Windows 8.1 Using 32GB of RAM

absarc

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I just downloaded that program but I still can't see how its possible for my PC to be using 32GB of RAM. The program shows a lot happening but to me it doesn't seem to add upto that. Should I post a screenshot of the window?
 

neieus

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Well it looks like you have some sort of memory leak but I can't tell from your screen shot. I suggest you start end tasking programs one program at a time while watching the memory and see when it drops down.
 

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I found out that the GPU has over 16GB of shared memory which is making my system overall sluggish in games. Any idea how i can fix this?

EDIT: Games are starting to crash and programs are crashing in my OS cause of the lack of RAM. I really need help with this please. Its making it impossible to even play a game with Chrome open.
 

absarc

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This is beyond a joke now. My PC feels useless. I had to reboot but my RAM is constantly at 32GB meaning everything is crashing and lagging and unusable. I really need a fix for this please.
 

Fred Anderson

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Restart and Boot your PC in Safe Mode.. Does it Shows the same Memory usage and offers sluggish performance ?

Do this and inform the outcome !!

Clean Boot to Windows 8 and disable all unnecessary startup services . .. Open Run, type MsConfig and hit enter to open System Configuration box, On the General tab, uncheck the Load Startup Itmes, and then move to the Services tab, check Hide All Microsfot Services, and then click Disable All.




 

absarc

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Right so I'm back with an update on the situation. At the worst, when I made this thread, my RAM usage was at 100% constantly and my PC crashed. A reboot returned the usage to 3.8GB. I left my computer running last night and this afternoon came to find the usage at around 8GB. I thought I would let it run longer and check back on the issue.

8GB usage at around 4pm. Came home from work at around 1:30am and checked my usage at about 3am. Found the usage at 16.5GB. So basically it isn't an immediate issue. It builds up over hours, days. If I recall, when my RAM reached 100% usage, my PC had been on for I'd say 2 days. Now this is a clean install of Windows 8.1 with only applications I had installed on my previous Windows 8. Only difference is my RAM wasn't 32GB but 4GB. But still then I had no issues with programs hogging ram.

Is there any program you can recommend I run in the background with my day to day usage to record the RAM usage? One that can let me know which program is eating all my RAM?

I've Googled ways to identify a memory leak but I'm not going to lie. It's quiet confusing to me. I will continue to read more into it and see if I can get a grasp on the procedure but I'd love some help.
 

absarc

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So last night, I switched from Google Chrome to Firefox as I thought it was either Chrome or Skype causing the issue as they are the only programs running 24/7. So from 5am till now, 5pm, my RAM went from 3.9GB usage to 4.0GB usage. So it was Chrome cause the obscene usage. Any ideas why? Anyone had this issue?
 

neieus

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What you are experiencing is a memory leak and as for why.... can't answer that one but you could also search online to see if there's any known issues but from my experience with Chrome as my main browser I don't have any problems. Keep in mind also that surfing the web etc. will cause the memory for the browser to increase and decrease also even though you close the browser it's still running in the background.
 

absarc

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Hm I wil try this out and see how it goes. Thank you anyway!
 

SnakeDoc123

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you likely have Battlefield 4 installed, no? I see you have Origin. There is a massive known memory leak for Windows 8.1 users who have AMD video cards and Battlefield 4. Search for it, there are plenty of very angry people on the various forums.

I'm one of them :(
 

David Dutton

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If you run resource monitor off the performance tab in task manager... sort by working set...I'll bet you the SYSTEM process is using it all...

most other programs WILL NOT see the system process (ntoskernel.exe), and you are left in the dark to what's going on.

I'm having the same issue... It was fine when I had 8GB memory.. but when I installed 16, SYSTEM started using 5MB commit, 3GB working set (meaning it's not paged to the page file).. and when I went up to 32GB...system started using 16+GB of working set...

The GOOD news is, if you NEED the memory, SYSTEM will give it up and drop back down to 200KB-275MB working and 5MB commit. Ive searched the web for DAYS without any reason WHY it's doing this.. I can't find one.. I called MS.. they were clueless....

but SYSTEM is ntoskernel.exe.. the Windows Kernel.. the heart and soul of windows.. but MANY ring 0 drivers use it.. and SYSTEM does a LOT of stuff.... it manages restore points, cache data, and MANY more things.

As a test, I upgraded my partners machine today from 8 to 32... SAME result... so either it's a 8.1 bug or "feature"..

The fact that it WILLINGLY gives it up once ALL free and standby memory is exhausted sounds more like a feature to me... I don't know what all it's loading to use so much... right after boot and login, it's at 3GB working set... and over about 6 hrs.. idle or not.. it creaps up to about 8GB... after a few days.. it's hogging everything.. but again.. it will release it as the system needs it.

If it were a TRUE memory leak, then it would NOT be able to release it....

So I'm guessing this is a FEATURE of 8.1

Something like... windows sees there's 16-32GB a memory..a situation that's very rare in home machines... so it's loading something.. almost like it's loading every file of the OS it can into memory for lightning fast response times....that's just a GUESS...

Google and download PRIME 95, 64bit version... go to options, torture test.. hit custom...in MEMORY TO USE enter 16000 for a 15GB machine or 32000 for a 32GB machine.. click ok.. then INSTANTLY ... pull down TEST then STOP and hover the mouse over OK...let it run for about 15 seconds then click ok about 10 times... it may take a few seconds or up to 5 minutes to respond depending on how well your pagefiles are set up (I have 3 across 3 physical drives)... What this will do is:

1) cause system to panic dump it's working set to near nothing
2) erase the entire read cache
3) swap as much of every driver, dll, service, program, etc to the pagefile(s)... on avg about 50% the entire working set on everything will be paged... and you will end up with about 1.5GB in use... and about 6GB committed.

After this, your drives will thrash again as windows brings back some data from the page files.. but after 5 mins, the disk reads end... for a while, things will be slow to start up as code has to be read in from the page file

one way to REALLY speed this up is to stick a 32GB USB 3 thumbnail drive.. format it NTFS and dedicate it to ready boost.. that sucker can read/write data faster than any sata 3 HD.. and you will have 32GB extra cache memory that doesn't get wiped out when you run low, or did what I did above.. just make sure the stick is capable of at least 200Mbytes/sec read/write speed....300-400 is better.

My page files are set up like this:
C: 2048MB (min req for a 32GB for a dump is 1600MB)
D: 2048MB
E: 28672MB

Total page files, 32GB + 32GB RAM=64GB commit limit

I've also tried NO page file, tiny page files.. HUGE page files (3TB total).. and it does NOT affect this issue.. so it's not related to overkill use of the page files :) it's directly related to system RAM

Each drive is Raid 0, Sata 3, all non SSD...so I get around 200-250MB/sec read speed. which is just slightly slower than my 2 32GB readyboost usb3 thumbdrives.... under normal circumstances, they give me very little speed boost.. but when a hard drive is under heavy load, programs pop open as if the drive(s) weren't busy at all..
 

Mohd Azylee

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Me Too. But Just Wait. Im dont With It. It works perfectly than win 7 ultimate ;)
 

David Dutton

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Try something easier...

open up task manager

go to performance tab

click the link for resource monitor

sort by working set to the largest working set is first.. is it SYSTEM? if so.. how much is it using? If it's SYSTEM.... then you are in for a LONG road finding the issue....

or if something else shows up.. what is it and how much is it using?

Also do the above for COMMIT as well.. between those two, I can tell you what's hogging your RAM

post screenshots of 2 things

1) resource monitor with Working set sorted with highest used memory at top
1) same but with Commit
 

David Dutton

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Solved my issue... the problem was in task scheduler.. it was set to make a system restore point every time i logged in and every 1hr the computer was idle... I have 4 drives.. all raid arrays totaling around 30TB... Apparently when a system restore point is made on a system like mine, it adds to the memory use of the SYSTEM process.. once I disabled this in task scheduler.. my problem is solved

of course the issue will come back if I manually make a restore point or they happen when software is installed... but I got a utility called rammap.. and I tell it to empty all working sets.. and that drops my ram use to 1GB and commit to 2.2GB