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December 18, 2013 8:46:23 PM

Hello I just built my new computer and I'm thinking that I might've downgraded. The FPS of my last computer are better than my new.

Old Specs:
FX 8320 4.5 GHZ Oc
16 GB Patriot Viper 1866 MHZ Ram
HD 7970 3 GB

New Specs:
Intel i7 4770k 4.2 GHZ Oc
16 GB Patriot Viper 1866 MHZ Ram
Gtx 770 2 GB

Some of the games I play are Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Battlefield 4, League of Legends, Arma3, Trine 2.

So did I downgrade from my system?

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December 18, 2013 8:56:40 PM

forgottensakes said:
Hello I just built my new computer and I'm thinking that I might've downgraded. The FPS of my last computer are better than my new.

Old Specs:
FX 8320 4.5 GHZ Oc
16 GB Patriot Viper 1866 MHZ Ram
HD 7970 3 GB

New Specs:
Intel i7 4770k 4.2 GHZ Oc
16 GB Patriot Viper 1866 MHZ Ram
Gtx 770 2 GB

Some of the games I play are Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Battlefield 4, League of Legends, Arma3, Trine 2.

So did I downgrade from my system?


You lost VRAM which in Triple A games Crysis 3. Other then that you shouldn't a difference. Why did you "upgrade" in the first place?
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December 18, 2013 9:00:08 PM

You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance
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December 18, 2013 9:04:14 PM

I don't think so - I like the 770. Great vidcard.
There's a lot of FPS to be found in the nVidia Control Panel. I just use the Global Settings for everything (not using individual settings for each game) and my Global Settings are set for High Performance.
Go through your Control Panel and make sure everything is set to either High Performance or Application Controlled.
There are a lot of driver optimizations in there that will offer you more performance, and you will not notice any loss of quality.
Also - you can use nVidia Active VSync now! Woohoo...
If your frames stay above 60 FPS it will enable VSync, but if they fall below it will disable Vsync - all on-the-fly. It's a great thing.
Get real comfy in those Global Settings (no more CCC for you)...
And you will always enjoy the whole no-hassle nVidia experience. They treat you good and WHQL drivers are solid.
Note: Beware the nVidia automatic thing they try to install, which will set you up for 40 FPS (Average) framerates.
This is inadequate for a Vsynced game, as you require an average of 60 FPS+ and minimum FPS of ideally at least 50 or so...
But a big factor is the nVidia Control Panel Global settings.
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December 18, 2013 9:05:59 PM

MDXX said:
You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance

Well... Intel has the performance (if he has already paid the price), right?

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December 18, 2013 9:07:33 PM

its a tiny upgrade
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December 18, 2013 9:10:00 PM

MDXX said:
You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance


Do you think he cares about that? Intel is still better than AMD.... My quad core i5-4570 is better than that AMD.
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December 18, 2013 9:14:58 PM

At 4.5Ghz the FX 8320 in gaming is roughly equal to your new processor at stock. So you upgraded the CPU for sure.

You also slightly upgraded the GPU but not enough to make the upgrade cost effective. As you can see here Tom's lists the 7970 and GTX 770 in the same tier.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Direct comparison here.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/770?vs=829

You did reinstall Windows on the new build and have all the latest drivers correct?
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December 18, 2013 9:17:34 PM

Unknown-bjorn said:
MDXX said:
You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance


Do you think he cares about that? Intel is still better than AMD.... My quad core i5-4570 is better than that AMD.


And i hope your getting uber FPS for the price you paid

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December 18, 2013 9:30:01 PM

I have been saying for a while the FX 8300 parts are underrated gaming chips. Especially if you stream. Website tester,s by their own admission, cherry pick situations which pressure the cpu in ways that are not necessarily necessarily representative of real world gaming.
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December 18, 2013 9:31:46 PM

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I have been saying for a while the FX 8300 parts are underrated gaming chips. Especially if you stream. Website tester,s by their own admission, cherry pick situations which pressure the cpu in ways that are not necessarily necessarily representative of real world gaming.


You sir are a good man and dont buy into the Intel Hype. Kudos
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December 18, 2013 9:37:08 PM

Lets keep the fanboy disinformation to a minimum please. The truth of the matter is most games are GPU bound and as long as you have a modern multicore processor the GPU is the limiting factor. However in processor biased games Intel runs away and hides. Even overclocked to the maximum AMD can't keep up and the sad truth is the chips have to be overclocked to compete with Intel at stock.

AMD themselves have given up trying to compete. There are no CPUs on their future roadmap only APUs where they have a huge advantage.
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December 18, 2013 9:49:06 PM

anort3 said:
Lets keep the fanboy disinformation to a minimum please. The truth of the matter is most games are GPU bound and as long as you have a modern multicore processor the GPU is the limiting factor. However in processor biased games Intel runs away and hides. Even overclocked to the maximum AMD can't keep up and the sad truth is the chips have to be overclocked to compete with Intel at stock.

AMD themselves have given up trying to compete. There are no CPUs on their future roadmap only APUs where they have a huge advantage.


AMD runs away and hides*
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December 18, 2013 9:49:27 PM

anort3 said:
Lets keep the fanboy disinformation to a minimum please. The truth of the matter is most games are GPU bound and as long as you have a modern multicore processor the GPU is the limiting factor. However in processor biased games Intel runs away and hides. Even overclocked to the maximum AMD can't keep up and the sad truth is the chips have to be overclocked to compete with Intel at stock.

AMD themselves have given up trying to compete. There are no CPUs on their future roadmap only APUs where they have a huge advantage.


AMD could kick of next year with a good line of APU. Might get more performance and set a new standard
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December 18, 2013 9:57:33 PM

AMD is focusing on APU's because that's their mainstream product. Mainstream as in 90 percent of the pc market. Like it or not, enthustiasts are a niche market.

I suspect higher end parts will follow once the steamrollers initial bugs are addressed. That's what they should have done with Barcelona and Bulldozer.
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December 18, 2013 10:27:34 PM

MDXX said:
Unknown-bjorn said:
MDXX said:
You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance


Do you think he cares about that? Intel is still better than AMD.... My quad core i5-4570 is better than that AMD.


And i hope your getting uber FPS for the price you paid



A 4570 is only 40 dollars more. Not that more. Thought to be real it won't be that much different. 60 dollars more, and you'll see a difference from the 4670K
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December 19, 2013 9:01:17 PM

Mciahel said:
MDXX said:
Unknown-bjorn said:
MDXX said:
You left AMD for Intel? Thats your problem right there. Price =/= performance


Do you think he cares about that? Intel is still better than AMD.... My quad core i5-4570 is better than that AMD.


And i hope your getting uber FPS for the price you paid



A 4570 is only 40 dollars more. Not that more. Thought to be real it won't be that much different. 60 dollars more, and you'll see a difference from the 4670K


AHHH I meant 4670 damn sorry people! I have a 4670
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