have a clue. I think you have a serious responsible choice at this point. 1) Take some basic 101 classes on computers and how programs work if you wish to keep getting this and more indepth or 2) just do what everyone else does and just stick to a freakin' console . I think 2 is more your speed, and will be SO MUCH less a headache for you.


i like PCs, they are a challenge, you clearly dont get anything im saying, if you just want to kick me from PCs then im sorry but no, now stop repeating the same sh!t over and over im sick of it. i am a begginer in PCs yes but what the hell you were a noobie too and soon baby grows teeth so stop it. im still learning


Just start reading alot of discussions here on tom's and you will learn alot. Read forum members' responses to others problems, build questions etc. and you will learn alot.
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December 18, 2013 11:37:23 AM

honestly Tiger, you're right that everyone was a noob at one point, but most of us who made it this far didn't get here by going around and throwing our noobiness (I don't care it's not a word) into other people's laps and asking them to fix it. like others have said, you learn by researching yourself. all the good IT pros made it that way. read threads and articles on Tom's, then search around the web, maxium PC, Anandtech, techpowerup, etc etc, there are many good resources out there, all easily found through the power of google.

after reading, if you really don't understand something, or just want to double check on your understanding, that's what the forums are for: for clearing things up.
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December 18, 2013 11:39:44 AM

@Tom Tancredi

COD Black OPS is NOT on the same level of a rigorous benchmark/diagnostic tool as Crysis, it never was and it never will be. maybe on certain instances it can be just as or more demanding than Crysis, but it is hardly reproducible and thus not reliable.
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December 18, 2013 3:26:17 PM

vmem said:
honestly Tiger, you're right that everyone was a noob at one point, but most of us who made it this far didn't get here by going around and throwing our noobiness (I don't care it's not a word) into other people's laps and asking them to fix it. like others have said, you learn by researching yourself. all the good IT pros made it that way. read threads and articles on Tom's, then search around the web, maxium PC, Anandtech, techpowerup, etc etc, there are many good resources out there, all easily found through the power of google.

after reading, if you really don't understand something, or just want to double check on your understanding, that's what the forums are for: for clearing things up.


said that because in my past thread he insisted in the same thing so i got mad. sorry if i threw my noobiness (lol i like that word) computers are so interesting thats so true and i started getting interested because when i was little i liked to take out parts in every electronic there was and see how it worked. im reading this book called "how electronic things work and what to do when they dont" and i guess i can learn something from there too (not specifically from PC's) but ill do that, ill keep going like a bagabond through this posts. i always look everything up on google as for i believe that everything i wonder for something has already been asked by someone else... if not or if its something different then yes i ask. i seriously didnt expect to be the MOBO software the one to be reinstalled and i feel kinda dumb posting something and solving it myself well i guess i wouldnt got to the conclussion if i didnt go through all the things that ppl suggested me here. thanks for the tip. (BTW holy crap i cant believe a processor does what it does billions of times in a sec
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December 18, 2013 7:11:23 PM

Truth is, your the one that solved the problem...just a little trial and error.
Just, work on your presentation a little...lol.
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December 18, 2013 8:58:16 PM

Tiger98 said:

I said that because in my past thread he insisted in the same thing so i got mad. sorry if i threw my noobiness (lol i like that word) computers are so interesting thats so true and i started getting interested because when i was little i liked to take out parts in every electronic there was and see how it worked. im reading this book called "how electronic things work and what to do when they dont" and i guess i can learn something from there too (not specifically from PC's) but ill do that, ill keep going like a bagabond through this posts. i always look everything up on google as for i believe that everything i wonder for something has already been asked by someone else... if not or if its something different then yes i ask. i seriously didnt expect to be the MOBO software the one to be reinstalled and i feel kinda dumb posting something and solving it myself well i guess i wouldnt got to the conclussion if i didnt go through all the things that ppl suggested me here. thanks for the tip. (BTW holy crap i cant believe a processor does what it does billions of times in a sec


Yeah, electronics as a whole is pretty amazing.

Anyway, I don't mean what I said in any negative way, and we all have a lot to learn here (it's why I read threads like these). and it's not too uncommon to see people solving their own problems. I mean at the end of the day, we're just a bunch of 'experts' throwing ideas at the wall (or you), and see what sticks :-P.

worst I've experienced is solving my own problem while typing out my question XD
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December 19, 2013 3:36:03 AM

vmem said:

....we're just a bunch of 'experts' throwing ideas at the wall (or you), and see what sticks :-P.


Actually, once you learn the 'logic' of our steps you will see this statement is not true what so ever. IT Technical people are logical in a process, the most likely to the least likely 'determining the problem'. Way to often we get such overly generalized statements like "the internet doesn't work" when in actually the user just forgot their email password, two VERY different things. But with the way many user get defensive, that they could not in any way done anything wrong or can't believe it possibly could be XYZ is the problem (sound familiar) it become worse then 'pulling teeth' with a user to get to the heart of the problem, but we rely on honesty and a calm set of answers to help us figure out the user's problems.

I can't count the endless times I been flat looked in the eye lied to by someone about thier computer issue they have no clue about computers, come to me to solve, yet seemingly no idea what I am talking about when I point out a very simple common mistake, and be told absolutely did not happen. Yet the computer can tell me otherwise just by the fact IT CAN'T DECIDE to just 'not work' or do the things WE KNOW NOT to do, it only does what a user says a million to billion times faster, and often a million / billion times worse a mistake then the human can make.

We don't 'poke in the dark' or throw things till something sticks, there is a very real sense of what is the most likely common often problem and solution, but we can't tell you that answer right off because we don't know right off IF that is the actual problem (Back to Internet doesn't work VS Mail password reset).
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December 19, 2013 8:19:40 AM

Master-flaw said:

Just, work on your presentation a little...lol.


^ *facepalm* ik, im bad at that.
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December 19, 2013 8:30:50 AM

Tom Tancredi said:
vmem said:

....we're just a bunch of 'experts' throwing ideas at the wall (or you), and see what sticks :-P.


Actually, once you learn the 'logic' of our steps you will see this statement is not true what so ever. IT Technical people are logical in a process, the most likely to the least likely 'determining the problem'. Way to often we get such overly generalized statements like "the internet doesn't work" when in actually the user just forgot their email password, two VERY different things. But with the way many user get defensive, that they could not in any way done anything wrong or can't believe it possibly could be XYZ is the problem (sound familiar) it become worse then 'pulling teeth' with a user to get to the heart of the problem, but we rely on honesty and a calm set of answers to help us figure out the user's problems.

I can't count the endless times I been flat looked in the eye lied to by someone about thier computer issue they have no clue about computers, come to me to solve, yet seemingly no idea what I am talking about when I point out a very simple common mistake, and be told absolutely did not happen. Yet the computer can tell me otherwise just by the fact IT CAN'T DECIDE to just 'not work' or do the things WE KNOW NOT to do, it only does what a user says a million to billion times faster, and often a million / billion times worse a mistake then the human can make.

We don't 'poke in the dark' or throw things till something sticks, there is a very real sense of what is the most likely common often problem and solution, but we can't tell you that answer right off because we don't know right off IF that is the actual problem (Back to Internet doesn't work VS Mail password reset).


oh I agree that we're logical people and when given 'full disclosure' of information, it is very much a rational and logical troubleshooting process. but as you said it yourself, all too often we're not given the information we need, be it through lack of knowledge of the person asking or blatant lies (no clue why).

also, I described the way trouble shooting tends to work on Tom's. where due to the nature of these forums there is an even more severe lack of information. you see too many threads where someone asks a generic question without giving any additional info about their machine or what software they have, and while people ask for more info, it won't stop other people from just throwing test ideas at it... and slowly the picture does become clearer. of course it works differently in a situation when you can either remote in or have direct access to the PC in question.

again, I meant that comment as a slightly more comical way of describing the situation and I'm not saying there's a lack of knowledge of professionalism on either your or anyone else's part. however, I'm sure if you just look around there are definitely 'experts' throwing ideas into the dark on this site.
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