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December 18, 2013 3:58:02 PM

Hello Tom's Hardware community. I'm Engineer Watkins. This is the first time i've ever tried to build a computer. I know all the basic components for a good computer (GPU, CPU, mobo, HDD, PSU...etc) but i dont really know what components match each other the best. For example, what RAM best fits this Motherboard? I don't know much of overclocking either, but I do know you can damage a system if you overclock too high. I really need help because I'm starting a youtube gaming commentary channel, and I want to have high quality gameplay and videos. Below are the parts that I currently know are good:

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GRAPHICS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLING: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As you can see, I dont have a hard drive or SSD. Input or recommendations on these or any other of theses parts would be much appreciated.

(Note: if I can keep the price under $2000, that would be nice)
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December 18, 2013 6:58:31 PM

I don't have time to look for a link but if you want to make Pc building a lot easier go on pcpartpicker.com
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December 18, 2013 7:03:57 PM

Looks pretty good, will probably want a CPU cooler - might look at the Hyper 212 EVO - about $35 at the Egg, also would suggest loosing the mobo, won't touch MSI mobos due to their poor QC, might look at the Asus Z87-A for that pricepoint
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December 18, 2013 7:09:19 PM

Let's be clear about a few things.

You don't know overclocking ,but you're interested in that ? If you are then , only then, go for a "k" version processor , otherwise you really don't need it.

Secondly, are you looking for doing benchmarks? If you aren't you can safely go down to core i5 4670k without any loss of gaming effect and save the 100 dollars and add another 200 more to buy the Gtx 780ti .

Its the fastest card on the market and will run your games insanely, instead of the gtx 780.

Other than that your build looks okay.

I would also consider maybe getting corsair gs800w for 120 dollars and saving 50 dollars here too.

WD or Seagate 1 TB Hdd can be had in around 65 dollars.

for SSD, I can't really advise you, but I use Corsair and SAmsung, and you can't go wrong with either.

Get a 64gb maybe for OS, and 256 gb for your games.
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December 18, 2013 7:20:17 PM

Bassim Ansari said:
Let's be clear about a few things.

You don't know overclocking ,but you're interested in that ? If you are then , only then, go for a "k" version processor , otherwise you really don't need it.

Secondly, are you looking for doing benchmarks? If you aren't you can safely go down to core i5 4670k without any loss of gaming effect and save the 100 dollars and add another 200 more to buy the Gtx 780ti .

Its the fastest card on the market and will run your games insanely, instead of the gtx 780.

Other than that your build looks okay.

I would also consider maybe getting corsair gs800w for 120 dollars and saving 50 dollars here too.

WD or Seagate 1 TB Hdd can be had in around 65 dollars.

for SSD, I can't really advise you, but I use Corsair and SAmsung, and you can't go wrong with either.

Get a 64gb maybe for OS, and 256 gb for your games.


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If thinking about OCing, everybody has to start somewhere - and much easier to start if you have a 'K' model that can OC

While benchmarks aren't mentioned - video work does gain dramatically from the hyper thrreading of the 4770K

Don't need different SSDs for OS and Apps/games generally a 128 or 256GB SSD is plenty for OS and primary apps/games and a decent WD blue or black 1TB or bigger platter drive fo data and additional apps/games
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December 18, 2013 7:27:14 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Bassim Ansari said:
Let's be clear about a few things.

You don't know overclocking ,but you're interested in that ? If you are then , only then, go for a "k" version processor , otherwise you really don't need it.

Secondly, are you looking for doing benchmarks? If you aren't you can safely go down to core i5 4670k without any loss of gaming effect and save the 100 dollars and add another 200 more to buy the Gtx 780ti .

Its the fastest card on the market and will run your games insanely, instead of the gtx 780.

Other than that your build looks okay.

I would also consider maybe getting corsair gs800w for 120 dollars and saving 50 dollars here too.

WD or Seagate 1 TB Hdd can be had in around 65 dollars.

for SSD, I can't really advise you, but I use Corsair and SAmsung, and you can't go wrong with either.

Get a 64gb maybe for OS, and 256 gb for your games.


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If thinking about OCing, everybody has to start somewhere - and much easier to start if you have a 'K' model that can OC

While benchmarks aren't mentioned - video work does gain dramatically from the hyper thrreading of the 4770K

Don't need different SSDs for OS and Apps/games generally a 128 or 256GB SSD is plenty for OS and primary apps/games and a decent WD blue or black 1TB or bigger platter drive fo data and additional apps/games


True, but some people buy "k" versions and don't want to overclock but you're probably right, he has shown intention so k version is ok.

Did he say video editing? If he did, then off course core i7 4770k. I thought he mentioned playing high quality games and HD videos. Watching videos is completely possible on even dual core Pentiums.

As for the SSD part, I always like the fact, that to keep my OS system separate from games installation folder. I feel it doesn't slow down my computer unnecessarily after installing multitude of games in the OS folder.

Anyways he can't go wrong either way on those counts.
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December 18, 2013 7:32:09 PM

" I'm starting a youtube gaming commentary channel" sounds like doing video work
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December 18, 2013 10:04:27 PM

Since you will be oc-ing i recommend you change the mobo,the interference is quite hard to navigate through and its well tbh awful. And don't worry oc-ing isn't that hard with the help of the internet just go and watch youtube videos and browse websites and by time you'll be done you'll know everything about oc-ing but for the first time dont do it too much or set the values too high.
The ram looks good but i think 16 gb is too much for a gaming rig and even for a recording rig its too much if 8 or 12 gb of ram will do just fine
The gpu is good but for about the same price yo can get the 770ti ftw edition which is much better and you dont have to bring the ftw edition its just my personal preference and for the cpu i think you'll need a good cooler that so called "cooler" the comes with it is rubbish my recommendation is a corsair h100i but that is just me.
For the psu the one you choose will do and for the case well thats all your decision
Have fun with your build!
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December 19, 2013 9:56:54 AM

ok I have another question. Some of you are saying that I should have separate SSD for my games and operating system. how would you install them separately? and wouldn't i just install the OS onto the HDD?
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December 19, 2013 2:57:48 PM

I generally install the OS on the SSD and primary apps, increases boot time and apps loading, games are generally pretty good size so can go on an older platter drive - some like them on the SSD, but once you're beyond the initial load of the game a platter can easily keep the feed to the system at a more than decent pace
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December 19, 2013 5:38:34 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I generally install the OS on the SSD and primary apps, increases boot time and apps loading, games are generally pretty good size so can go on an older platter drive - some like them on the SSD, but once you're beyond the initial load of the game a platter can easily keep the feed to the system at a more than decent pace


so when Im installing the OS, I should chose the save location to the SSD?
im getting an intel SSD by the way
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December 20, 2013 11:16:23 AM

EngineerWatkins said:
Tradesman1 said:
I generally install the OS on the SSD and primary apps, increases boot time and apps loading, games are generally pretty good size so can go on an older platter drive - some like them on the SSD, but once you're beyond the initial load of the game a platter can easily keep the feed to the system at a more than decent pace


so when Im installing the OS, I should chose the save location to the SSD?
im getting an intel SSD by the way


Yes you should plus a few other apps that are essential to you,and some games that you play 24/7 or the most

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December 21, 2013 9:17:43 PM

So if I were to install steam into the SSD, then all the games that are installed through steam will be in the SSD? also should I get an OEM operating system? once these questions are answered, I think i'll be good
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December 22, 2013 11:53:51 AM

If going to have Steam and games through it, I'd put them on a Platter Drive, the OEM OS is fine, it'll be your rig
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December 22, 2013 2:19:08 PM

so steam games will load faster on the HDD instead of the SSD?
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December 22, 2013 2:52:13 PM

Not that so much but they take up a lot of room, STEAM also uses a lot of temp files
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December 22, 2013 5:34:06 PM

No worries, let us know how it goes ;) 
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January 4, 2014 10:57:16 PM

I have to say you picked some very good parts. Basically the best PC someone could have.

Here is a slightly modified build. I chose that case because its my personal favorite, but you can easily change that going though the website.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vUb7

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January 5, 2014 7:59:05 AM

The A is a good mobo, haven't seen any problems w/ it, also at same basic pricepoint is the Asus Z-87 Plus
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January 6, 2014 7:15:34 AM

Looking good, let us know how it goes ;) 
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