New i5-4670k Gaming Build

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Hello,
Let me start off by saying I am new to the forum, and over the past few months I have learned a lot about computers, but I still lack your guys' superior knowledge. Also, I plan to spend about $800ish on the just the computer (no monitor, mouse, keyboard. etc.) I plan to do gaming on this. This is what my setup looks like so far

-Intel i5-4670k
-MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate
-G. Skill Sniper Series 8gb
-WD Caviar Blue 1 TB
-Not sure about the gpu yet (650ti boost or 7870)
-Corsair cx600 psu
-I also already have a case (Cooler Master Storm Enforcer)

I am really torn between the two gpus because the 650ti boost can be bought for about $130 while the 7870 recently jumped from $150 to $200. I don't want to waste my money on a poor card, however, I don't want to be dumping a lot of money on a card that's not really necessary. I really appreciate all feedback and hope you guys can teach me something :)

 
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That's a good deal. I live in Florida, so it doesn't really work out for me. Forgot to mention, don't skimp on the PSU. Get a good one, and it'll last you a decade. I plan on using both of those PSUs for the next two builds each. Here's a great list compiled by dottorrent in the forums.

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $791.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-22 23:59 EST-0500)

This build will be a MUCH better option. The CPU series may not be as strong, but the FX-8350 will not give you any noticeably less performance than the 4670k. The CPU in a gaming computer is not as important as the graphics card. As you probably know, the 760 destroys the 650 ti boost and beats the 7870 in real world gaming. Plus it has 4 GB of GDDR5 memory, so you'll be able to play games on high/ultra easily. This is a much more effective build than what you have there.
 

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I would add an SSD to that build. They're super fast and run fairly cheap (120gb should be more than enough for OS and a few games). Another thing is, do you plan on overclocking?

Also, check out pcpartpicker.com to help you with the parts. You can edit what has been purchased and for what price. It'll also make your build/budget easier to see in the forums. For example, here's one I just built for my sister. No SSD, but with your budget, you may be able to add one with a few tweaks.

EDIT: Looks like pinkanator beat me to it. That build is excellent, and that PSU is better than the one you're looking at.
 

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If you're going to go that route, I would suggest this build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ozd0

It includes an SSD, but you can remove that to $815.91. It also gives you some room to OC.
 

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Thanks. Great GPU is the most important for gaming, since most modern CPU won't be bottlenecks. I actually built that system because the 7870 was on sale for $139.99, and my sister wanted a new computer. Holiday sales are amazing.

Don't forget that you can buy all of these things in parts. If you see a deal, you can basically buy anything except CPU and mobo, as those are dependent upon the other. For example, here's my own build. I have yet to pick up a GPU since I'm waiting to see the benchmarks for non-reference R9 290/x. I bought the ram first, then the case, then the power supply, then the CPU cooler, then the HDDs, then the case fan, then the CPU, then the mobo, over the course of a month.
 

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All I'm worried about is getting an FX-8350 with a gtx 760 and having the cpu become outdated too soon... With the i5 I feel more secure with the future in mind, but on the other hand, the amd chip will cut down on costs...really torn on what to do here
 

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That's a good deal. I live in Florida, so it doesn't really work out for me. Forgot to mention, don't skimp on the PSU. Get a good one, and it'll last you a decade. I plan on using both of those PSUs for the next two builds each. Here's a great list compiled by dottorrent in the forums.
 
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I would honestly go with the XFX power supply I used in my sister's build (this one), or the PC Power & Cooling pinkanator linked. The Seasonic I used in my build might be a little pricey now that it's no longer on sale. Check the tier list I previously linkd for some info. It's actually compiled from the ratings of several respected PSU reviewers. Also, I like EVGA's warranty much better than MSI's, so for the same price, I would use the EVGA 760 (this one).
 

Whereisthefly

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Thank you so much for all your help! You have definitely helped me realize so much about which parts are important (PSU and GPU) and the PSU was easy to think that it's not all that important.
 

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Also, I would get this board instead. It's pretty god damn awesome for performance and overclocking (and I also like the looks, thought that's personal preference), not to mention it also won a Tom's Smart Buy Award. You'll stay under $800, and be able to OC the snot out of it (relatively speaking).
 

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Don't mention it. Lower quality PSUs can burn out, or have misleading power ratings (like completely different methods of calculating total output).

EDIT: This is what I would do if going with an 8350.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2oASF

Let us know what you end up getting, and how it goes. In fact, it would be fun if you created a build log on pcpartpicker and posted it here. We're all enthusiasts, and seeing new builds is great.
 

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I usually wouldn't go below ~650w, since that will leave you some room for OC, SSD, and maybe SLI if you feel like it later on. Also, the price difference between 650w and ~550w is pretty small (in fact, 650s are sometimes cheaper due to sales). Basically, get a ~650w since it's not much more, and you get way more flexibility. Furthermore, most <600w PSU are not modular, meaning you end up with a mess of extra cables that can potentially block airflow.
 

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I actually noticed how many PSUs over 600ish watt is modular, and I definitely will post the build log! Is it just under completed build? and then I just post the link here? Anyways it might be a month or so before I get everything so I don't want to leave you guys hanging
 

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I guess manufacturers just figured 600w is when it gets to enthusiast builds where the user would care about cable management.

When you "View" your build page on pcpartpicker, there's a "Have you built this configuration? Show off your work!". Just click that link, and it'll open up a template. Just keep a bookmark on this page, and post it whenever you're done. Good luck, and don't forget to check out guides and/or ask any questions in the forums if you run into problems (there's a thermal paste application post that's super helpful).
 

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If you are going to SLI then you will need a 750w+ PSU, though I wouldn't recommend it. And the FX-8350 will be outdated the same time the i5-4670k will be (they have about equal performance). Also, the AM3+ socket can support up to a 9590 and the full tower I gave you will allow you to put the proper cooling needed for that CPU.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($244.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $835.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-23 23:04 EST-0500)

Everything is looking good. If you can save up the ~$40 extra dollars, the 4 GB 760 will be WELL worth the money (Battlefield 4 is at 3 GB already, 4 GB will help you out).
 

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ALright thank you. From the money that I will be saving from the cpu and mobo combo there is no reason that I shouldn't be able to purchase that GPU. Also with the free games that are bundled with GPUs, it makes it more worth it.
 

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Alright guys, I have just one more question. I am wondering if a 550watt psu will be enough because I heard the amperage on the 12v rails is all that matters.


CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.21 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $864.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-25 20:23 EST-0500

 

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600w will be safer, but you can get by with 550w. It's usually better to have more power than you'll need so that when you do more strenuous tasks you are assured to have enough power.