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December 23, 2013 12:44:48 AM

If I go for the i5, I will get an AsRock Z87 Extreme 3 mobo. I am not sure which mobo to get for the Xeon yet, but will try to keep it as cheap as possible.

Going for the i5 binds me to an R9 270X (budget-wise). going for the Xeon, will probably allow an R9 280X. What should I do, considering that the Xeon system will not have much of an upgrade path, but should last longer?

I already have:

PSU: Corsair CX500 80 Plus

Case: NZXT Phantom 410

RAM: Kingston HyperX CL9 2x4 GB 1600Mhz,
Kingston CL10 2x2 GB 1333Mhz (old RAM)

HDD: 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 500 GB

SSD: Plextor M5 120GB

Monitor: LG computer screen 1600x900 at 60Hz

Mouse: Logitech G400s

Keyboard: Logitech G100(from a combo)

Headset: Sennheiser HD 201

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December 23, 2013 12:57:56 AM

i5's are great gaming cpu's, Xeons are generally used in servers are they have a lower clock speed and a higher amount of cores, I would go with the i5
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December 23, 2013 1:01:43 AM

xeon is made for running 24/7 and cannot be overclocked due to the motherboard not supporting it. the i5 can be overclocked, and usually has higher stock speeds
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December 23, 2013 1:04:40 AM

Wow, that was quick!
Thanks for replying. So you suggest going with the i5 combo? Even with a lower GPU?
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December 23, 2013 1:05:19 AM

Your PSU already binds you to r9 270x, running r9 280x on a 500W PSU is kind of risky.
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December 23, 2013 1:05:56 AM

gauravnba said:
Wow, that was quick!
Thanks for replying. So you suggest going with the i5 combo? Even with a lower GPU?


yes. the i5 is more future proof so you have the ability to upgrade gpu in the future without upgrading cpu.
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December 23, 2013 1:27:48 AM

Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.
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December 23, 2013 1:35:42 AM

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The 270X is a very good card, however if you are confident with overclocking GPU's, save some money and get the 270, it's just an underclocked 270X. Hope this helps :) 

It does help quite a lot good sir! If you can point to some evidence for the same I will be forever grateful!

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yes. the i5 is more future proof so you have the ability to upgrade gpu in the future without upgrading cpu.

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xeon is made for running 24/7 and cannot be overclocked due to the motherboard not supporting it. the i5 can be overclocked, and usually has higher stock speeds


Thanks, this helped me make the decision real quick!

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Your PSU already binds you to r9 270x, running r9 280x on a 500W PSU is kind of risky.


I agree with you on that. Well, I guess it should suffice till my next upgrade:D 
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December 23, 2013 1:41:20 AM

RobCrezz said:
Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.


I do not mind overclocking, but I will resort to it if required. Like if I go crossfire in the future. I would like whichever build will last me longer.

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December 23, 2013 1:46:38 AM

gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.


I do not mind overclocking, but I will resort to it if required. Like if I go crossfire in the future. I would like whichever build will last me longer.



Performance will be very similar between the two. If you get a good 4670k then you might be able to get a good overclock, but its luck of the draw. However, games are starting to get more multithreaded, which gives the xeon/i7 an advantage with hyperthreading.

To be honest, both will be "useable" in gaming for similar amount of time.

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December 23, 2013 1:53:01 AM

@ Derpeh
Thanks for that link. I considered the 270 as much lower than the 270x with locked units.
However, will the absence of that one extra 6-pin connector limit its overclocking on its way to 270x equivalence?
I am only running it to power 1600x900 screen, but would like to run most games on ultra, if possible.
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December 23, 2013 1:56:17 AM

RobCrezz said:
gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.


I do not mind overclocking, but I will resort to it if required. Like if I go crossfire in the future. I would like whichever build will last me longer.



Performance will be very similar between the two. If you get a good 4670k then you might be able to get a good overclock, but its luck of the draw. However, games are starting to get more multithreaded, which gives the xeon/i7 an advantage with hyperthreading.

To be honest, both will be "useable" in gaming for similar amount of time.



I see. So would you recommend Xeon with 280x/270x, or otherwise? According to most of the people here, my PSU won't be able to handle the 280X.:( 
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December 23, 2013 2:02:57 AM

gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.


I do not mind overclocking, but I will resort to it if required. Like if I go crossfire in the future. I would like whichever build will last me longer.



Performance will be very similar between the two. If you get a good 4670k then you might be able to get a good overclock, but its luck of the draw. However, games are starting to get more multithreaded, which gives the xeon/i7 an advantage with hyperthreading.

To be honest, both will be "useable" in gaming for similar amount of time.



I see. So would you recommend Xeon with 280x/270x, or otherwise? According to most of the people here, my PSU won't be able to handle the 280X.:( 


Personally, I would say your PSU will be fine with the 280x. In general gaming the a 280x will draw about 210w, in total your system would probably draw about 360w.

A lot of people on here, tend to err on the side of caution with PSUs, which is a good thing, but it has kind of snowballed.
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December 23, 2013 2:04:21 AM

Derpeh said:
gauravnba said:


I see. So would you recommend Xeon with 280x/270x, or otherwise? According to most of the people here, my PSU won't be able to handle the 280X.:( 


The minimum PSU requirement for the 280X is 600W


I wouldnt pay any attention to AMDs recommendations for PSUs, they really are assuming everyone has a no name brand PSU with most of its power on the 5v rail...
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December 23, 2013 2:06:02 AM

It's true that a 500W PSU can handle r9 280x, but I am not sure if Corsair CX will be able to pull that off on a longer period.
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December 23, 2013 2:10:40 AM

Foldalot said:
It's true that a 500W PSU can handle r9 280x, but I am not sure if Corsair CX will be able to pull that off on a longer period.



Corsair CX PSUs are good IMO, I have used a few of them with no issues, including a CX500 which has been running in a gaming pc for about 4 years or so with no problems.


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December 23, 2013 2:13:08 AM

Derpeh said:
gauravnba said:
@ Derpeh
Thanks for that link. I considered the 270 as much lower than the 270x with locked units.
However, will the absence of that one extra 6-pin connector limit its overclocking on its way to 270x equivalence?
I am only running it to power 1600x900 screen, but would like to run most games on ultra, if possible.


http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/13/am...
It wont stop it from reaching 270X speeds, but it will prevent it from surpassing by much. So basically, you'll be able to achieve a higher overclock amount on the 270X compared to the 270, but the 270 shouldn't be a problem to reach - and slightly exceed 270X stock speeds :)  at 1600x900, you should have no trouble with that GPU reaching at least high settings on the majority of games with decent FPS :) 


RobCrezz said:
gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
gauravnba said:
RobCrezz said:
Ok, lots of incorrect info here. The Xeon E3 1230 v3 is basically a i7 4770 without the integrated graphics. Its a very good cpu for the price, especially if you dont intend to overclock. Its not a "server class" cpu, it works on a regular Z87/H87 board, and its quite cheap. The Hyperthreading is also a useful bonus over the i5.

However, if you do intend on overclocking, then the 4670k is the way to go.


I do not mind overclocking, but I will resort to it if required. Like if I go crossfire in the future. I would like whichever build will last me longer.



Performance will be very similar between the two. If you get a good 4670k then you might be able to get a good overclock, but its luck of the draw. However, games are starting to get more multithreaded, which gives the xeon/i7 an advantage with hyperthreading.

To be honest, both will be "useable" in gaming for similar amount of time.



I see. So would you recommend Xeon with 280x/270x, or otherwise? According to most of the people here, my PSU won't be able to handle the 280X.:( 


Personally, I would say your PSU will be fine with the 280x. In general gaming the a 280x will draw about 210w, in total your system would probably draw about 360w.

A lot of people on here, tend to err on the side of caution with PSUs, which is a good thing, but it has kind of snowballed.


Yeah, research on the topic points in favour of that. I have absolutely no intention of contradicting anyone on forums, but evidence suggests that my PSU should be able to handle the 280X.

That is exactly why I have been sitting on the fence with this set-up. I can't seem to decide which config will be more suitable, what with BF4 being so scalable on multiple threads.
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December 23, 2013 2:37:01 AM

Derpeh said:
gauravnba said:

Yeah, research on the topic points in favour of that. I have absolutely no intention of contradicting anyone on forums, but evidence suggests that my PSU should be able to handle the 280X.


Shouldn't have a problem with your PSU on a 280X


Soooooo, Xeon+280x? Or i5+270 and then later upgrades?:??: 
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December 23, 2013 2:38:53 AM

gauravnba said:
Derpeh said:
gauravnba said:

Yeah, research on the topic points in favour of that. I have absolutely no intention of contradicting anyone on forums, but evidence suggests that my PSU should be able to handle the 280X.


Shouldn't have a problem with your PSU on a 280X


Soooooo, Xeon+280x? Or i5+270 and then later upgrades?:??: 


If you plan to get a good cpu cooler and overclock in the future, get the 4670k (make sure you get a Z87 board), if not get a H87 and the 1230 v3.

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December 23, 2013 2:46:03 AM

For the best performance in games now, the 280x will make the bigger difference than either CPU.
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December 23, 2013 2:46:20 AM

RobCrezz said:
gauravnba said:
Derpeh said:
gauravnba said:

Yeah, research on the topic points in favour of that. I have absolutely no intention of contradicting anyone on forums, but evidence suggests that my PSU should be able to handle the 280X.


Shouldn't have a problem with your PSU on a 280X


Soooooo, Xeon+280x? Or i5+270 and then later upgrades?:??: 


If you plan to get a good cpu cooler and overclock in the future, get the 4670k (make sure you get a Z87 board), if not get a H87 and the 1230 v3.



I would like to overclock, after I get a nice cooler, but the risk in the silicon quality kinda keeps me at bay. I live in India and the QC here is shoddy (don't know if that's a factor in the silicon lottery), making me think twice before I buy anything.

Also, is there really that big a difference between mATX boards and full ATX? I was thinking of getting the B85M-D3H (for the Xeon, if I opt for that)

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December 23, 2013 2:52:10 AM

not much difference. mATX boards will have less expansion and ports usually.

I wouldnt worry about the silicon quality being in India as I would presume that the CPUs will come from the same place regardless.


These are both good cpus, so either will be good. Using good cpus like these will mean the performance of games will be down to what GPU you have for the most part.
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December 23, 2013 2:56:47 AM

RobCrezz said:
not much difference. mATX boards will have less expansion and ports usually.

I wouldnt worry about the silicon quality being in India as I would presume that the CPUs will come from the same place regardless.


These are both good cpus, so either will be good. Using good cpus like these will mean the performance of games will be down to what GPU you have for the most part.


Alright! So I guess the i5+extreme 3+R9 270, should be the way to go! The 270 can crossfire with a 270x right (for future expansion)?
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December 23, 2013 3:05:16 AM

I am just considering availability of cards here too (down the line, possibly used)
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December 23, 2013 3:26:09 AM

Thanks everyone for your help! Sadly, there can only be one Best Solution, even though everyone contributed so enthusiastically.

I will update the thread on obtaining the components, as is customary.

Best Solution chosen by gauravnba (OP)
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December 23, 2013 5:25:56 AM

i know it sounds hypocrite but i have changed my mind. the xeon is basically a locked i7 without igpu. it has 4 cores and 8 threads. teh i5 only got 4 cores (4threads) so the xeon is basically better for now. 8 threads will also help in the future.
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December 23, 2013 7:42:01 PM

Yeah, but as has been pointed out on numerous forums including this thread, there is nothing to lose going with the i5. Only the experience of overclocking and a possible crossfire is to be gained, both of which will be denied to me, if I wish to go with tge Xeon combo, right?
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December 23, 2013 8:50:41 PM

The xeon can overclock to its turbo boost speeds of i think is 3.7ghz, it has a lower tdp and no igpu so will run cooler, and the xeon works in any z87 other lga 1150 boards so crossfire support is not lost just higher overclocks. HT with the xeon can sometimes hurt performance and sometimes improve performance of maybe 1-4% over the i5 but will help with multi tasking and other things will use the HT and HT can be turned off. I would go with the xeon just because u get the i7 performance for the i5 price and only lose the huge OC capability
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December 24, 2013 2:28:37 AM

I see your point. Yet, I can't justify getting a Z87 and a 'locked' CPU. I am a little compulsive in that way :pt1cable: .
I know some of you will suggest an AMD FX 8320 in that case, but I have never tried AMD. Always gotten Intel and never disappointed:D 
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December 24, 2013 7:37:20 AM

Just to clarify though, am I really missing out on something by going for the i5, instead of the Xeon?
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February 24, 2014 2:00:41 AM

Reviving necropost! I was researching the xeon a bit further for someone and found this thread. Anyhow, it's the other way around. You'll be missing out on the joy of overclocking if you pass on the i5. The xeon, other than hyperthreading and faster out of the box numbers you won't be missing anything. If you put in the time and push your i5 right you will likely pass up the xeon and have your system sitting pretty! Which way did you go btw?
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February 25, 2014 9:07:23 AM

jnewegger23 said:
Reviving necropost! I was researching the xeon a bit further for someone and found this thread. Anyhow, it's the other way around. You'll be missing out on the joy of overclocking if you pass on the i5. The xeon, other than hyperthreading and faster out of the box numbers you won't be missing anything. If you put in the time and push your i5 right you will likely pass up the xeon and have your system sitting pretty! Which way did you go btw?


Hi i know this isnt relevant but it saves clogging up the forum with the same answers. Im looking at either a 4670k or 1230 v3 ill probably only oc to 4.2 ghz on 4670k and maybe oc the 1230 v3 if i can. Ill be getting the Asrock B85 Killer which according to someone can oc. Ill be getting the 270x regardless of which cpu.

Thanks
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February 25, 2014 9:57:33 AM

It's totally related but I can't say much more than what's already been said. I'd get the 4670k for all the reasons explained above. Have fun!
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February 25, 2014 10:18:50 AM

it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard
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February 25, 2014 9:12:59 PM

@_Vass good point. didn't think about that. ^+1 "What he said!"
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February 26, 2014 3:58:51 AM

_Vass said:
it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard


Usually correct, but the B85 Killer is the exception.
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March 1, 2014 10:58:50 AM

_Vass said:
it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard


Hi,

I decided to go with this

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£185.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£73.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.52 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£162.30)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.76 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.96 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-K7100 Wired Slim Keyboard (Purchased For £9.70)
Other: Thermaltake Ttesports Shock Headset - Blue (Purchased For £31.76)
Other: ASUS VE247H (£24.99)
Other: Perixx MX-3000R (Purchased For £29.99)
Total: £740.35

After i get the 1230 V3 and say how well it performs
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March 1, 2014 5:38:08 PM

Laputa said:
_Vass said:
it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard


Hi,

I decided to go with this

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£185.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£73.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.52 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£162.30)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.76 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.96 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-K7100 Wired Slim Keyboard (Purchased For £9.70)
Other: Thermaltake Ttesports Shock Headset - Blue (Purchased For £31.76)
Other: ASUS VE247H (£24.99)
Other: Perixx MX-3000R (Purchased For £29.99)
Total: £740.35

After i get the 1230 V3 and say how well it performs

change the 1x8 gb ram to 2x4gb for dual channel and you're good to go
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March 1, 2014 6:25:53 PM

Willdobbo said:
i5's are great gaming cpu's, Xeons are generally used in servers are they have a lower clock speed and a higher amount of cores, I would go with the i5


That's not always true. Compare i5 4670K or Xeon E3 1230 V3.

The Xeon is only 100MHz slower, either at base or turbo clock, than the i5 4670K. So the clock speed advantage of the Core i5 is effectively meaningless unless you're going to overclock it. But now look at the Cache and threads. Xeon has 8MB of cache vs i5's 6MB. Xeon has hyperthreading support for 8 threads, while i5 does not have hyperthreading. So all in all, if you don't overclock the Core i5, Xeon is a better CPU. It's basically a Core i7, with a discount. What a great find.
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March 2, 2014 1:05:59 AM

jacobian said:
Willdobbo said:
i5's are great gaming cpu's, Xeons are generally used in servers are they have a lower clock speed and a higher amount of cores, I would go with the i5


That's not always true. Compare i5 4670K or Xeon E3 1230 V3.

The Xeon is only 100MHz slower, either at base or turbo clock, than the i5 4670K. So the clock speed advantage of the Core i5 is effectively meaningless unless you're going to overclock it. But now look at the Cache and threads. Xeon has 8MB of cache vs i5's 6MB. Xeon has hyperthreading support for 8 threads, while i5 does not have hyperthreading. So all in all, if you don't overclock the Core i5, Xeon is a better CPU. It's basically a Core i7, with a discount. What a great find.


i know. it has only been said like 5x on this thread now and i already stated that i changed my mind...
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March 2, 2014 5:55:01 AM

_Vass said:
Laputa said:
_Vass said:
it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard


Hi,

I decided to go with this

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£185.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£73.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.52 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£162.30)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.76 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.96 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-K7100 Wired Slim Keyboard (Purchased For £9.70)
Other: Thermaltake Ttesports Shock Headset - Blue (Purchased For £31.76)
Other: ASUS VE247H (£24.99)
Other: Perixx MX-3000R (Purchased For £29.99)
Total: £740.35

After i get the 1230 V3 and say how well it performs

change the 1x8 gb ram to 2x4gb for dual channel and you're good to go


Ill be getting another stick in a few months for dual channel and its cheaper than any 2x4gb sticks
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May 7, 2014 8:38:43 PM

Laputa said:
_Vass said:
Laputa said:
_Vass said:
it is a pain to overclock if you're not on a z platform in most cases not even possible. dont go with the i5 k version if you dont get a z- motherboard


Hi,

I decided to go with this

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£185.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£73.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.42 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.52 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£162.30)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£8.76 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.96 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-K7100 Wired Slim Keyboard (Purchased For £9.70)
Other: Thermaltake Ttesports Shock Headset - Blue (Purchased For £31.76)
Other: ASUS VE247H (£24.99)
Other: Perixx MX-3000R (Purchased For £29.99)
Total: £740.35

After i get the 1230 V3 and say how well it performs

change the 1x8 gb ram to 2x4gb for dual channel and you're good to go


Ill be getting another stick in a few months for dual channel and its cheaper than any 2x4gb sticks


So, Hows that Xenon working out?

I'm looking at getting one v shortly.......
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May 26, 2014 3:16:42 AM

I would go for the Xeon E3 1230 V3 if it allows a 280X in place of a 270X. If you want gaming go for the better GPU rather than a better CPU.
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May 26, 2014 8:36:46 AM

TheGamezKid said:
I would go for the Xeon E3 1230 V3 if it allows a 280X in place of a 270X. If you want gaming go for the better GPU rather than a better CPU.


Totally agree. Right now I'm on a R9 290 pair w a lol wait for it, G3220 lol it does play games at high tho.
Can't wait for Xeon!
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May 26, 2014 12:28:32 PM

JimmiGilbi said:
TheGamezKid said:
I would go for the Xeon E3 1230 V3 if it allows a 280X in place of a 270X. If you want gaming go for the better GPU rather than a better CPU.


Totally agree. Right now I'm on a R9 290 pair w a lol wait for it, G3220 lol it does play games at high tho.
Can't wait for Xeon!


Yeah? I've got a 7950 paired with wait for it..... An AMD Phenom II 550 :lol: 
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May 27, 2014 1:15:33 AM

This is an old thread guys.
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May 27, 2014 3:02:27 PM

True Brian, it should be closed now tbh.
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July 1, 2014 12:18:16 AM

Hi, sorry for the necropost, I went with the i5 4670k in the end. Assembled the system in January. The joy of overclocking was too dear to pass up. Saving up for a good CPU cooler now. The complete config is the i5 with an AsRock Z87 Extreme3,
2x4GB Kingston HyperX Blu RAM,
Plextor M5s SSD,
NZXT Phantom 410 Case,
Corsair CX500 PSU,

https://imageshack.com/a/JuUz/1
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July 27, 2014 3:58:48 PM

Hi folks, I am glad you didn't close this thread. Dang good read, and I wanted to put in my two-penneth. Especially since lots of folks are posting about something I am interested in about PSU's.

First though, I have ordered from Amazon an i5 4690. The Xeon E3 1230 V3 is £25 more. It's most attractive feature to me is its power rating being less than the i5. (Now I am tempted to change my order since it has not dispatched.) However I guess with the Xeon needing a GPU the power costs are maybe more. I bet my GPU is using at least 10W on idle. Still I wonder if it's worth buying the Xeon.

One thing I did wonder about from reading this thread is OC-ing locked CPU's. Has anyone tried using Clockgen for locked CPU's and what was the result. It's an OC system that uses software, not BIOS, and it's quite successful. Occasionally you get syncing errors in games coz your game doesn't know the CPU is OC-d. I have a stock Acer PC with no OC BIOS and I had to find Clockgen. I wonder if it will push locked CPU's.

However You can use HPET as the system clock, which works properly even if the CPU is overclocked. To do that you should see if HPET is disabled in your bios and enable it. Google HPET to see what you have to do to get it to work.


Secondly though about PSU's. I know most GPU's come with a minimum PSU rating. However I think there is a lot of discrepancy there. Say the GTX660, 140W card, 450W min PSU. Yet when you do the maths. GPU+140W, CPU=88W (4770), Board and RAM, maybe 60W, HDD=10W ==== Total system 300W. The NVidia recommendation of 450W is for absolute extreme condition when you have billion HDD plugged in, and a thousand USB ports running.

To back this up, if you look at a pro-review of the GTX660, it has a noise, power, test. It will have stats for load power, and it will be about 290W. I know I have looked lots.

Why is it then that 99% of people say get a PSU way over the top? Like add about 100W on top of what Nvidia say.
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July 27, 2014 4:54:10 PM

With the power supply thing is because power supplies are not as efficient and as the label says may not put out the full amount and some do easily and some more than labeled but u don't want it to run at 100% all the time as it hurts its life span and can possibly take other components with it.
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