bad gpu, good cpu?

JonasNorgren · Dec 20, 2013

Hello,

Im thinking of buying an upgrading pack to my pretty old computer, i got an GTS 450 graphic card wich is pretty bad, and i also got an i3-2100 proccesor, what im buying is basically an i5-4670k processor and a Z87 mATX mobo.

Will this work?, i will ofcourse buy a new graphic card later, but i dont have the economy for that just right now.

Thanks in advance.

Someone Somewhere · Dec 20, 2013

What motherboard? You could get an Ivy i5 and a decent GPU.

DeathAndPain · Dec 20, 2013

Why should he want to buy an outdated Ivy instead of his sound decision for an up-to-date Haswell? Ivy is not cheaper than Haswell anyway (unless you spot a retailer that desires to empty his Ivy stocks at a discount). Intel does not lower their prices for their old CPU generations.

Jonas, what you plan on doing will work. You can use your old GPU in the new mainboard.

RobCrezz · Dec 20, 2013

As above, you might already be able to put a decent Ivy I5 in your system, and use the money saved to get a new GPU.

DeathAndPain · Dec 20, 2013

As above, that will hardly work because a) Ivy is not cheaper, just older and b) even if you get a $30 sales discount on it somewhere, that is no capital which would be anywhere near sufficient to buy a decent GPU that outclasses the one he already has. Better get a good CPU now and a good GPU later than a compromise CPU and a compromise GPU now. In the meantime, he can lower graphics details and already enjoy his good CPU.

rstoledo · Dec 20, 2013

It will work, though the GPU will probably bottleneck your Processor. As you stated you would be later upgrading the GPU as well, and thus solving the bottleneck issue.

I would recommend either the ASUS Gryphon Z87 or the Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H, both would suffice for your needs, if you want an even higher end board and are willing to spend more for it, the ASUS ROG Maximus VI Gene would be your option.

Then, whenever you get the money for the VGA, the GTX 770 (best cost/value - try to get the EVGA 4GB) should be perfect with it.

RobCrezz · Dec 20, 2013

DeathAndPain :

Was suggested because his existing motherboard probably supports Ivy, without having to replace it therefore saving money.

Someone Somewhere · Dec 20, 2013

Yup. If you keep the board, you can get a nice GPU now.

JonasNorgren · Dec 20, 2013

http://www.komplett.se/uppgraderingspaket-intel-core-i5-4670k/793317

This is the pack im buying probably, i was also thinking of later upgrading to this gpu: http://www.komplett.se/gainward-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-physx-cuda/782149

Thanks for all the feedback, i would also like to know, before i buy the new GPU, this processor will still be alot better than my current one right?

Someone Somewhere · Dec 20, 2013

I'd get the 770 you linked (or a different one, or maybe a 280X), and one of these: http://www.komplett.se/intel-core-i5-3470-processor/748721

What's your current motherboard?

JonasNorgren · Dec 20, 2013

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/H67MA-E45--B3-.html is the one. Remember my budget aint so good.

EDIT: I also need to buy a PSU, so i kinda need a mATX PSU that can handle this all pretty good. My current is at like 430 watt or so.

rstoledo · Dec 20, 2013

Go with the kit you linked... Your PSU should hold it with your old GPU, it may even be used with a single GTX 770 card, please check the amps of the 12V rail in order to ensure compatibility.

When you go to your new GPU (the GTX 770, I would rather get the 4gb version of it, just in case you want to go multi-monitors that extra memory can become really needed), try to get a new PSU before the GPU ( a Modular 80Plus from 750W/850W from a good brand would be my recommendation)

Hope it helped.

JonasNorgren · Dec 20, 2013

rstoledo :

But i dont know if my case can fit a higher PSU, cause i have a mATX case.

rstoledo · Dec 20, 2013

JonasNorgren :

An usua ATX PSU should fit on a mATX case, I have never heard of a different standard for the PSU.

DeathAndPain-1360803 :

I was suggesting the PSU due to the GTX 770, although I know that he would not require such for a single card, If he decides in the future that he want to SLI the GTX 770, he would need to buy another PSU as well..

I usually set 750's~850's because those would be safer for an overall costumer, and would imagine that SLI/ XFire is no longer a 7 headed monster, and therefore is becoming more and more usual.

JonasNorgren · Dec 20, 2013

Can i have a link to a good PSU 600-700 watt for pretty cheap and fitting in my mATX case.

rstoledo · Dec 20, 2013

JonasNorgren :

As far as I know, an mATX case uses a normal ATX PSU, therefore one of the Corsair CX series should take care of it, the CX600M costs around US$54,99 while the CX750M costs US$ 59,99 (both prices from Amazon)

If you want a good PSU brand, I would suggest Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, OCZ, and even the new EVGAs... try to get a modular one, since your case is an mATX, the PSU being modular will allow a really nice cable management.

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