Which computer should I purchase for gaming

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bobby lief

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There are two computers I could buy. One is the
HP ENVY Phoenix 810-150se Desktop PC
With a 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4820K processor
2GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 [DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI, DP, DVI to VGA dongle] graphics card

While the other one is the
CORE i7 4770K 3.5GHz 8Gb RAM Nvidia GTX 770 2Gb Custom Gaming Desktop Computer
(found it on ebay)
Intel Core i7 4770K 3.5GHz Quad Core 8MB processor
EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 770 2GB DDR DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card graphics card

One I guess is off brand but has better CPU and GPU. I have no idea which one would be better for gaming. The links for both are below

http:// < HP

http:// < One found on ebay.

Please help. Thanks
 
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ixi_your_face
Hey man!
Generally it's a better idea to build you own PC, but if you don't want to, it'd be a better idea to go for the HP PC, as it's socket 2011 and is slightly cheaper. They have the same GPU and probably better warranty. However i've detailed a list of parts i'd get for roughly the same price as the HP build below;
[20:43:32] Chase: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($152.99 @ Newegg)
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Kael1989

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Hey Bobby Lief,
You're money would be way better spent either building your own or having it built for you. I don't know where you live but in Toronto we have companies such as NCIX or Canada Computers where you can go there, give them you're budget and they can walk you through the store, help you choose your parts, and for $50 even build it for you and give you warranty. For the money you would spend on those two machines you can have something much better built for you. Depending on where you live I would research which stores offer the same services as the two I mentioned and go there. Hope that helps.
 
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bobby lief

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I got offered to have one built for me. But the processor was AMD FX 4130 and the GPU was ASUS R9270 Radeon R9 270 2GB which looks worse than the GPU and CPU of these computers and it costs 1,300 as well
 
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At those prices you could build a much better system. But if I had to choose between the 2 I'd get the HP, gaming wise they'd be about equal(the hp has a bit faster CPU) however the ebay system uses many cheap lower quality components. Especially the PSU, the model it comes with is known to be a pile of garbage but they are really cheap and have somewhat of a name brand attached to it so people keep buying them.
 
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bobby lief

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Thank you so much for that website ihog, That really helped me. But
http://www.ebay.com/usr/adamant_computers you can customize every computer on there too but I feel like somehow they might be using generic parts or I don't know. But bottom line should I buy the HP or a custom? The HP is definetly going to be good but what if some custom computer website tries to rip me off or something? :( thanks
 
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Hey man!
Generally it's a better idea to build you own PC, but if you don't want to, it'd be a better idea to go for the HP PC, as it's socket 2011 and is slightly cheaper. They have the same GPU and probably better warranty. However i've detailed a list of parts i'd get for roughly the same price as the HP build below;
[20:43:32] Chase: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($96.76 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($88.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1228.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-20 15:43 EST-0500)


It's basically the same build, but with more storage and generally more balanced. You also get the joy of building a PC :D
 
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TBH, it's better to build it yourself, so, I'd say PCpartpicker (the build i linked was built there) But that's just on paper. What you would do from there is to buy all the parts and build it yourself, if you're unsure about what to do in some areas, there's tonnes of videos and tutorials that go in depth on how to build, maintain and troubleshoot PCs
 
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The K in a processor simply means that it's got an unlocked multiplier, it makes no difference really to the CPU other than you can overclock it easily, K processors are generally higher binned too. They're not really needed if you don't intend to overclock but they're really nice to have.

It'll work on any motherboard that supports the same socket of CPU. However if you wish to overclock, you should opt for a Z series motherboard. So, if the processor is a 4th generation CPU the socket is 1150. Generally you want to go for the latest generation of processor, for example the 4770k is faster than the 3770k and so on.

Just make sure that you pay attention to the socket though, for instance a 4770k is 1150, but a 4960x is 2011 as it's part of the extreme platform of processors, which is much more expensive.
 
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