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markhuges

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Hello, I pretty much know nothing about HARDWARE, and more of a software geek, and I need some help please.

Where can I learn more about RAM: What is Pins, Mhz in RAM? Can I use any?

I have a Desktop Computer, which has 1gb RAM.
Here is the Image.
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Image of the RAM taken out.

My CPU


PLEASE SEE THIS ALBUM For images!!

http://imgur.com/a/brWvE

So after going to CEX, which RAM do I buy? which image one, how do I know which RAM will work on my machince?
What exactly is 240 pin?
How do I know if my computer will take DDR2 OR DDR3? THANKS
From the CEX Image should I buy FOUR 1GB sticks @ £3 Each? thanks!


Thank You very much and please help me, and out me out of my misery :D :)
 
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Google a hardware utility that will show you exactly what RAM you are using and what speed it is running at. If you Google your motherboard specs (the model number is usually stenciled on the motherboard itself or the hardware utility will tell you what you have), the motherboard determines what RAM you can use.

This product is good (and free):
http://www.piriform.com/speccy

Or go to this page and download either Hardware Monitor or PC Wizard:

http://www.cpuid.com/

Any of these free programs will tell you what make and model your motherboard is and what RAM you are using. Then buy more of the same type and speed.
 
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You currently have DDR2 in your PC, so that is most likely to work. DDR3 actually has a different pin configuration (pins are the golden contacts on the RAM) which means it won't fit in a DDR2 slot, but some motherboards have both slots for DDR2 and 3. Can you tell us your motherboard model and CPU so we can confirm if your motherboard and CPU supports DDR3?
 
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Done please see updated album




HOW, exactly can I ask how do you know that Its DDR2? is that good or bad?





How did you know its a DDR2 machine? can you point it out please

Thanks

PS from PCWIZARDS


C Wizard 2013 Version 2.12
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A
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3
Report Date: Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 20:22

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General Information :
Manufacturer : ASUSTeK C
Product : M2N-VM1394

Version : Rev x.xx

<<< Mainboard >>>

> Manufacturer : RM plc

>> General I

SKU : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Family : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Start mode : Power Switch

>> OEM Information
OEM #1 : 001FC6642DB4
OEM #2 : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
OEM #3 : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
OEM #4 : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

>> Chassis Information
Intrusion detected : Unspecified

> Mainboard : Asus M2N-VM1394

>> General Information
Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC. (Asus)
Product : M2N-VM1394
Version : Rev x.xx
Serial Number : WO53081410
Support MP : Yes, 2 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

>> Chassis Information
Manufacturer : RM plc
Type : Desktop
Version : G-SERIES HDA
Serial Number : WO53081410
Asset : WO53081410

>> OEM Support
HPET : Yes
SLIC : Yes
SLP OA : v2.0
nVidia SLI Ready : No
Asus AIBooster : Yes

>> Sensor Information
Hardware Monitoring : ITE IT8712F

>> On-Board Device Information
Device : To Be Filled By O.E.M. (Video)
Embedded Controller : Yes

>> Slots Information


>> System Configuration Options
Option #1 : 0123456789ABCDEF

>> EEPROM Information
Type : EEPROM Specific
Address : 0x57

> Bios : American Megatrends Inc.

>> General Information
Manufacturer : American Megatrends Inc.
Version : 0010
Date : 04/17/2008 (mm/dd/yyyy)
Address : 1024 KB
Copyright : (C)2008 American Megatrends, Inc
Motherboard ID : 64-0010-000001-00101111-041708-MCP68S-M2NRM000
Bios AGESA : ¹B
SMBios Version : Unspecified
DMI Version : 2.4
Bios EFI : No

>> Characteristics
Flashable : Yes
Socketed : Yes

>> Functionality



> Chipset : nVidia nForce 560

>> General Information
NorthBridge (SPP) : nVidia nForce 560
NorthBridge : AMD K8 Bridge
SouthBridge (MCP) : nVidia nForce 630a

>> NorthBridge Information
Architecture : Northbridge
Manufacturer : nVidia (ASUSTeK Computer)
Codename : MCP68
Revision : A2

>> NorthBridge Information
Architecture : Northbridge
Memory Controller : Integrated
Manufacturer : AMD
Revision : 00
Bus Speed : 200.01 MHz
HT Link : 1000.1 MHz
HyperTransport Clock : 1000 MHz
Upstream : 16-bit
Downstream : 16-bit
HTT max. Support : 2000 MHz
RAM max. Support : DDR2 (800 MHz)

>> Memory Information
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-5900
Frequency : 366.7 MHz
FSB/DRAM Ratio : CPU/6
Supported Channels : Dual
ECC Diagnostic : Yes - Disabled
CAS Latency (tCL) : 5 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 5 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 15 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) : 21 clocks
Command Rate : 2 T

>> Physical Capabilities
Multi-Processor : No
128-bit RAM : Yes
ECC : Yes - Enabled
ChipKill ECC : Yes - Disabled
HTC : Yes
UnGanging Support : No
Multi VID Plane : No
DRAM Scrub Rate : Disabled
L3 Cache Scrub Rate : Disabled
L2 Cache Scrub Rate : Disabled
L1 Cache Scrub Rate : Disabled

>> SouthBridge Information
Revision : A2

>> APIC Information
Version : 1.01
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler enabled : No

>> Device Capabilities (PCI)
I/O Access : No
Memory Access : Yes
Bus Master Capable : Yes
Special Cycle Recognition : No
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Cycle Wait : No
System Error Line : No
Fast Back-to-Back : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
User Defined Format : No
PCI 66Mhz Bus Support : Yes
New Capability List : Yes
PCI Support : Hyper-Transport
PCI Support : Hyper-Transport

> Physical Memory : 1024 MB DDR2-SDRAM

>> General Information
DIMM0 (RAS 0, RAS 5) : 512 (Single Bank)
DIMM1 (RAS 0, RAS 5) : 512 (Single Bank)
DIMM2 : Empty
DIMM3 : Empty

>> Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM0)
Manufacturer : Samsung
Part Number : M3 78T6553EZS-CE6
Serial Number : 62567222
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-5300 (333 MHz) - [DDR2-666]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 512 MB (1 ranks, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (ECC) : No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : Week 28 of 2008
Supported Frequencies : 200 MHz, 266 MHz, 333 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 9 clocks @ 200 MHz, 12 clocks @ 266 MHz, 15 clocks @ 333 MHz
Min TRC : 12 clocks @ 200 MHz, 16 clocks @ 266 MHz, 20 clocks @ 333 MHz

>> Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM1)
Manufacturer : Samsung
Part Number : M3 78T6553EZS-CE6
Serial Number : 625671D2
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-5300 (333 MHz) - [DDR2-666]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 512 MB (1 ranks, 4 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : No
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (ECC) : No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : Week 28 of 2008
Supported Frequencies : 200 MHz, 266 MHz, 333 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 3 clocks @ 200 MHz, 4 clocks @ 266 MHz, 5 clocks @ 333 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 9 clocks @ 200 MHz, 12 clocks @ 266 MHz, 15 clocks @ 333 MHz
Min TRC : 12 clocks @ 200 MHz, 16 clocks @ 266 MHz, 20 clocks @ 333 MHz

>> Memory Controller Information
Memory Controller : DIMM, SDRAM
Number of connectors : 4
Max. Module Size : 2048 MB
Max. Memory Size : 8192 MB
Supported Speed : 70ns, 60ns
Supported Voltages : 3.3v
Error Detection Method : 64-bit ECC
Error Correction Capability : None
Current/Supported Interleave : 1-way/1-way

> LPC bus : Yes

>> Bus Information
Type : ISA - LPC
Device : MCP67 ISA Bridge
Revision : A2
Number of ISA Connectors : 0
Frequency : 8 MHz
Multiplier : 1/4x
DMA Speed : 4 MHz
Multiplier : 1/2x

>> Device Capabilities (PCI)
I/O Access : Yes
Memory Access : Yes
Bus Master Capable : Yes
Special Cycle Recognition : Yes
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Cycle Wait : No
System Error Line : No
Fast Back-to-Back : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
User Defined Format : No
PCI 66Mhz Bus Support : Yes
New Capability List : No
PCI Support : Power Management Interface
PCI Support : PCI-Express

> PCI Bus : No

> Bus PCI-Express : Yes

>> PCI-Express Information
Number of connectors : 2

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 0
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x16 (max. x16)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 1
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 2
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : Yes
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 3
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 4
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 5
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

>> Bus PCI-Express
Device : MCP67 PCIe Bridge
Version : 1.0
Port : 6
Physical Slot : #0
Slot Populated : No
Link Width : x1 (max. x1)
Link Speed : 2.5 GB/s

> USB Bus : Yes

>> Device Information
Device : MCP67 USB OHCI Controller
Version : 1.0
Interface : UHCI
Frequency : 0.1875 MB/s

>> Device Information
Device : MCP67 USB EHCI Controller
Version : 2.0
Interface : EHCI
Frequency : 60 MB/s

>> Device Information
Device : MCP67 USB OHCI Controller
Version : 1.0
Interface : UHCI
Frequency : 0.1875 MB/s

>> Device Information
Device : MCP67 USB EHCI Controller
Version : 2.0
Interface : EHCI
Frequency : 60 MB/s

> SMBus/i2c Bus : Yes

>> General Information
Device : nForce PCI System Management
Revision : A2
Frequency : 16 KHz
Address #1 : 0x600
Address #2 : 0x700
SBI Protocol Enabled : No
Asus ACPI Access : No

>> Device Capabilities (PCI)
I/O Access : Yes
Memory Access : No
Bus Master Capable : No
Special Cycle Recognition : No
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Cycle Wait : No
System Error Line : No
Fast Back-to-Back : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
User Defined Format : No
PCI 66Mhz Bus Support : Yes
New Capability List : Yes
PCI Support : Power Management Interface


> Bus FireWire : Yes

>> Bus Information
Device : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller (Legacy)
Version : 1.10
Speed : 400 MHz

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Yes, on the 3rd and 4th CPUID images in your album, under both the "Memory" tab and the "SPD" tab, they both say "DDR2". The speed is given as "PC2-5300", which is what you'd look for if you wanted to add to it or replace it with larger memory modules. The "PC2" part identifies it as DDR2. If it was DDR3 then the designation would begin with "PC3...".
 
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markhuges

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Hello, Thank you all for your help and advice!

2 more quick questions:

1) Could I buy 4 of these and stick them in? will they work?
https://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SMEMM8DH34

2)

Whats the difference in :

1 GB PC5300 / DDR2 667 240 Pin Memory
2 GB PC6400 / DDR2 800 240 Pin Memory

What does the 667 and 800 Represent?

I now sort of understand the 240 pins, and DDR, just only the 667 and 800, is abit confusing

Thanks very much
 
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As long as it is the same type of RAM, such as DDR2, a faster RAM will work even if the motherboard or processor will access it at the slower speed. So lets say your motherboard and processor access memory at 667 MHz. You can put faster RAM in, such as 800 MHz, but it will still be accessed at the slower speed. In this example you would be paying for faster memory but not using it at the faster speed.
 
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