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December 21, 2013 3:05:22 AM

I was just wondering, Ive seen that the asus vg248qe monitor doesn't have an hdmi port which is a bad thing for me. I know that g-sync technology isn't possible over hdmi at the moment but they should still include it for other reasons, for example i like to have my wii u and ps4 both connected to the same monitor. So will g-sync monitors eventually get this or is hdmi abandonded.

BTW i only plan on using hdmi for game consoles only, for pc i will be using display port ofc

side note: if anyone has a g-sync capable monitor then it would be very helpful if they tried playing on a ps4 or other games console via this g-sync monitor with some sort of adapter.

Thanks

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a b C Monitor
December 21, 2013 3:19:04 AM

the monitor may support hdmi. but G-sync currently only runs on display port.
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a b C Monitor
January 22, 2014 1:17:47 PM

The G-SYNC version of the VG248QE doesn't have HDMI or DVI ports.

The non-GYNC VG248QE does have HDMI, DVI, and DisplayPort outputs.

You would still be able to use that for your other inputs if you get one without the GSYNC Kit. However, due to the nature of HDMI and DVI (timed signals, instead of packets of information like DP is) GSYNC won't be coming to HDMI or DVI, but it's very possible other monitors that add it will still support other inputs, but only time will tell.
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a b C Monitor
January 22, 2014 1:34:33 PM

Nope
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a c 135 C Monitor
February 18, 2014 5:58:17 PM

HDMI, until version 2.0 comes about, does not support 120+hz. You aren't going to want to use HDMI with that monitor.

G-sync requires displayport due to technical reasons. G-sync can't work with other connection types with their current versions. Having one connection type also reduces input latency, so it is generally a good idea, for a gaming monitor, to only have a 1 connection monitor.
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March 21, 2014 3:30:20 AM

Actually I am researching in the same topic as well...

Despite not having an HDMI port, would it still be possible to use an HDMI to Display converter to connect a PS4, obviously loosing g-sync but in general would it even show the picture at whatever Hz or it wouldnt work at all ?
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a b C Monitor
March 24, 2014 5:29:02 AM

It *may* show the picture at 60Hz, but I'm not sure, never tried testing it on my GSYNC Asus. But definitely not at 144 Hz.
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a b C Monitor
March 24, 2014 10:45:47 AM

depends on the monitors available refresh rates. some support a spectrum of frequencies 29 up to 144, others are very limited .
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March 24, 2014 10:53:23 AM

HEXiT said:
depends on the monitors available refresh rates. some support a spectrum of frequencies 29 up to 144, others are very limited .


I've learned recently that I can go into the Nvidia control panel and create custom resolutions with different refresh rates not normally given. I can also create resolutions beyond my monitors capability, which results in downsampling, though I am not thrilled with those results, but it is nice to have different refresh rates. If your game can run at a constant 80+ FPS, you can create a custom 1080p resolution at 80hz, and have smooth V-sync game play.
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March 24, 2014 11:06:33 AM

Yes, an HDMI to Displayport cable will work on the monitor... even at higher refresh rates.
* but I'm guessing that the G-Sync "g-sync" mode will not work.
* However, G-Sync's "strobe mode" will still work in this setup! "strobe mode" requires a 120Hz refresh rate.


1. To drive the display at 1920x1080 @ 120Hz, you will need a cable like this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&c...

However, I would actually recommend that you chose a "high speed hdmi" cable that can support more bandwidth just to be safe:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/889553-REG/Compre...

2. Go into the Nvidia control panel and enable "strobe mode" (and disable "g-sync mode")
3. Set your computer to 120Hz

For computer use, this will enable both 120Hz refresh rates and the "strobe mode" which gets rid of blurring during any type of motion in games, scrolling, etc.... This turns off variable framerates, however.

For the PS4, I am guessing that you will be stuck with 60Hz (simply because I don't think it runs any faster??) and can't have g-sync or strobe mode. If a PS4 can be set to 120Hz, and you find you really like strobe mode, then you can use a utility like this to enable strobe mode on the monitor itself even when connected to non-nvidia systems (like the PS4): http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Strobelight-Li...

June 09 Edit: There were some errors in my post.

1. Despite what I said, if you are trying to use an HDMI cable to connect the monitor... it probably won't run at 120Hz according to the product pages. It's likely that the HDMI port is just not setup to support 120Hz on many, if not all, models right now (unless there is some other core reason why).
So, if this is true, it basically means my earlier statement is wrong. :( 
2. Even if you had a monitor that supported 120Hz on the HDMI port, that monoprice Displayport to HDMI cable likely will not work at 120Hz (because of not enough bandwidth)
3. Even at 60Hz, there is a chance the cable will only work in one direction: Displayport to HDMI instead of HDMI to Displayport -- but I'm not 100% sure. When I said "HDMI to Displayport cable" ... what I actually meant is a "Displayport to HDMI" cable.
4. Other problems: see my later post here
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a b C Monitor
March 24, 2014 11:48:28 AM

That's only assuming that the "strobe hack" isn't receiving its configuration from the computer, and doesn't reset when a new source is added.

Considering the PS3 doesn't even output past 60Hz, I doubt the PS4 will (you can say "but it's a next gen console" all you want, but the PS4 already has less media player features than the PS3 does, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was missing) so you won't be able to take advantage of strobing either.

The cable will most likely work for playing your PS4 at 1080p@60Hz, though, which I suppose as far as your question goes, that's all you need.

Edit: Just looked it up, the PS4 and XB1 both use HDMI 1.4 ports, similar to PCs still. So your max output will be 1080p@60Hz.
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March 24, 2014 11:51:14 AM

CraigN said:
That's only assuming that the "strobe hack" isn't receiving its configuration from the computer, and doesn't reset when a new source is added.

Considering the PS3 doesn't even output past 60Hz, I doubt the PS4 will (you can say "but it's a next gen console" all you want, but the PS4 already has less media player features than the PS3 does, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was missing) so you won't be able to take advantage of strobing either.

The cable will most likely work for playing your PS4 at 1080p@60Hz, though, which I suppose as far as your question goes, that's all you need.


Strobing with G-sync is no longer a hack. It's simply an option to turn on from the monitor. Though it may have a refresh rate requirement, which may not work with a PS3/PS4.
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March 24, 2014 12:38:20 PM

bystander said:

Strobing with G-sync is no longer a hack. It's simply an option to turn on from the monitor. Though it may have a refresh rate requirement, which may not work with a PS3/PS4.


I'm aware of this, I own a GSYNC VG248QE. I believe KevinAr18 was referencing the "hack" that gets it to work with Non-Nvidia systems. Although I believe the monitor button should work with non-Nvidia systems now.

It definitely has a refresh rate requirement at 120 Hz. 110 Hz might work too, but not 100% sure. I'd have to be in front of my home computer to check.
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March 24, 2014 3:19:54 PM

CraigN said:
bystander said:

Strobing with G-sync is no longer a hack. It's simply an option to turn on from the monitor. Though it may have a refresh rate requirement, which may not work with a PS3/PS4.


I'm aware of this, I own a GSYNC VG248QE. I believe KevinAr18 was referencing the "hack" that gets it to work with Non-Nvidia systems. Although I believe the monitor button should work with non-Nvidia systems now.

It definitely has a refresh rate requirement at 120 Hz. 110 Hz might work too, but not 100% sure. I'd have to be in front of my home computer to check.


Since you have one of those monitors yourself, I suppose you could check yourself.... After you enable strobe mode.... and then connect the monitor to another device running at 120Hz does it still keep using strobe mode? The "strobe mode" chip is inside the monitor, so in theory it is possible that it would keep using strobe mode on any 120Hz signal once set.
But now that you brought up the question, I do wonder if maybe it still requires software on the computer to keep using it. :)  Although, that would be a bad design, it's definitely a possibility. :) 
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a b C Monitor
March 24, 2014 6:43:48 PM

Unfortunately I don't have a HDMI to DisplayPort cable, so i can't test it on my end.

Now that I am home, I can however confirm that it requires 85 Hz, 100 Hz, or 120Hz, and the PS4s HDMI port won't output past 60, so, even with the switch, you won't be hitting 144Hz on the ASUS unfortunately.
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March 24, 2014 6:47:06 PM

CraigN said:
Unfortunately I don't have a HDMI to DisplayPort cable, so i can't test it on my end.

Now that I am home, I can however confirm that it requires 85 Hz, 100 Hz, or 120Hz, and the PS4s HDMI port won't output past 60, so, even with the switch, you won't be hitting 144Hz on the ASUS unfortunately.

Interesting, didn't know it worked at the lower 85 and 100Hz refresh rates (although I don't know if I would want to run at lower refresh rates with strobe flicker on :)  ).
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March 24, 2014 7:52:10 PM

KevinAr18 said:
CraigN said:
Unfortunately I don't have a HDMI to DisplayPort cable, so i can't test it on my end.

Now that I am home, I can however confirm that it requires 85 Hz, 100 Hz, or 120Hz, and the PS4s HDMI port won't output past 60, so, even with the switch, you won't be hitting 144Hz on the ASUS unfortunately.

Interesting, didn't know it worked at the lower 85 and 100Hz refresh rates (although I don't know if I would want to run at lower refresh rates with strobe flicker on :)  ).


Back in the CRT era, 75hz was really the point where the flicker no longer was a problem, with 85hz and above being pretty ideal. It should be fine with strobing at 85hz.
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March 24, 2014 7:58:28 PM

bystander said:
KevinAr18 said:
CraigN said:
Unfortunately I don't have a HDMI to DisplayPort cable, so i can't test it on my end.

Now that I am home, I can however confirm that it requires 85 Hz, 100 Hz, or 120Hz, and the PS4s HDMI port won't output past 60, so, even with the switch, you won't be hitting 144Hz on the ASUS unfortunately.

Interesting, didn't know it worked at the lower 85 and 100Hz refresh rates (although I don't know if I would want to run at lower refresh rates with strobe flicker on :)  ).


Back in the CRT era, 75hz was really the point where the flicker no longer was a problem, with 85hz and above being pretty ideal. It should be fine with strobing at 85hz.

I know. Although Microsoft claims that up to 85Hz physically affects people on CRTs (even if you can't see it). However, what I don't know is what rate is acceptable for LCD monitors. When it comes to flickering, there is actually multiple factors that affect whether it will make you sick or not (I'm guessing stuff, like how long it's off, how long it's on, how bright it gets, how dark it gets, etc...). In fact, testing shows that some LED lighting can even make you sick when running at 120Hz if the right combination of factors is in place. The people who actually did the research to determine comfortable refresh rates for LED lighting say that the specs should taking into account several factors beyond just the simple refresh rate, but the US stupidly (or deliberately) just set their limit to 120Hz and not any other factors. :(  Of course, this is LED lights, but it means that there are other factors that affect what refresh rate is safe for people to use.
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March 26, 2014 10:30:54 AM

bystander said:
HEXiT said:
depends on the monitors available refresh rates. some support a spectrum of frequencies 29 up to 144, others are very limited .


I've learned recently that I can go into the Nvidia control panel and create custom resolutions with different refresh rates not normally given. I can also create resolutions beyond my monitors capability, which results in downsampling, though I am not thrilled with those results, but it is nice to have different refresh rates. If your game can run at a constant 80+ FPS, you can create a custom 1080p resolution at 80hz, and have smooth V-sync game play.

yeah nvidia recently released that option to allow people who can, to overdrive(overclock) there monitors.
came about the time g-sync went beta.

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June 9, 2014 11:38:45 AM

Gabor Petlyanszki said:
Actually I am researching in the same topic as well...

Despite not having an HDMI port, would it still be possible to use an HDMI to Display converter to connect a PS4, obviously loosing g-sync but in general would it even show the picture at whatever Hz or it wouldnt work at all ?


Thats what I was thinking, I wonder if there is a HDMI splitter so one end takes the video and the other end takes the audio. Its really annoying because I really want a PS4 as well.
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June 9, 2014 11:45:39 AM

KevinAr18 said:
Yes, an HDMI to Displayport cable will work on the monitor... even at higher refresh rates.
* but I'm guessing that the G-Sync "g-sync" mode will not work.
* However, G-Sync's "strobe mode" will still work in this setup! "strobe mode" requires a 120Hz refresh rate.

1. To drive the display at 1920x1080 @ 120Hz, you will need a cable like this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&c...
However, I would actually recommend that you chose a "high speed hdmi" cable that can support more bandwidth just to be safe:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/889553-REG/Compre...

2. Go into the Nvidia control panel and enable "strobe mode" (and disable "g-sync mode")
3. Set your computer to 120Hz

For computer use, this will enable both 120Hz refresh rates and the "strobe mode" which gets rid of blurring during any type of motion in games, scrolling, etc.... This turns off variable framerates, however.

For the PS4, I am guessing that you will be stuck with 60Hz (simply because I don't think it runs any faster??) and can't have g-sync or strobe mode. If a PS4 can be set to 120Hz, and you find you really like strobe mode, then you can use a utility like this to enable strobe mode on the monitor itself even when connected to non-nvidia systems (like the PS4): http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Strobelight-Li...


That cable you recommended is mini display port from HDMI, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all G-sync monitors display port?... or are you suggesting I use a mini display port to full display port adapter?
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June 9, 2014 11:46:48 AM

KevinAr18 said:
Yes, an HDMI to Displayport cable will work on the monitor... even at higher refresh rates.
* but I'm guessing that the G-Sync "g-sync" mode will not work.
* However, G-Sync's "strobe mode" will still work in this setup! "strobe mode" requires a 120Hz refresh rate.

1. To drive the display at 1920x1080 @ 120Hz, you will need a cable like this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&c...
However, I would actually recommend that you chose a "high speed hdmi" cable that can support more bandwidth just to be safe:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/889553-REG/Compre...

2. Go into the Nvidia control panel and enable "strobe mode" (and disable "g-sync mode")
3. Set your computer to 120Hz

For computer use, this will enable both 120Hz refresh rates and the "strobe mode" which gets rid of blurring during any type of motion in games, scrolling, etc.... This turns off variable framerates, however.

For the PS4, I am guessing that you will be stuck with 60Hz (simply because I don't think it runs any faster??) and can't have g-sync or strobe mode. If a PS4 can be set to 120Hz, and you find you really like strobe mode, then you can use a utility like this to enable strobe mode on the monitor itself even when connected to non-nvidia systems (like the PS4): http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Strobelight-Li...


Another problem is how can you get audio from the PS4 isn't display port video only but hdmi is video and audio?

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June 9, 2014 5:36:56 PM

Muaz Hassan said:
KevinAr18 said:
Yes, an HDMI to Displayport cable will work on the monitor... even at higher refresh rates.
* but I'm guessing that the G-Sync "g-sync" mode will not work.
* However, G-Sync's "strobe mode" will still work in this setup! "strobe mode" requires a 120Hz refresh rate.

1. To drive the display at 1920x1080 @ 120Hz, you will need a cable like this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&c...
However, I would actually recommend that you chose a "high speed hdmi" cable that can support more bandwidth just to be safe:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/889553-REG/Compre...

2. Go into the Nvidia control panel and enable "strobe mode" (and disable "g-sync mode")
3. Set your computer to 120Hz

For computer use, this will enable both 120Hz refresh rates and the "strobe mode" which gets rid of blurring during any type of motion in games, scrolling, etc.... This turns off variable framerates, however.

For the PS4, I am guessing that you will be stuck with 60Hz (simply because I don't think it runs any faster??) and can't have g-sync or strobe mode. If a PS4 can be set to 120Hz, and you find you really like strobe mode, then you can use a utility like this to enable strobe mode on the monitor itself even when connected to non-nvidia systems (like the PS4): http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Strobelight-Li...


Another problem is how can you get audio from the PS4 isn't display port video only but hdmi is video and audio?


Seems I got some things wrong in my older post. So, let me correct some errors and clarify a few things.
1. 120Hz+HDMI probably won't work on current monitors. Despite what I said, if you are trying to use an HDMI cable to connect the monitor (like the Asus VG248QE)... it probably won't run at 120Hz according to the product pages. It's likely that the HDMI port is just not setup to support 120Hz on many, if not all, models right now (unless there is some other core reason why).
So, if this is true, it basically means my earlier statement is wrong. :( 
2. Second, even if you had a monitor that supported 120Hz on the HDMI port, that monoprice Displayport to HDMI cable likely will not work at 120Hz (because of not enough bandwidth).
I think you may need over 8.9 Gigabits for 1920x1080 @ 120Hz (could be wrong about the bandwidth number, but I think it's pretty close, if not accurate, based another forum's forum post.)

3. Even at 60Hz there is a chance the cable will only work in one direction: Displayport to HDMI instead of HDMI to Displayport -- but I'm not 100% sure. When I said "HDMI to Displayport cable" ... what I actually meant is a "Displayport to HDMI" cable.

Assuming you can actually get a device that supports 120Hz on the HDMI port (which may not even be available or possible), here are some other notes:
1. Older Displayport to HDMI cables do not support higher refresh rates at 1920x1080.
2. In order to get enough bandwidth for 1920x1080 @ 120Hz, you will need a Displayport to HDMI cable that is listed as supporting HDMI 1.4 and/or 300Mhz TMDS. [HDMI 1.3 may work too, since the bandwidth should be high enough, but I'm not 100% sure it will.] Optionally, you can check the bandwidth and make sure it is 8.9 Gigabits or more to be safe (for 1920x1080@120Hz) -- again, I may have the wrong bandwidth number.
3. Although the newer HDMI 1.4 (and maybe HDMI 1.3) cables *should* have enough bandwidth for 1080p@120Hz, I am not 100% certain if they actually run 120Hz refresh rates properly or at all. However, the bhphotovideo product page does claim 120Hz support for one of their cables, so that's a good sign. (Although the page doesn't specifically state which HDMI version it is, which makes it hard to draw a conclusion about a particular HDMI version from just that page.)

So..., as of right now, HDMI + 120Hz on most (if not all) monitors probably won't work.
Also, that monoprice cable likely will not work at 120Hz.

Sorry for the errors and all in my previous post.

Also:
* Converting Displayport to DVI using a "passive" cable is limited to around 1920x1200 @ 60Hz.

Some of the information is from here (and other sources):
http://www.displayport.org/pr/vesa-introduces-updated-d...
This page explains how to properly calculate bandwidth for HDMI:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/996218/how-to-calculate-hdmi-...
Muaz Hassan said:
Another problem is how can you get audio from the PS4 isn't display port video only but hdmi is video and audio?

I suspect the PS4 has various analog audio cable out plugs. If so, you may be able to use those separate from the video system.
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June 9, 2014 9:41:32 PM

DisplayPort is also Video & Audio.

120+ Hz HDMI doesn't work on the VG248QE because it is HDMI 1.4a, not 1.4b or 2.0. Most HDTVs also use some trickery on the TV side to make even non-HDMI 1.4b compatible devices display the content in 120 Hz (similar to how 240Hz is really 120 Hz with inserted frames, or something like that).
#2 of what Kevin said is correct.
3) Also most likely correct.

You need HDMI 1.4B (not A) to get up to 120Hz at 1080p, but it's dependent on the device on the other end supporting it as well.
The VG248QE ONLY Supports up to 60Hz over HDMI. It's 144 Hz functionality is locked to its DVI and DisplayPort interfaces, because it's HDMI is only a 1.4a version port.
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June 9, 2014 9:50:36 PM

To be clear, HDMI 1.4b does not support 120hz either. It only appears to in HD3D by using a trick, but that trick does not work for 2D. Only HDMI 2.0 supports 120hz. HD3D supports 60hz (120hz if you add up both eyes) by using frame packing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
Quote:
HDMI 1.4b was released on October 11, 2011.[153] One of the new features is that it adds support to 3D 1080p video at 120 Hz – allowing frame packing 3D format at 1080p60 per Eye (120 Hz total).[154] All future versions of the HDMI specification will be made by the HDMI Forum that was created on October 25, 2011.[43][155]


Notice that it added support for 3D at 60hz per eye at 1080p (1.4a only supported up to 720p), but it does not support it in 2D.
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June 10, 2014 7:20:20 AM

Ah, good catch bystander, my mistake.
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June 10, 2014 11:27:18 AM

Just to clarify, I don't want to use 3D on the PS4 I just want 60Hz on my G-sync monitor (e.g ROG SWIFT PG278Q) via a HDMI (from PS4 or PS3) cable to a display port which connects to my monitor. I am aware G-sync will not work on the PS4 via my G-sync monitor. Can anyone find a HDMI to display port adapter or a HDMI that splits into display port and a audio end. The PS4 probably will never go past 60 fps anyway.

If anyone has a G-sync monitor then it would be amazing if they could test to see if a HDMI (from PS3 or PS4) to display port (connected to G-sync monitor) adapter works.

Thanks for your support
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June 10, 2014 2:55:08 PM

Muaz Hassan said:
Just to clarify, I don't want to use 3D on the PS4 I just want 60Hz on my G-sync monitor (e.g ROG SWIFT PG278Q) via a HDMI (from PS4 or PS3) cable to a display port which connects to my monitor. I am aware G-sync will not work on the PS4 via my G-sync monitor. Can anyone find a HDMI to display port adapter or a HDMI that splits into display port and a audio end. The PS4 probably will never go past 60 fps anyway.

If anyone has a G-sync monitor then it would be amazing if they could test to see if a HDMI (from PS3 or PS4) to display port (connected to G-sync monitor) adapter works.

Thanks for your support

Considering how cheap the cables are (just a few dollars), you could always give it a try. However, another tomshardware post seems to suggest that the reverse is not possible with the simple "passive" Displayport to HDMI ... it may not even be reversable with the "active" ones too, but I can't say 100% for sure.
(Also, I didn't realize your monitor was a higher resolution (2560x1440). If you want to use this higher resolution for the PS4, then I may need to do more research to find out what will work.)

If you can live with just 1080p (instead of the full resolution for your monitor), here's an option. Note that audio, also, may or may not route through this setup:
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/atlona-at-dp400-signal-conv...
Then you will need to add:
* an HDMI to DVI cable: http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=102&cp_id=10231
* a mini Displayport to Displayport cable: http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&...
* Also, notice that the adapter has a USB plug. This is probably to provide a power source. So you may need to plug it into the USB port on the PS4 or the monitor. (If you connect the USB to the monitor, you may need a cable to connect the USB from the computer to the monitor ... which means the computer must be on... which is probably a bad idea for PS4 use.)

Or, you can use adapters:
HDMI - DVI: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&c...
mini Displayport - Displayport: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&c...

According to monoprice, audio won't work because of the HDMI-DVI adapter/cable being just single link. However, I have used one of those cables from monoprice and it definitely sends audio when using DVI to HDMI (the reverse of what they talk about). So it may or may not send audio for you. If it doesn't, you may need to wire audio separately using the "Digital Output" plug on the PS4.
The reason you will be limited to 1920x1080 is also because of the singe link DVI-HDMI adapter/cable.


An alternative is this one, but I don't know if you can buy it anywhere:
http://www.atlona.com/ATLONA-HDMI-MINI-DISPLAYPORT-TO-M...


Side note: As crazy as it sounds, considering how much you would spend for this adapter, and then how complicated it would get, it might actually be better to just buy a $150 - $200 monitor just for the PS4 (and maybe as as second monitor for computer use).
Consider this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
You have a TN panel for $160 - the Hanns-G HL269DPB
You have two VA panels for $200 - the BenQ GW2750HM & Acer G6 Series G276HLGbd
You have an IPS panel for @210 - the Acer H6 H276HLbmid
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