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December 19, 2013 2:55:36 PM

Hello I am looking for the best "Gaming" ram for my i7-4770k and Asus Maximus 6 Hero mobo combo. I want the best i am looking for 16gb ram!

Also looking for the best liquid cooling system for my i7-4770k i want to overclock to 4.2ghz and i want the liquid cooler to be able to keep haswells high temps down. Should i get this one CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler. 240mm or are there better ones? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also looking for a good 2TB high performance HDD i was looking at this drive: WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... is this a good HDD or are there better ones?

Parts i already have
Case: Carbide Series 400rR Mid-Tower Case http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/...

Power Supply: Professional Series HX850 - 80 Plus Silver Crtified modular power supply http://www.corsair.com/professional-series-hx850-80-plu...
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December 19, 2013 2:59:34 PM

There's no need for 16gb of ram for gaming and tests have shown that CAS9 1600mhz "non-gaming" ram offers no noticeable performance gain than CAS9 1600mhz "Gaming" ram
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December 19, 2013 3:00:43 PM

lucasz said:
There's no need for 16gb of ram for gaming and tests have shown that CAS9 1600mhz "non-gaming" ram offers no noticeable performance gain than CAS9 1600mhz "Gaming" ram

I have heard the same thing but i still want 16gb ram and the best ram! :p 

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December 19, 2013 3:10:58 PM

Mushkin is among the best RAM brands...
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December 19, 2013 3:11:32 PM

h100i will be plenty for cooling the i7-4770k past 4.2Ghz, most people reach 4.5Ghz with that cooler, though you can always end up with a not-so-good chip. Noctua NH-D14 air cooler is about $70 and performs better then the h100i in most situations.

Haswell boards support 1866 memory without overclocking, might as well get that. 2133 or higher will also work, just depends on how deep your pockets are.

WD Black drives offer the best warranty available I believe, as well as excellent performance without getting into 10K RPM and faster drives.
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December 19, 2013 3:13:29 PM

Eximo said:
h100i will be plenty for cooling the i7-4770k past 4.2Ghz, most people reach 4.5Ghz with that cooler, though you can always end up with a not-so-good chip. Noctua NH-D14 air cooler is about $70 and performs better then the h100i in most situations.

Haswell boards support 1866 memory without overclocking, might as well get that. 2133 or higher will also work, just depends on how deep your pockets are.

WD Black drives offer the best warranty available I believe, as well as excellent performance without getting into 10K RPM and faster drives.
well i plan on spending 150-200$ on ram and the same on HDD and what ever the best liquid cooling system is don't really care about money on that since haswell has high temps

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December 19, 2013 3:14:18 PM

Haswell in general scales very well to DRAM, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-ha...

and with today's prices being what they are 1866 and even 2133 are often with a few dollars of good 1600 sticks, I've tested a lot of DRAM on my Hero build and other Z87 mobos, and the best I've found to date is the GSkill Trident X's, with Haswell for gaming would look at their 1866/8 or 2133/9 sticks

The WD Black is a good HD, should be happy with it, the Blues are the same drives and often a couple bucks cheaper (beware the Green though, those are 5400 RPM vs the blue/black's 7200 RPM)

On a cooler, if planning 4.2 or even up to 4.4, can do just fine with a Hyper 212 EVO, or (higher priced) a Phantek rather than the $110 + for a H100i
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December 19, 2013 3:17:59 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Haswell in general scales very well to DRAM, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-ha...

and with today's prices being what they are 1866 and even 2133 are often with a few dollars of good 1600 sticks, I've tested a lot of DRAM on my Hero build and other Z87 mobos, and the best I've found to date is the GSkill Trident X's, with Haswell for gaming would look at their 1866/8 or 2133/9 sticks

The WD Black is a good HD, should be happy with it, the Blues are the same drives and often a couple bucks cheaper (beware the Green though, those are 5400 RPM vs the blue/black's 7200 RPM)

On a cooler, if planning 4.2 or even up to 4.4, can do just fine with a Hyper 212 EVO, or (higher priced) a Phantek rather than the $110 + for a H100i
im pretty noob when it comes to building computers and ram i know more about motherboards and cpus and GPUs but do you think i need 16gb or just stay with 8? with the set up i already have

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December 19, 2013 3:20:32 PM

If you use an SSD, having 16GB will help improve the SSD Endurance. Plus seems like new games are starting to utilize more ram if it is available.
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December 19, 2013 3:21:34 PM

rvilkman said:
If you use an SSD, having 16GB will help improve the SSD Endurance. Plus seems like new games are starting to utilize more ram if it is available.
Yes i do use an SSD i have the Samsung 840 EVO 500GB ok ya then i want 16gb

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December 19, 2013 3:24:44 PM

still confused im pretty noob when it comes to ram im looking at the GSkill Trident X's ram don't know what one i should get though
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December 19, 2013 3:29:40 PM

Well there is no point in paying yourself silly for minor performance improvement.
So the Gskill Ripjaws X 2x8GB CAS9 2133Mhz kit I listed above should work well for you.

And if you want to go with the trident X then basically 2 choices are reasonable.
GSkill Trident X 2x8GB Cas10 2400Mhz $174.99
Gskill Trident X 2x8GB Cas9 2133Mhz $169.99

Those seem to be the sweet spots for price and performance.
While you may get a benefit going higher the cost difference is huge.

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December 19, 2013 3:31:49 PM

rvilkman said:
Well there is no point in paying yourself silly for minor performance improvement.
So the Gskill Ripjaws X 2x8GB CAS9 2133Mhz kit I listed above should work well for you.
but Tradesman1 just said that the GSkill Trident X work best with my mobo and cpu?
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December 19, 2013 3:40:15 PM

rvilkman said:
Well there is no point in paying yourself silly for minor performance improvement.
So the Gskill Ripjaws X 2x8GB CAS9 2133Mhz kit I listed above should work well for you.

And if you want to go with the trident X then basically 2 choices are reasonable.
GSkill Trident X 2x8GB Cas10 2400Mhz $174.99
Gskill Trident X 2x8GB Cas9 2133Mhz $169.99

Those seem to be the sweet spots for price and performance.
While you may get a benefit going higher the cost difference is huge.

whats the difference between the Gskill Ripjaws and the Trident X anyways?

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December 19, 2013 4:04:15 PM

nobody wants to help?
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December 19, 2013 4:06:59 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Haswell in general scales very well to DRAM, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-ha...

and with today's prices being what they are 1866 and even 2133 are often with a few dollars of good 1600 sticks, I've tested a lot of DRAM on my Hero build and other Z87 mobos, and the best I've found to date is the GSkill Trident X's, with Haswell for gaming would look at their 1866/8 or 2133/9 sticks

The WD Black is a good HD, should be happy with it, the Blues are the same drives and often a couple bucks cheaper (beware the Green though, those are 5400 RPM vs the blue/black's 7200 RPM)

On a cooler, if planning 4.2 or even up to 4.4, can do just fine with a Hyper 212 EVO, or (higher priced) a Phantek rather than the $110 + for a H100i
these right? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
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December 19, 2013 4:25:00 PM

Konane said:
Tradesman1 said:
Haswell in general scales very well to DRAM, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-ha...

and with today's prices being what they are 1866 and even 2133 are often with a few dollars of good 1600 sticks, I've tested a lot of DRAM on my Hero build and other Z87 mobos, and the best I've found to date is the GSkill Trident X's, with Haswell for gaming would look at their 1866/8 or 2133/9 sticks

The WD Black is a good HD, should be happy with it, the Blues are the same drives and often a couple bucks cheaper (beware the Green though, those are 5400 RPM vs the blue/black's 7200 RPM)

On a cooler, if planning 4.2 or even up to 4.4, can do just fine with a Hyper 212 EVO, or (higher priced) a Phantek rather than the $110 + for a H100i
im pretty noob when it comes to building computers and ram i know more about motherboards and cpus and GPUs but do you think i need 16gb or just stay with 8? with the set up i already have


* is generally fine for strictly gaming, but with a new rig and if you want it last awhile, if in the budget 16GB is agood idea, it will help speed up other things , especially if you multi-task, do any imaging, video, CAD, VMs, et al o or thinking of doing so, plus as new games/apps come out that utilize DRAM more you'll already have 16GB which will hopefully be good for a year or two anyway - remember just a year and ahlf or 2 years ago everybody was saying 4 GB was all you'll ever need and most prebuilts had 2-4 GB of DRAM, today, they say 8GB is all you'll ever need, and prebuilts already have moved to 6-8GB for entry level, and many come w/ 16GB, most of my clients are (and have been), going 16-32GB, even many of the gamers
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December 19, 2013 4:27:43 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Konane said:
Tradesman1 said:
Haswell in general scales very well to DRAM, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-ha...

and with today's prices being what they are 1866 and even 2133 are often with a few dollars of good 1600 sticks, I've tested a lot of DRAM on my Hero build and other Z87 mobos, and the best I've found to date is the GSkill Trident X's, with Haswell for gaming would look at their 1866/8 or 2133/9 sticks

The WD Black is a good HD, should be happy with it, the Blues are the same drives and often a couple bucks cheaper (beware the Green though, those are 5400 RPM vs the blue/black's 7200 RPM)

On a cooler, if planning 4.2 or even up to 4.4, can do just fine with a Hyper 212 EVO, or (higher priced) a Phantek rather than the $110 + for a H100i
im pretty noob when it comes to building computers and ram i know more about motherboards and cpus and GPUs but do you think i need 16gb or just stay with 8? with the set up i already have


* is generally fine for strictly gaming, but with a new rig and if you want it last awhile, if in the budget 16GB is agood idea, it will help speed up other things , especially if you multi-task, do any imaging, video, CAD, VMs, et al o or thinking of doing so, plus as new games/apps come out that utilize DRAM more you'll already have 16GB which will hopefully be good for a year or two anyway - remember just a year and ahlf or 2 years ago everybody was saying 4 GB was all you'll ever need and most prebuilts had 2-4 GB of DRAM, today, they say 8GB is all you'll ever need, and prebuilts already have moved to 6-8GB for entry level, and many come w/ 16GB, most of my clients are (and have been), going 16-32GB, even many of the gamers
Well i forgot to add this i do plan on live streaming my games on twitch.tv so would 16gb be better? i love to multi task so its also why i picked the i7-4770k for streaming aswell. Could you give me a link to the best 16gb ram for my set up please :)  i just want good gaming performance

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December 19, 2013 4:46:45 PM

On a pure performance level they are roughly equal, the 2400 provides wider bandwidth and if in the future you get the urge, can generally be OCed up to 2666 for even more bandwidth, haven't found a set of Tri's yet that couldn't OC at least 1 step safely
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December 19, 2013 4:55:42 PM

Tradesman1 said:
On a pure performance level they are roughly equal, the 2400 provides wider bandwidth and if in the future you get the urge, can generally be OCed up to 2666 for even more bandwidth, haven't found a set of Tri's yet that couldn't OC at least 1 step safely
so i just watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4 for a little bit of learning on rams apparently the performance isn't that great when you go for higher frequencies because it tends to sacrifice on latency the ones with lowest latency seemed to be better on FPS. Still confused on what ram i want to get lol
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December 19, 2013 5:08:42 PM

I still think you should get the mushkin... cas8
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December 19, 2013 5:22:11 PM

what kind of latency and frequency should i be aiming for in a gaming PC for live streaming and graphic intensive video games?
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December 19, 2013 5:22:14 PM

That's in part what I was saying above - on a "pure performance level" they are about equal, between the 2133/9 and 2400/10 (this also goes the same way downward and upward i.e. the full scale of steps starting with

1600/7 1866/8 2133/9 2400/10 2666/11 and 2800/12 if doing the same identical thing - like benchmarks you will see little difference between them doing BMs etc as they are all roughly equal i.e the exact actions are going on, higher freq DRAM starts to shine when multi-tasking and doing memory centric apps - which BMs don't really cover - the guy in the video to a degree summed it up at the end by mentioning that there are times when greater bandwidth does really matter and used a server as an example - a server is no different than a desktop if you multitask, it's doing multiple things at once while when simply gaming or running a BM - it's a single item - then all the DRAM is being used as is a conduit for data
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December 19, 2013 5:26:32 PM

Tradesman1 said:
That's in part what I was saying above - on a "pure performance level" they are about equal, between the 2133/9 and 2400/10 (this also goes the same way downward and upward i.e. the full scale of steps starting with

1600/7 1866/8 2133/9 2400/10 2666/11 and 2800/12 if doing the same identical thing - like benchmarks you will see little difference between them doing BMs etc as they are all roughly equal i.e the exact actions are going on, higher freq DRAM starts to shine when multi-tasking and doing memory centric apps - which BMs don't really cover - the guy in the video to a degree summed it up at the end by mentioning that there are times when greater bandwidth does really matter and used a server as an example - a server is no different than a desktop if you multitask, it's doing multiple things at once while when simply gaming or running a BM - it's a single item - then all the DRAM is being used as is a conduit for data
Ah ok thanks for that in depth explanation! So i think i will go for the G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... Would you recommend this for Live streaming graphic intensive video games on twitch.tv? and will they work perfectly with my i7-4770k and asus maximus 6 hero? Thanks for everyones help! im kinda a huge noob when it comes to ram i can somtimes be a retard too haha :p 

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December 19, 2013 5:36:30 PM

Yep, have run those (the 2400/10 set) in all configs 8, 16, 24 and 32 GB on the Hero (with the 32GB set from my IB) and currently run the 32GB of 2666/11 on my 4770K/Hero). Have pretty much run all the Tri's on my Hero, they've been my favorites for about a year and a half or so now
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December 19, 2013 5:38:53 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Yep, have run those (the 2400/10 set) in all configs 8, 16, 24 and 32 GB on the Hero (with the 32GB set from my IB) and currently run the 32GB of 2666/11 on my 4770K/Hero). Have pretty much run all the Tri's on my Hero, they've been my favorites for about a year and a half or so now
so you do recommend me to buy the "G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX"? just making sure lol

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December 19, 2013 5:55:29 PM

Well, we could start all over...... ;)  Yes, think you'll be very happy with them :) 
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January 14, 2014 10:39:20 AM

So what did you end up with and how did they work?
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February 6, 2014 12:50:23 PM

Gaming wise though frequency has little to no changes in performance I saw the charts like 1-5% difference from 1600 to 2k+ frequency

Mushkin is the best out there. Better play around with what you are comfortable with gskill cards are good though been using them since forever.
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February 7, 2014 2:24:27 PM

Rapsky said:
Gaming wise though frequency has little to no changes in performance I saw the charts like 1-5% difference from 1600 to 2k+ frequency

Mushkin is the best out there. Better play around with what you are comfortable with gskill cards are good though been using them since forever.


I told him to get mushkin redline, but since OP has never heard of mushkin so he said no.
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